Refakitty³ Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 >_> I'm rolecop. Targeted Flurrie, hence my unexplained townread on her (I was honestly expecting scum would catch on to that and shoot me), and Suzaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 my gut is mafia rolecop here, because the Tibarn kill makes little sense unless the mafia were gunning for a role. And yeah, Szeth said MF was town, but made no attempt whatsoever to actually defend MF and get the lynch off. She just brushed the case off, which isn't going to convince anyone without a report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Joey: You're up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'm a neighbor with Suzaku. This is one of the reasons I was hesitant of him earlier in the game. It seems like neighbors usually benefit the mafia, as opposed to masons. ._.Szeth, how did you know that MF was town? Doesn't it only say "Vanilla" for the role? Couldn't that be a mafia vanilla? (Sorry, I'm a pretty new player.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Alrighty, I'm up then. I claim tracker. Tracked Joey N1 cause I was suspicious of him, saw him going no where. Tracked Szeth last night but my action failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 ... You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm not sold on Szeth's claim. Why target Suzaku? In a 5 person situation, it was almost certain that we were going to mass claim. If at that point, no one else claimed Neighbor, Suzaku would get straight up lynched. Something just doesn't fit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Eh I guess Tibarn must've targeted you N2. I'm a Vanilla. I think Joey made a decent point too; we don't know what Leknaat's role was, but Ovan and MF are flipped Vanillas. Add that to me being a vanilla as well, and Neighbour being a not very strong PR, a mafia Goon isn't so unlikely. Might have been a scumslip in knowing that a Goon doesn't exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I don't think mafia vanillas would be too outlandish since we've had a couple of vanilla flips ourselves. Also Tracker claim means a 1v1 between R2D2 and Szeth will happen. 2 info roles for town seems a bit op. Inclined to think Szeth is scum, due to reasons from yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Yeah, I agree with Suzaku on two info roles being unlikely for town. Szeth and Suzaku make an unlikely scumpair, as do R2D2 and Joey, making me think either R2D2/Suzaku or Joey/Szeth for the scumteam. Of the two info roles, I find Szeth's claim less likely to be town, due to her choice of targets, her half-hearted defence of MF despite what she believed to be a clear, the Tibarn nightkill, and just overall scumminess over the two days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refakitty³ Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 my gut is mafia rolecop here, because the Tibarn kill makes little sense unless the mafia were gunning for a role. And yeah, Szeth said MF was town, but made no attempt whatsoever to actually defend MF and get the lynch off. She just brushed the case off, which isn't going to convince anyone without a report. Question: do you think I should have claimed to save Flurrie? Considering that I was scummy too, so probably people would have just lynched one of us anyway, and then I'd probably be dead/killed/hooked/whatever, it didn't seem worthwhile. Szeth, how did you know that MF was town? Doesn't it only say "Vanilla" for the role? Couldn't that be a mafia vanilla? (Sorry, I'm a pretty new player.) Because lolmafiagoonsonSF. They just aren't common. ... You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm not sold on Szeth's claim. Why target Suzaku? In a 5 person situation, it was almost certain that we were going to mass claim. If at that point, no one else claimed Neighbor, Suzaku would get straight up lynched. Something just doesn't fit here. Just didn't think of it. It's not like this is EpicMafia where we've long decided that the proper way to play 9-person setups is to massclaim with 5 remaining players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 You didn't need to claim, but all you said was "I don't think Flurrie is scummy", iirc. You didn't really make an effort to diffuse the MF wagon. And I'm pretty sure we've always massclaimed in LYLO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 You didn't have to claim to try and save her. Just do something more than than "I don't think MF is scum and I don't see the case against him". What you did feels more like mafia defending town just before they flip for cred. They don't really want to stop the lynch, because then they don't get the cred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Just didn't think of it. It's not like this is EpicMafia where we've long decided that the proper way to play 9-person setups is to massclaim with 5 remaining players. Szeth, what was your rationale for checking Suzaku? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refakitty³ Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Szeth, what was your rationale for checking Suzaku? Thought scumteam might be fakeclaiming neighbors, since he looked scummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 In light of the fact that Tibarn was killed N2, I don't like the rolecop claim. Tibarn was being considered for the lynch, so I don't understand why he would get killed unless scum knew his role. I think it makes more sense that Szeth targeted MF & Tibarn, and fakeclaimed Suzaku, since that was the only other public PR. In terms of MF, Szeth made no attempt to defend him beyond “I think MF is town.” When Suzaku asked for a response to his MF scumread, all Szeth said was “I read it; what do you want me to say about it?” I feel like he was trying to get cred from a town gutvibe while making virtually no attempt to stop the lynch. I didn't like the rationale behind this. Question: do you think I should have claimed to save Flurrie? Considering that I was scummy too, so probably people would have just lynched one of us anyway, and then I'd probably be dead/killed/hooked/whatever, it didn't seem worthwhile. This was a cop-out. There were other ways to defend MF beside claiming outright. It was possible to break down Suzaku's read (like he did with the rest of Suzaku's post) without letting on to his PR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Well, for the mafia to have killed him N2, they would have to have inspected him N1. So I guess it's more likely that if Szeth is mafia, they didn't inspect MF at all, but Szeth was just trying to get towncred yesterday, and then fit that into the claim today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 sigh this feels like Volcanic LYLO Szeth, you've made your responses and stuff to why we feel you might be scum. Who do you think is likely to be scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Well, for the mafia to have killed him N2, they would have to have inspected him N1. So I guess it's more likely that if Szeth is mafia, they didn't inspect MF at all, but Szeth was just trying to get towncred yesterday, and then fit that into the claim today. And best durr goes to me >_> I was wondering how the results/nightkill order worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) V-V-V-Votals! No one voted yet 37 hours left I sure like haikus. Edited June 14, 2013 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Should we just finish this phase off now? There's really not a lot going on, and we've pretty much decided to lynch Szeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I wouldn't really mind; Szeth didn't post at all yesterday trying to defend herself, and I doubt she'll be here after today because ~weekend (it sure will be funny if Szeth isn't Kay) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Alright then. ##Vote: Szeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 ##Vote: Szeth. Elie's here I think so if R2D2 or Joey are here, we can get results soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 V-V-V-Votals! Szeth (2): Suzaku Kururugi, Silent Swordsman Lv? Voteless Trash: Szeth, R2D2, Joey Wheeler About 34.5 hours left Szeth is at L-1. With 5 alive, 3 hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 ##Vote:Szeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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