JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 They could have him unmounted with all those weapons easily enough haha. Kinda like Dissidia!Bartz in a way! Man I suddenly want Leif to be in Smash. His move potential is pretty crazy, now that I think about it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Kinda like Dissidia!Bartz in a way! Man I suddenly want Leif to be in Smash. His move potential is pretty crazy, now that I think about it lol Now that you mention it. It does sound like Dissidia Bartz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBrand Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Sakurai went to IS to ask. He wanted to put Leif in originally. But then he saw Roy's design and flame stuff, so he and IS agreed to put him in. Advertising was a 2nd thought So they added Roy in to contrast with Marth. Makes you wonder how Leif could have turned out huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 What? This makes no sense. Wanting Roy to stick out more, yet be a clone? This is completely contradictory. Sakurai was looking for a character that could be a clone of Marth but still stand out on his own. Roy's fire sword would probably would have made him more unique than Leif, who would probably have just been "Marth but faster and weaker" or "Marth but slower/stronger." Source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 So they added Roy in to contrast with Marth. Makes you wonder how Leif could have turned out huh? basically, a case of SAKURAI!!!!! before Brawl came out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Sakurai was looking for a character that could be a clone of Marth but still stand out on his own. Roy's fire sword would probably would have made him more unique than Leif, who would probably have just been "Marth but faster and weaker" or "Marth but slower/stronger." Source Oh, now I understand. I still think Ike is a much better idea though, simply because he ISN'T a clone and Sakurai doesn't want a bunch of clones anymore. You know, that guy loves changing his mind. xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy Kanzaki Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Personally, I really don't care what FE character gets in as long as it makes sense. Ike I would be fine with but it MIGHT not happen. Chrom/Lucina would be fine by me, and considering the FE13 craze, likely Robin would have the most moveset potential and likely because of FE13 Just my opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) Oh, now I understand. I still think Ike is a much better idea though, simply because he ISN'T a clone and Sakurai doesn't want a bunch of clones anymore. You know, that guy loves changing his mind. xP Mewtwo and Snake deconfirmed then Who says Roy has to stay a clone? Edited July 29, 2013 by shinpichu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Who says Roy has to stay a clone? Absolutely no one. I mean he has plenty to pull from in terms of his animation alone. He could have wide sweeps, distance flame attacks, Iaido, some regeneration of some kind via his sword [think Project M's Ivysaur's Synthesis] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Absolutely no one. I mean he has plenty to pull from in terms of his animation alone. He could have wide sweeps, distance flame attacks, Iaido, some regeneration of some kind via his sword [think Project M's Ivysaur's Synthesis] Shouldn't Marth be able to do the same thing then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Ike has more references in Awakening too, making him more important to FE than Roy. That's not true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Shouldn't Marth be able to do the same thing then? I suppose but it was only 10 HP to the Light Sword's full restore and SoS's 30 HP. But I doubt that would matter. I guess he could if they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) That's not true at all. It is true. Roy only gets DLC and Spotpass while Ike gets both of those, a descendant, Owain mentions, and a paralogue named after him. Edited July 29, 2013 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 It is true. Roy only gets DLC and Spotpass while Ike gets both of those, a descendant, Owain mentions, and a paralogue named after him. It doesn't mean Ike is more important to the FE series since he has more references than Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 It is true. Roy only gets DLC and Spotpass while Ike gets both of those, a descendant, Owain mention, and a paralogue named after him. None of those have anything to do with importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) It doesn't mean Ike is more important to the FE series since he has more references than Roy. I never meant that that was the ONLY reason Ike was more important. Ike has more titles than Roy as well and storywise, he's the strongest lord right now. Surely these count for something. Edited July 29, 2013 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 besides, an Owain mention should be worth -50 points anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I never meant that that was the ONLY reason Ike was more important. Ike has more titles than Roy as well and storywise, he's the strongest lord right now. Surely these count for something. Tellius has two games and Elibe has two games. Ike really doesn't have FE10 all to himself since he shares the spotlight with Micaiah, anyway. And where did it state that Ike was the strongest lord (in terms of unit utility or in general)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Roy wasn't really that relevant in FE7 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) I never meant that that was the ONLY reason Ike was more important. Ike has more titles than Roy as well and storywise, he's the strongest lord right now. Surely these count for something. @Reason number 1: Basically what ZM said, Ike has one game and shares another. @Reason number 2: 1. What are you basing this on? It's never been stated that Ike's the strongest, and there quite a few arguments against it. 2. This has nothing to do with importance. Edited July 29, 2013 by David the SecondWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Roy wasn't really that relevant in FE7 though That's true, but my point was mainly regarding the continents moreso than the characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I sort of feel that Ike is a bit more important simply because the Tellius titles are more widespread. FE6 wasn't officially released in the West, after all. Though honestly I don't really care for either, so whoever gets in isn't going to bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I don't think 'important' is the right word, however. I'd say Ike is more well-known based on the facts. I agree with you, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Old Hubba states in Awakening that Ike is the strongest and his strongest Einherjar card as well. Someone posted it in the General FE section. And Ike is a main character in two titles. Roy is only relevant in FE6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I see. Doesn't make Ike more important to FE, though. For both of those reasons. If anything, I'd consider ROY more important since it was because of him and Marth that we even got Fire Emblem localized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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