JSND Lame Turn Counts Lunatic First Run -

[commonguard]

He`s managing to get exp for the group he`s using which is good, but he`s using a lot of unpromoted units that aren`t fliers. C7 is a more or less an only-fly zone. And C8 I think will be a total pain. I think he can still low turn the map (mainly by way of Palla luring the generals elsewhere while everyone else just sneaks in, but lame-turning seems tough. Probably have to deal with generals (including the reinforcement generals) head on. He has almost no effective weaponry against the generals. And those things are basically walls, moving walls that hit really hard. I mean he has Caeda, but not Myrm or SM!Luke, and I don`t think he is really using Sirius (although he might be able to be a temp substitute). I was going to offer some advice and recommend forging an armourslayer to deal with the generals, but that isn`t necessarily a good option with only one C rank sword user.

Basically his choice of units (especially with regards to weapon ranks) are not optimal to handle the upcoming maps. I expect some very intricate shifting and use of choke points to fend of the reinforcement sandwich to save the day for C8.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Well, how to say it

I felt dirty after doing chapter 7 >_>

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

In a time where FE1 Playthrough is almost forgotten, and FE7 playlog did not get update after 2 Month....

Well, this one get a fourth one in span of 2 Days!

Warning: this chapter contains high dosage of butthurt and hype served in a Lame Turn Counts Manner. If you can't handle both, go to nearest FE doctor on a FE Hospital*

*Doctor and Hospital sold separately

[spoiler=Chapter 7 - Astram and the Gang]

I figure out my initial strategy won't work, so I decided to Resource Dump Arena for Cecille and promote her at level 18

Cav!Rody

Pirate!Draug

Sage!Ceccile

Cleric!Maliesia

Draco!Palla

Peg!Sheeda

Peg!Catria

Draco!Sirius

Archer!Ryan

Overview:

This is quite a fun map, being some sort of a treasure hunt map, where your movement are limited by the Hero Squad that we will see for awhile.

Limited move zones and tricky situations are what make this game's map design pretty interesting so to speak

Navvare and Feena joins!

As insulting as this sound, but I actually spent a lot of time resetting to rig crit

Which allows Navvare to take this crucial position at Turn 1

Which is the only way that my terrible strats making brain can cough up to finish this chapter while also getting the Angel Robe without resorting into fast completion

This will bait the Hunter, and the aggroing thief right beside him

This is why I need to promote Ceccile. Ceccile baits the Dragon, escaped and use a Vulnerary, and healed by Malliesia. Technically, I can simply go with Cleric Ceccile, but some.... secondary goals need the assistance of Sage!Ceccile. The Dragon is dead by Turn 4

For the Main portion of the map, Palla and Sirius + Navvare cleans up the Aggro Silver Sword Thief, Hunter, and then the Angel Robe Thief

Sheeda and Catria moves in

The next turn, the Royal Airforce x4 cleans up the rest of the map, netting every treasure except for the a Master Seal, which may or may not bit me in the ass, considering we get 2 more Seal 2 chapter later

Looking back, if I properly position Marth, I can pull off a 5 Turn Clear, but thats not what we're doing

Farm all the reinforcements!

Ryan OP

Look at that Hit Rate

He get doubled hory shiet

Time to Activate our Hax Strats

Palla did not really need the massive defense boost, but she takes something laughable like 5 - 7 Damage with it

BTW Palla critted one of the Heroes forcing her friend to get less exp.

RAGE

They will attack Palla again in a futile attempt to kill her, and thats when the team strikes back

I don't know why the AI is THIS dumb

Second Squad

My Rody is Ready

I forgot to take screenshot, but I actually have Caeda healed by Maliesia in this turn, and she is much closer to the main group

Anyway here's some old screenshots that is not actually used in the final run(hence the different positioning)

Astram is the Hero we need but not the one we deserves because the game like to kick our ass by not giving an A Sword Heroes with those kind of stats, not to mention Mercurius

In fairness, if I did not want to recruit everyone, he's definitely going down for early Merc

So long and thanks for the free EXP

- Stats

So we get:

A Promoted Unit with solid class versatility, but mainly a Sage(and Levin Sword to boot)

A Dancer

And Navvare

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 13.19 33 13 0 15 17 16 9 0 SW C

