Ether Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Eh, I mean, Trynd still does physical damage, even when he's AP, and Twitch/Sion is a decent amount of phys damage(since Sion built a hydra, which I assume came fairly early, it's not typically an item you build lategame) I... imagine that one of Lux/Xerath was support(even if neither built like one), and probably was not expected to output loads of damage. Did Nasus build wrong for the match? Certainly. But I can see the logic behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Unless that Nasus was literally not paying attention through the entire game/hellbent on split-pushing, minion count be damned, I'd assume Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage came first. That's why it looks so strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Fair. Could be just one of those types that makes an item set and builds the same thing every game regardless of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I did say in the post that it was "support" Xerath - so yeah Lux was mid, and got wrecked by the Yasuo, understandably. Was fun, though. We had all 3 waves pushing 2 super minions, and our Sion was there, punching their nexus. You know what happens when you kill a Sion. GG. Edited February 10, 2015 by Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interest Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Iceborn Gauntlet and Frozen Heart on Nasus, seems legit. ;/ (especially with the amount of AP on the opposing team) That's not as bad as it sounds, but I would much rather get a Trinity Force (that movement speed is pretty crucial). Unless that Nasus was literally not paying attention through the entire game/hellbent on split-pushing, minion count be damned, I'd assume Frozen Heart/Spirit Visage came first. That's why it looks so strange. He probably built FH first, or maybe even IBG. I actually get kind of sad if a Nasus builds IBG first, mostly because it's an attempt to mix survivability with DPS when you only really need survivability to win as Nasus in lane. Also, did anyone see the open letter to parents and stuff? Edited February 12, 2015 by Interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1962422256/30008778?tab=overview If you look at the match history, you'll see that the Nasus first completed his merc treads against me. First major item though was the frozen heart. Which I think was ok since Trynd's spin does physical damage anyway. Yet with my nashor's tooth already built, his armour didn't hold up well against its passive, and the extra AP brought by the NLrod soon after. On that note, before he even managed to get the FH, he'd lost lane pretty badly. Hell I took the top inner turret before 18 minutes. And that time he and Vi tried to dive under my tower to kill me when I'd already gotten my ultimate was pretty amusing. 2 for 1, worth. Edit: NEMESIS DRAFT IS UP. Edited February 12, 2015 by Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Should I be glad that, despite my long hiatus from them, that I can still win norms, or worried for how in the toilet my mmr is? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1727782667/48998164?tab=overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yesterday I played Lissandra for the first time, thanks to Nemesis mode. I beat the Sion in lane, and our jungling Nocturne just kinda killed everything, so we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siuloir Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Yesterday I played Lissandra for the first time, thanks to Nemesis mode. I beat the Sion in lane, and our jungling Nocturne just kinda killed everything, so we won. Sion really can't do anything to Liss. Super immobile tank versus a mage with a spammable slow, a blink and a snare. Who picks someone Lissandra for the other team in Nemesis mode, though? Liss is incredibly good (and has been for eons) and is very popular in the meta right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Sion really can't do anything to Liss. Super immobile tank versus a mage with a spammable slow, a blink and a snare. Who picks someone Lissandra for the other team in Nemesis mode, though? Liss is incredibly good (and has been for eons) and is very popular in the meta right now. People who subscribe to Bronzodia monthly, clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I've played 3 Nemesis Draft games so far - here's how they went (click them for match history if you want to view detailed info): Top Lissandra - vs Sion - 7/8/16 - Win Lane - Win Game Top Poppy - vs Soraka - 16/4/9 - Lose Lane - Win Game Top Vladimir - vs Sion - 9/13/11 - Lose Lane - Win Game Never played Vladimir before. Buuut after losing lane 0/5/1 against a Sion of all things, I started to go more tanky and started chunking the enemy Anivia's health. Poppy vs Soraka, the poke was real. But everyone should know how Poppy is after picking up a couple of core items. Pushing top lane, solo double kill. Killed two more as they came one by one to try and stop my splitpush. 4th guy Popped my GA. Killed by the 5th guy that came, but by then a team member arrived and finished the job. Hint: Never give Poppy to your enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 also do not give morde or zilean to them either like wtf these guys are good, just immobile they have damage for days and can bully you hard you know those 4v5 games where the other team gets both the carries really fed and annie has a 20 stack mejai and they can’t end and even though they get all your turrets and inhibs they can’t kill the nexus and so they bm in the fountain when the nexus has like 100 health and they talk shit all game and eventually you guys pull it together and outlast them and kill their nexus and it’s the most rewarding feeling ever after an hour long game man who gives a fuck about my kda not featured: we literally had zero dragons, they had 5, and like 2 or 3 barons http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1731304339/227266202?tab=builds&participant=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Zilean is immobile? I mean sure he has no dashes but his ability to move across the map is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 We kinda fucked up and ended up with no jungler, so it was Taric and I against Skarner in lane. Evelynn ganked for him 2-3 times, but it wasn't very successful, as you can see by the scores and the death map in the match history linked below. We were on their mid and top inhibitor turrets when they decided to surrender at 20. 7.2k gold lead. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1973471210/30008778?tab=overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Four and a half supports is legit (if my ARAM experience is any indication). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 yeah you really don't have to run a jungler in nemesis if you don't have anyone who's really good at it better to just go duo top and take a support item for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Also people seemed to severely underestimate AD Blitzcrank. The double physical damage on E is nothing to scoff at, and the AS boost from his W was helpful in wrecking towers just that bit faster, as well as its MS boost helping stick to fleeing enemies that much better. I love AD Blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateborn Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Also people seemed to severely underestimate AD Blitzcrank. The double physical damage on E is nothing to scoff at, and the AS boost from his W was helpful in wrecking towers just that bit faster, as well as its MS boost helping stick to fleeing enemies that much better. I love AD Blitz. AD blitz? Why not Crit Blitz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 E doesn't scale up the crit damage. So it's better to just go full AD and delete half a health bar with a single E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Also people seemed to severely underestimate AD Blitzcrank. The double physical damage on E is nothing to scoff at, and the AS boost from his W was helpful in wrecking towers just that bit faster, as well as its MS boost helping stick to fleeing enemies that much better. I love AD Blitz. Well he was originally designed as a bruiser so it makes sense he's not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Indeed. It's rarely seen though, sadly. Most people just build ap/cdr/tank, delete things with Q and R, and staying alive to cause disruption in teamfights. He's actually pretty versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Indeed. It's rarely seen though, sadly. Most people just build ap/cdr/tank, delete things with Q and R, and staying alive to cause disruption in teamfights. He's actually pretty versatile. well with lich bane he has a 2.5 ratio combo it's easier to burst someone than deal sustained damage and trying to survive with mana barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Lich Bane looks like it would work well on Blitz yeah. I didn't consider it, but then again the team needed an AD damage dealer so I was happy to go full damage/lifesteal, splitpush all day and kill things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 his E will apply lich bane so it makes it really strong it's why you usually get one of the sheen items depending on how you build him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 This is a Nemesis game I had on my "smurf" account (technically no longer a smurf) First time using the ice bird, was up against Vel'Koz mid http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1978445096/203699348?tab=overview 25k gold lead at the end there, woop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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