Djing Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Shouldn't Bow Knight or Sniper Chrom be the best support Chrom, since he gets Bowfaire, his only faire? I never see anybody suggest bow using Chrom for Apotheosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) A king does not bow for his subjects. Oh, wait, not fftf... Uh, Idunno, but bows kinda suck... =/ Edited July 26, 2013 by Vicious Sal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canto Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) It's probably because the pair-up bonuses for Sniper are kinda meh (as in, they don't help with SPD at all). Actually, Bow Knight's pair-ups don't look half-bad. Bows also have the advantage of being outside of the weapon triangle. Probably a setup like: Bow Knight!Chrom w/ Forged Brave Bows -Dual Strike+ -Dual Guard+ -Aggressor -Bowfaire -Limit Breaker Would work fine as a support unit, I would imagine. Edited July 26, 2013 by Canto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 The only sensible option of those two is Bow Knight; Sniper provides largely useless pair-up bonuses. And since BKs have two weapon types, he might actually benefit more from All Stats+2, if he's using his sword relatively often (which he migh for his only infinite weapon). You also have to consider that Paladin trades +4 Str for -1 skl/spd/mov, which could prove more effective depending on your playstyle. Lastly, Aggressor kind of makes up for his lack of a -faire, because it will probably push him over the edge for ensuring ORKOs, in which case the +5 from Bowfaire is wasted. I personally prefer Hit+20 to make his Falchion more reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 The only sensible option of those two is Bow Knight; Sniper provides largely useless pair-up bonuses. And since BKs have two weapon types, he might actually benefit more from All Stats+2, if he's using his sword relatively often (which he migh for his only infinite weapon). You also have to consider that Paladin trades +4 Str for -1 skl/spd/mov, which could prove more effective depending on your playstyle. Lastly, Aggressor kind of makes up for his lack of a -faire, because it will probably push him over the edge for ensuring ORKOs, in which case the +5 from Bowfaire is wasted. I personally prefer Hit+20 to make his Falchion more reliable. or you could, you know, run Bowfaire AND Aggressor, especially since Chrom is usually a support bot and would run something like Limit Breaker/Dual Guard+/Dual Attack+/Aggressor/Bowfaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Huh? The rest of that sentence detailed exactly why you might choose not to use both. It may not actually confer an actual change in efficiency of scoring kills, while another skill like Hit+20 might. OP was asking why Bowfaire wouldn't be used, and that's what I was responding to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 A king does not bow for his subjects. Oh, wait, not fftf... Uh, Idunno, but bows kinda suck... =/ Bows are pretty much the best weapon for a support to run in the postgame. No weapon triangle to kill hit rates and damage on the disadvantage and effective versus flying units, with stats otherwise equal to that of lances. Then again if you're willing to switch around weapons a lot for the support, having multiple weapon types is arguably better - you can always be at least neutral while attacking and get the advantage 2/3rds of the time. I think Aggressor Paladin Chrom has enough offence, IIRC. I guess you can switch Bowfaire in for Aggressor to be much better on enemy phases, that probably works. The rest of your skills probably want to be Dual Strike+ (100% reliable dual strikes are great to avoid awkward kill misses), Dual Guard+ (considerable durability buff, although unreliable), Charm (decent bonus for usually a lot of units makes it highly valuable on a support) and Limit Breaker (lolobvious). Hit +20 is also an option but less relevant thanks to never having WTD and great skill as a Bow Knight, and Aggressor might help get more reliable kills than Bowfaire, against some enemies? Depends on how many enemies survive him+his main's attack when he has Bowfaire I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) The most logical explanation is because peopke have canon class boner I mean go look around and mostly Chrom is reccomended to be GL, and rarely Paladin That being said BK 41 str Pal 43 str GL 44 str Take a look Full buff = 22(limit, rally, tonic) BK - 63 Pal - 65 GL + 66 Each using unforged Braves BK gets 80 atk Pal gets 77 atk GL gets 78 atk Slap agressor 90 - 87 - 88 Now let's test this offense against Anna 90 - 55 = 35(17) 87 - 55 = 32(16) 88 - 55 = 33(16) With their pair up bonus counted in here's their total damage output 72/76(bow knight) 76(Paladin) 68/72(Great Lord) Note that Bow ignores wta, while Lance does not One thing that is worth a note, Chrom has no business on the front, so I don't bother to calculate Aegis+ But still, simmilar offense >_> EDIT: I kinda want to calculate A support Sumia but later >_> Edited July 26, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I mean go look around and mostly Chrom is reccomended to be GL, and rarely Paladin I have never seen GL Chrom be recommended, and see Paladin Chrom all the time, and occasional GK Chrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I have never seen GL Chrom be recommended, and see Paladin Chrom all the time, and occasional GK Chrom. i dunno then I never see GK reccomended either because apparently Chrom lose to Hammer and Beastkiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Hmm... it could be that we're looking in different places? That said I don't see postgame Chrom talked about much, outside of having his secret sixth skill (Convoy) and the benefits of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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