Rody CAV 14.33 32 15 0 15 15 15 17 0 SW E LC C

Palla(17) DRAC 5.51 35 22 1 21 21 12 20 3 LC A AX E

Catria PEGK 13.19 27 12 2 14 20 15 12 7 LC B

Sheeda PEGK 14.53 27 11 2 16 20 20 11 8 LC C

Ceccile(18)SAGE 2.41 36 6 15 18 21 17 3 9 TM D ST B

Ryan ARCH 15.69 31 13 0 15 15 9 15 0 BW B

Draug HUNT 12.88 28 15 0 10 16 5 6 0 BW D

Maliesia CLERIC 14.79 23 0 6 2 14 14 1 11 ST A

Sirius PALA 3.26 29 13 1 15 15 5 12 6 SW A LC B

Wendell SAGE 7.00 26 3 8 5 13 4 5 6 TM B ST D

Julian THIEF 6.27 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 SW E

Navvare MYRM 8.80 23 9 0 16 16 7 8 0 SW C

Ogma MERC 9.00 29 10 0 16 14 6 9 0 SW C

Yubello MAGE 1.06 18 0 1 1 6 5 3 3 TM D

Yumina CLERIC 3.67 16 0 2 2 8 9 2 5 ST C

Wrys CURATE 8.48 18 0 6 7 9 6 3 10 ST D

Arran SM 5.09 27 8 1 18 18 4 9 3 SW C

Matthis CAV 4.00 21 7 0 3 7 1 9 0 SW E LC D

Linde MAGE 4.20 20 0 4 5 8 8 2 4 TM D

Warren HUNT 2.77 22 7 0 5 8 1 4 0 BW D

Bord FIGH 3.60 23 11 0 8 7 1 5 0 AX C

Cord FIGH 2.55 22 9 0 7 8 5 5 0 AX E

Barst FIGH 5.58 26 12 0 10 11 6 7 0 AX C

Gordin ARCH 6.49 21 9 0 7 6 6 8 0 BW C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

Luke HUNT 7.32 BASE

Norne ARCH 5.10 BASE

Frey CAV 8.33 BASE

Samto MYRM 5.00 BASE

Caesar MERC 7.00 BASE

Radd MYRM 5.61 BASE

Rickard THIEF 7.61 27 8 0 14 13 5 8 0 SW C

BENCH Headband?

Ryan has officialy become the next THWOMP since Catria

BUT RYAN HE IS A CLASS! FOR SHAME

This guy is just the most awesome Pope ever

Typical Self Insert comments

Keep dreaming

Edited September 9, 2013 by JSND

[commonguard]

Astram is the Hero we need but not the one we deserves because the game like to kick our ass by not giving an A Sword Heroes with those kind of stats, not to mention Mercurius

Astram is failure. Of all the people who join with ``holy weapons`` or whatever he is definitely the worst. He will even try to kill Midia instead of auto-recruit himself if she is in his attack range in FE11. He is a confirmed woman beater and the complete opposite of a Hero.

Good job on managing to keep him alive for 30 turns.

Rody more DEF than SPD, would totally kick ass as a General in C8 if you had mixed sets, but I think he could do well as a DK too.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

34/15 durability is actually really high at this point

If he actually joined this early, he will downright become the MVP for the next chapter

....which is arguably the easiest chapter so far, so he is not really needed

Also there is no way Rody is becoming General, for obvious reason

Edited September 9, 2013 by JSND

[LeaderR Elliot]

You managed Astram heroes oh god...that palla... well gg chp 8 or I might say gg game?

EDIT: Dont kill Astram!

Edited September 10, 2013 by LeaderR Elliot

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

YIts actually possible to do it with Ceccile

Palla is crucial for the treasure hunt though

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

While the last chapter is hype, this one.... not so much

No Palla

No Promotion
Final Destination

And of course, Lame Turn Counts, because this is much longer than when I usually play this chapter

Okay, maybe some nostalgia for some players

[spoiler=Chapter 8 Aritian Conquest]

Actually its Aritian Nights

Before the chapter, I bought some heal staff and sold my Bullion S, neccesary for my Lame Turn strats for this chapter.

Hopefully it did not bit me in the ass!

Deployment:

Fighter!Draug

Peg!Sheeda

Peg!Catria

Draco!Sirius

Cleric!Malliesia

Sage!Ceccile

Sage!Wendell

Seriously?Feena

Archer!Ryan

Archer!Rody

....

WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAAAATTTTT

Okay, yes I admit I love having 3 Bow Users

Skorupio -> Sheeda

Tauros + Cancer -> Draug

Libra -> Ryan

See what I did thar

Strats: Turn 1 is nothing special

Sheeda and Sirius flies down, Ryan is put on the range of the Cavalier, while DOGA is on a fort, blowing his MIGHTY AXE to chop the Paladin

Turn 2, Sheeda with Scorpio murdered the Thief with Leo with Sirius help. Sheeda takes the Leo and throw her Wing Spear to the storage

The team intercept the Paladin assault, which is rather easy when you have that many units

Sheeda killed the Mage Reinforcement and dodged, which is pretty fun

Turn 3 - 5 is basically defending against the initial Cavalier reinforcement squad

Wendell with Crest can tank 1 hit from them, which is surprisingly a bro achievement in its own right

I baited Roger at turn 4 with Ryan(which takes 4 - 5 damage from him) and recruited him with Sheeda

[spoiler=Queen of the Skies vs Lame Knight #4051]

Disclaimer: This screenshot is not used in the actual playthrough

JOIN ME OR I STRIKE YOU WITH MY WING SPEAR

THAT IS IN THE STORAGE

Lesson of the day:

Don't mess with Sheeda the Goddess

Starting from Turn 6 and above, its where this chapter ends, basically

DOGA WITH HIS INTIMIDATING TAUROS SHARD SHALL CHOKE THE POINT WITH HIS TRADEMARK DOGA CATSTROPHE SMASHING THE FOOLISH GENERAL INTO SUBMISSION WITH HIS DOGA FIRE AND BURN THEM WITH DOGA INFERNO

Ceccile's healing capability is JUST ENOUGH to put them into safe zone. I switch the tanker with Roger, Wendell(he can do it for 1 go), Sirius, Catria, Marth, and Cain when neccesary

Cain's C Sword Rank is enough for 16 Damage Armorslayer, which..... might be a misplay on my part in a hindsight since Cain MIGHT not be used in the future

Its actually pretty sad, IIRC Base!Wendell can take 3 shot as a general, so imagine the look on their face when Ceccile healed Wendell*

And, including the last chapter, Astram's squad

1. Fooled by the Royal Airforce and did not even manage to gang up on Palla

2. A shooting target for Ryan and Rody

3. Is made to look like an idiot by Sirius

Thats sad, no matter how you cut it

Its worth a note that the Longbow Sniper did not bother to attack Sheeda even if this happened

DOGA tanked one of them, and I used the Savepoints to rig Marth level

Now for Marth conquest

[spoiler=This, is why he is known as the Hero King]

Marth: Hey, loser that I recruited on a random Village several years ago, what are you doing chillin on a fort when those equally failure generals tried to kill me?

Marth: My hand would be so dirty from killing a miserable pile of crap such as you, consider yourself lucky

Marth: Also, Gordin sucks, ergo You, my friend is a FAILURE. You did not deserve to hold the throne

Jeorge: Please forgive me, now what is your order

Marth: Give me your Parthia, and go to kitchen. Also use that save point

After using the save point....

Cain gets level 14!

You know, this chapter is simmilar to Battle of Chang Ban in a lot of ways

It involve a chokepoint in form of a bridge which is guarded by an extremely powerful giant dude who'se Axe Lance swings are enough to blow 10 Generals Soldiers away, and they have the ability to fly and lift ten men with one finger. It also involve the protagonist escaping from the place.

Of course, Marth is way more awesome than Liu Bei(who have never been Top Tier, if I remember correctly) and Cain specializes in Swords, not Lance like Zhao Yun

My headcanon says that during this chapter Draug shows MU why exactly he is capable of lifting ten men with one fighter

Mission complete

*In my previous update, I noted how useful Astram would be if he joined one chapter before this. General!Astram have 38 HP, 23 Defense and 9 Speed. At 6 - 7 damage, he gets 5 - 7 HKOed by the Knight below, which make this chapter even easier, and he also take 5HKO with Scorpio Shard

But this game and its previous incarnation was made before IS made the abomination that is FE13 gameplay, so obviously this is not going to happen

Eh, yeah im bored and want to talk about that >_>

Before the stats update, I definitely need an Archer with good movement for the next chapter.....

Its Morphing Time!

Ryan so awesome hory shiet

- Stats Update

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 14.25 33 13 0 16 18 17 10 0 SW C

Rody CAV 17.18 34 16 0 18 17 17 18 1 SW D LC C

Palla(17) DRAC 5.51 35 22 1 21 21 12 20 3 LC A AX E

Catria PEGK 14.19 28 13 2 15 20 15 12 7 LC B

Sheeda PEGK 15.83 28 11 2 16 20 20 11 8 LC B

Ceccile(18)SAGE 4.40 38 8 15 19 22 17 3 10 TM C ST B

Ryan(18) SNIP 1.00 42 17 1 21 22 10 19 3 BW A

Draug HUNT 18.02 33 19 0 15 20 7 10 0 BW D

Maliesia CLERIC 16.82 24 0 8 3 16 16 1 11 ST A

Sirius PALA 3.67 29 13 1 15 15 5 12 6 SW A LC B

Cain CAV 14.00 31 14 0 13 12 8 12 0 SW C LC D

Wendell SAGE 8.75 26 3 8 6 13 5 5 6 TM B ST D

Feena DANCER 8.18 19 8 0 7 19 3 6 0 SW E

Jeorge SNIP 5.00 32 12 1 14 14 5 13 3 BW A

Julian THIEF 6.27 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 SW E

Navvare MYRM 8.80 23 9 0 16 16 7 8 0 SW C

Ogma MERC 9.00 29 10 0 16 14 6 9 0 SW C

Yubello MAGE 1.06 18 0 1 1 6 5 3 3 TM D

Yumina CLERIC 3.67 16 0 2 2 8 9 2 5 ST C

Wrys CURATE 8.48 18 0 6 7 9 6 3 10 ST D

Arran SM 5.09 27 8 1 18 18 4 9 3 SW C

Matthis CAV 4.00 21 7 0 3 7 1 9 0 SW E LC D

Linde MAGE 4.20 20 0 4 5 8 8 2 4 TM D

Warren HUNT 2.77 22 7 0 5 8 1 4 0 BW D

Bord FIGH 3.60 23 11 0 8 7 1 5 0 AX C

Cord FIGH 2.55 22 9 0 7 8 5 5 0 AX E

Barst FIGH 5.58 26 12 0 10 11 6 7 0 AX C

Gordin ARCH 6.49 21 9 0 7 6 6 8 0 BW C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

Bantu MANA 3.00 BASE

Roger KNIGHT 8.00 BASE

Castor HUNT 7.32 BASE

Norne ARCH 5.10 BASE

Frey CAV 8.33 BASE

Samto MYRM 5.00 BASE

Caesar MERC 7.00 BASE

Radd MYRM 5.61 BASE

Rickard THIEF 3.00 BASE

BENCH Headband?

Desert chapters, my body is ready

The Hero King's Love is for his People or

Yuusha Ou no Ai wa Tami no Tame ni if you are feeling a bit weeb

MU did not get enough Shin Level

MU: When am I going to be as awesome as you are

Wendell: Never

Edited September 11, 2013 by JSND

[commonguard]

Feena in LTC?

Did you get the Leo shard? Was no screenshot, unless I am blind.

Is Palla dropped permanently or just temporarily?

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

"Turn 2, Sheeda with Scorpio murdered the Thief with Leo with Sirius help. Sheeda takes the Leo and throw her Wing Spear to the storage"

"Is Palla dropped permanently or just temporarily?"

Temporary, because I feel like it for this one

"Feena in LTC?"

Dancer is useful regardless of playstyle

The ability to reach certain places or key units moving twice is extremely helpful, something that is shown in my CH. 9 Strategy(nearly done, but im not the type who like 2 update in a day)

In fact, doing this and the next chapter without Feena in slow playthrough would be HARDER than without Palla because whatever Palla do can be replicated to some extent with Sheeda and Catria

Although for this chapter, she can be replicated by Wendell and/or Arran in mixed class set using my questionable strats >_>

Edited September 11, 2013 by JSND

[PKL]

Dat Doga and dat Ryan.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Next update would be tommorow or Today if I did not procrastinate because I'm questioning the morality beetwen Vulnerary and 72 EXP >_>

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

We're approaching the best part of the game

[spoiler=Chapter 9 Holy Goddess of Palla, I kneel before your Speed, Broken and Sorrowful by what RNG have done, Kyrie Elieson, Kyrie Elieson, Kyrie Elieson, I pray. By the way, spoiler alert]

Deployment:

Peg!Sheeda

Peg!Catria

Draco!Palla

Sniper!Sirius

Sniper!Ryan

Sage!Ceccile

Cleric!Malliesia

Cavalier!Rody

Hunter!Draug

Julian

Julian deployment is a mistake okay >_>

Surprisingly simple chapter. What is this with the influx of simple chapters lately?

....playing it lame is a factor for sure

Turn 1:

Move Rody and Julian to the right and chase the thief(Rody) or the chest(Julian)

Malliesia follow them just to move her to safe spot to use Physic

I have 2 shot to kill this thief, but better do it ASAP

Bait the Dracoknight here

And move Ryan to the house to manipulate the AI Dracoknight placement

Turn 2:

Draug with Steel Bow Forge does 43 Damage, just enough to kill a DK!

Super baricade activate!

Turn 3:

Pro

Basically clean up, but it is important to disarm these two

I placed Palla on a range of a mage, but the mage decided to ignore her, so.... yeah misplay again

Turn 4:

Marth dodge. Mind you, its pretty easy to adapt the strats even if Marth does not dodge

[spoiler=Kyrie Elieson]

Silly Elieson, Marth's only ambition is to marry Sheeda

And get a pants

Not sure if I will use him because I plan to use Merric to give Marth 5% chance to crit, and I have 2 Staffbots but we'll see!

Clean up duty, and time to set up the next part of the chapter!

Yes, the hilarious group known as Astram Pursuit Squad! After losing twice, third time's the charm right?

This is the time when I realize how pointless Julian really is

For the next turns, the group escaped as far as they can from the starting spot to intercept Astram who appeared on Turn 7 EP

Turn 6:

I want Minerva, screw you

For the 2 Dracoknight near the boss, bait and switch and snipe them with Bow

Turn 7:

This is it

[spoiler=Final Showdown!]

....derp. That's sooooo anti-climatic

Move Marth to recruit Minerva

Unlucky Number...

[spoiler=MINERVAAAAAAA]

We need your Axe Rank and Lance Rank for the Dragon chapters!

I think this all but confirms that Michalis survival is not canon because this game does not have a Rescue feature!

The bad: Michalis have a measly 2 LCK!

By the way, spoiler inside a spoiler alert

You get the idea. Basically, put a distraction for the Swarmer.

After the first one is dead, its basically over because of the blind spot

I manage to use Arena three time thanks to the savepoint

1 Arena use + 1 Iron Lance Chip + Boss Kill = a level for Minerva

Which bring us to....

YES!

Don't blame me, its hard to lame-ify the next few chapters

Stats will be delayed until my next two update, which is short and I have taken the screenshot!

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Whoops, I have too much boner seeing chapter 11

Update time

[spoiler=10 - Elearan pay his rent]

BEST CITY

The first one have Excalibur, the other one have Thoron. They rent it from me

Those meddling kids!

Its Wendell time!

Deployment:

Draco!Minerva

Peg!Sheeda

Peg!Catria

Draco!Wendell

Sniper!Sirius

Cav!Rody

Sniper!Ryan

Sage!Ceccile
Feena

Sheeda take the Scorpio Shard, and.... most of the STR increase shard because I need to feed her EXP!

Anyway....

Sweet

Use Physic on her

Ryan kill the Merc

DRACOKNIGHT!Wendell trades Sheeda a Silver Lance and chips the Merc for Ryan

Kill all of the Anti Fliers, and Dance Sheeda to the Sniper

Save dem 33 use nuke

[spoiler=popeslap.JPG]

100 popeslap later....

That must hurt....

ONLY THE GREAT WENDELL IS WORTHY OF EXCALIBUR!

Not many interesting stuff. Julian and Marth get all the treasure, feed some kills to Rody

1 Panel short RAGE

Yay Silver Card!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

GODDESS JUDGMENT ALL THOSE CLERIC WITH SHEEDA FOR 72 EXP

Seize: Turn 21

No, my money!

Even if we should pay, this is actually dirt cheap considering she come with Levin and Lady Sword, and Dice with Devil and Hand Axe

I knew it, the Assassin is actually Shin!

[spoiler=10x - Curse you Horace!]

Man, Roro sucks

Before the chapter, I used Base Arena to get 30 EXP for Sheeda and promote her

Paladin!Sheeda

Swordmaster!Palla

Sniper!Minerva

Cav!Catria

Cav!Rody

Feena

Real Roro detected

Anyway, Scorpio!Sheeda has 25 Speed, so she can double Roro

Another chapter that is hard to prolong

Turn 1:

Palla goes to the left Roro and chips him for Rody

Sheeda goes to 1 Panel below the Middle left Roro and wait

The rest of the team made a baricade for Feena

Move Horace 1 panel to the left/right

Turn 2:

Feed some kill to Rody so that he get a level after bosskilling

I am so glad that General have D Bows in this game

2 Turn Clear. Level 19, and its time for Rody to promote!

Now the only unit from the main team who have not been promoted was Doga and Catria

[spoiler=Stats Update]

The stats is now cleaned up by only writing up non benched unit and new units

Enjoy

Main Team

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 15.87 34 14 0 17 19 17 11 0 SW C

Rody(19) CAV 1.00 40 19 1 23 20 18 21 7 SW D LC B

Palla(17) DRAC 7.02 37 24 1 23 22 12 22 3 LC A AX E

Catria PEGK 15.05 29 14 2 16 20 16 12 7 LC B

Sheeda(20) DRAC 1.21 36 16 1 20 23 20 18 5 LC A AX E

Ceccile(18)SAGE 5.85 38 8 16 20 23 17 3 11 TM C ST B

Ryan(18) SNIP 3.06 44 18 1 23 23 10 20 3 BW A

Draug HUNT 19.92 34 20 0 15 20 8 11 0 BW D

Maliesia CLERIC 17.54 25 0 8 3 17 16 2 11 ST A

Sirius PALA 3.67 29 13 1 15 15 5 12 6 SW A LC B

Wendell SAGE 8.75 26 3 8 6 13 5 5 6 TM B ST D

Feena DANCER 12.42 22 10 0 9 22 17 6 0 SW E

Julian THIEF 6.27 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 SW E

New Unit:

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

Etzel SORC 6.90 30 2 11 14 12 8 10 12 TM B ST D

Elearan MAGE 10.00 26 1 8 5 11 2 8 3 TM C

Merric MAGE 11.71 33 14 1 12 16 12 17 3 TM D

Minerva DRAC 5.38 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 LC C AX A

Dice FIGH 12.00 32 15 0 7 11 6 8 0 AX C

Maris MYRM 10.00 25 9 0 12 16 9 10 0 SW C

Horace GENE 3.10 34 15 1 11 10 7 17 3 LC B BW D

Of course we're going to see a lot of Minerva!

[Espinosa]

The turn count for 10x isn't lame enough. Re-do it!

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

I already saved it over rage

[PKL]

You could've lamed it with Swordmasters. I reckon your Palla, your Ryan and someone else could choke the point at the beginning for like, forever.

EDIT: You LTC'd a map. Run's over for me ;_;

Edited September 14, 2013 by PKL

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

They actually get overrun by turn 3 >_>

Okay not them but at least one of them

Also Horace >_>

[PKL]

They actually get overrun by turn 3 >_>

Okay not them but at least one of them

Also Horace >_>

Correct me if im wrong but:

wouldnt the normal Legions have like 120 hit total? IIRC, they have like 16 skl in that map. 18 being the best and only the top Legions have 18 skl.

That means like, Swordmaster Ryan vs them would be:

-15 hit due to Weapon Rank Bonus loss

-10 hit because of C Swords vs Axes

+10 avo because user is a Swordmaster

+26 avo from Ryan's spd

+5 (? i dont remember his lck) avo due to ryan's Luck

+10 from Marth Support

+10 from Rody Support

He would be facing like 34 hit. Palla would be a lot worse at dodging though. But I reckon a Swordmaster Catria with Palla and Marth support could do the same as Ryan and face bad hitrates. Idk, it seems possible to just wall them but it would be extremely tricky. Maybe if your Ryan had less def than your other Swordmaster Wallers it would be possible as he could lure them to him, ORKO some of them while the others just take one hit only if they cant reach him. But that doesnt seem to be the case. A promoted Swordmaster Caeda would do well too I think. Idk, you shouldnt have saved so you could experiment with this ;_; I wanted a lame Turncount Ch10x as Ive never seen it get stalled.

[LeaderR Elliot]

I think overrun means more than what you can kill on player phase spawns.

Also later they spawn with forged tomahawkies

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Actually, Palla, and Sheeda have around 40 - 50 dodge vs the Zerker when they spawn with Devil Axe

And you know, DSFE RNG is kinda stoopid, so usually by turn 2, one of Palla, Sheeda, or Ryan is dead

Also the reason why I did not try beyond like 3 - 4 turn and settle with that is because I feel my team is kinda overlevelled

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Wow, I actually found some interesting stuff

Don't worry, I will post soon

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

This test will not be included in the continuity.... which you will see why after you read the full log

This will be one big update for sure

[spoiler=Basic strategy]

What I realized after my run is the fact that Roro will spawn with Devil Axe instead of Hammer, which allows this strategy to work

Dance Horace, and Choke the point

Sheeda, and Palla will take 31 Damage, so Turn 1 Mend on Sheeda is neccesary and Hammertime should be killed ASAP

THWOMPS have the best chance to survive this map. Sniper is too risky because they take more damage, and need more micromanagements. My real first test was Triple Sniper, and a critblicked Palla is stomped

What I noticed in my first test is the fact that all of my units is prone to being crit blicked, especially Palla(who lacks Catria) and Ryan(I forgot if he support Cecil/Marth or not but he has abysmal Luck of 10)

Therefore I decided to use instant Promoted 18!Rody and use him as a Sniper. Rody, with his massive 19 Luck IIRC and A Ceccile is capable of having 0% Crit Rates. Palla and Sheeda faces 5 and 3 respectively

Equipment wise, Palla get Luck and Speed Shard, Rody get the STR and Mag and Leo shard. Palla ate Speedwings so she can double 17 SPD Roro

I sold Bullion S to buy some Heal Staff and Iron Bow and feed Angel Robe to Rody

[spoiler=First Test with Ryan resulted in a failure]

This test ended in failure after I forgot to heal for some turns

What I discovered was:

Elliot mentioned how Roro spawns with Tomahawk. Turns out they will recycle that damn Hammer, just when I thought I am free from that thing

This test last long enough to find out the last, and of course, the most interesting part of this which will be covered on the third test

[spoiler=Second Test to see their spawn method]

If you have been following this run, you will notice that this is not the first time I tried Wallblocking. In my chapter 8, I wallblocks with Ryan and Rody and noticed how the AI did not try to micromanage their unit to attack with Ranged Weapon even when they can't

Which.... is the basis of this test

In this test, I did not bother to kill Roro, so they commit sudoku with Devil Axe

And its slow, but by Turn 18 they started to spawn 5 Roro from 4 Max Roro, all with Devil Axe

Pay attention to the TC and compare with the first test. In this version, they are still wielding Devil Axe, while in the previous test, Roro have started to spawn with Hammer and Poleaxe earlier than this

However, they did not get past 5 Roro on the bottom side

Which means Roro's spawn engine is based off the number of Roro that you killed.

I have not researched HOW MANY Roro to kill until the next phase started though

Finally, we move out to the last test

[spoiler=The Real Secret of this chapter]

By manipulating the enemy composition, I need to get them to have Poleax Roro to attack first before everyone else. Which is what I done here

They started to spawn 5 Roro THIS early when I actively killed them

6 Roro.....

9 Roro and.... 2 Tomahawk

11 Roro spawns with 2 Tomahawk

14 Roro and.... 4 Tomahawk

14 Roro and.... I don't give a fuck again how many Tomahawk it have

I killed a lot last turn, which is why the number did not increase

19 Roro.... and it started to get real crazy

Lol. They started to spawn in +4 Roro per turn

Yeah, I don't give a fuck anymore

Sheeda's side was unable to get rid of 1 Tomahawk Roro so that I can make the healing micromanagement easier. They will spawn a Tomahawk Roro right in the place, or move someone with Tomahawk there if they are killed on Enemy phase

Time to disarm and see how much Roro till it stops

Yeah that's the maximum amount of Roro, reached by like Turn 36 because I keep killing one of them. I won't even bother to explain why Lame Turn Counting this chapter is impossible, or near impossible because I can rig crit during the non crazy phase and use a Paladin to rush or something

BTW the final phase is 4 Roro per turn, each wielding Devil Axe, Hammer, Poleax(e), and Tomahawk, all forged

Whelp someone, update the enemy data

If I have the time, I'll try to see if there is a limit to this madness

[spoiler=End Result]

Terribru stats growth

Read above

Somehow, his gains are good

Thwombo Combo

Hory shiet, 27 Defense!

Morale of the story: Remember guys, too much Roro is bad for your health

And especially your turncounts

Enjoy!

I don't

Edited September 15, 2013 by JSND

[PKL]

Lol, so as I suspected, the Legions never end.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Eleventh failed try at Chapter 11.... and counting

Why is this chapter so unfair