XeKr Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 bros, we're talking about a game series where the original main lord wore a skirt and a tiara. Dem legs. So scandalous. Okay, now back your regularly scheduled fan-raging segment of "stop-liking-what-I-don't-like" followed by "that's-like-your-opinion-man". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 to get offended as if female sexualization hasn't been an integral part of human culture since the dawn of time is pretty pointless So we should just accept it and not say anything? Because I can think of a lot of practices that have been a part of human culture that today's people find repulsive. Or should we continue those too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XeKr Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well, you're welcome to complain. But don't be surprised that if you do so incessantly on a (niche) fan forum, you'll rub a few people the wrong way. Moreover, this is something that's not likely to ever change. Fanservice is so named for a reason. I also agree with those who say it's mild in this game. It's almost like complaining anime is the cancer killing FE when...wait Awakening saved FE. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 So we should just accept it and not say anything? why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Well, you're welcome to complain. But don't be surprised that if you do so incessantly on a (niche) fan forum, you'll rub a few people the wrong way. Moreover, this is something that's not likely to ever change. Fanservice is so named for a reason. I also agree with those who say it's mild in this game. It's almost like complaining anime is the cancer killing FE when...wait Awakening saved FE. >_> What Edited September 28, 2013 by Ranger Jack Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 About the Male vs Femae outfits.Who is more scandalous ? This girl : or this guy ? : This guy ? : Or this girl ? : This guy ? or this girl ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquakat Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 About the Male vs Femae outfits. Who is more scandalous ? This girl : or this guy ? : This guy ? : Or this girl ? : This guy ? or this girl ? Wanting to note that you're quoting/comparing a game known for having possibly the most sensible outfits for most if not all their chars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Wanting to note that you're quoting/comparing a game known for having possibly the most sensible outfits for most if not all their chars. I know that... Even Lara is pretty good compared to others dancers. Still, Ricken have a far more sensible outfit than Asvel, I think we can all agree on that. And he is supposed to be the shota bait... Anyway... On dancers. FE4 dancer probably have the worst dancer outfit (Though Lalum's transparent pants worries me a little), but Olivia is the most sexualzed in her official artworks Here's Sylvia : Leen : and Laylea once again : The main difference is the colour of her outfit actually. Edited September 28, 2013 by TendaSlimeKnight Ikkar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The problem with those dancers are, well, they are freaking dancer, and I need to note that 3/4 out of FE4 Dancer is canonically almost a prostitute ....Not to mention that outside the game, you can't see their full body image anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 why not um, because humans do some pretty horrible shit to each other and we should try to do better than our predecessors. Just because women have historically been the primary target of objectification does not mean that it is a good thing. In fact it's pretty detrimental to both genders, because it reinforces stereotypes, which leads to prejudice and dehumanization -- the main ingredients in the do-horrible-shit-to-each-other recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Imagine if Olivia acted the way Sylvia did. Instant hilarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 About the Male vs Femae outfits. Who is more scandalous ? This girl : or this guy ? : This guy ? : Or this girl ? : This guy ? or this girl ? The girls. HOW DARE THEY SHOW THEIR SHINS OF SIN! It's outright DISGUSTING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 um, because humans do some pretty horrible shit to each other and we should try to do better than our predecessors. Just because women have historically been the primary target of objectification does not mean that it is a good thing. In fact it's pretty detrimental to both genders, because it reinforces stereotypes, which leads to prejudice and dehumanization -- the main ingredients in the do-horrible-shit-to-each-other recipe. the sexualization of the female has historically been pretty important for the survival of our species even now when most of the first world is on the cusp of a population implosion due to declining fertility sexualization is important not to mention, most people on this thread complaining about the sexualization aren't complaining about sexualization itself as a concept rather than the fact that they think FE13's sexualization wasn't very sexy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Sex is important for survival of our species; sexy media not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) What Nessie said. And if anything, the population is going to explode in coming years because technology advances will continue to make treating diseases and stuff easier, thus extending people's lifespans. Edited September 28, 2013 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 What are even talking about now? Talk about topic derailment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 What Nessie said. And if anything, the population is going to explode in coming years because technology advances will continue to make treating diseases and stuff easier, thus extending people's lifespans. wrong, that already happened, hence the population explosion that started in the 1850s and really took off around the mid 20th century the population will grow based on the momentum of previous generations but as more and more nations reach the final part of the fertility and mortality transition and we start to see 1.1 fertility rates in places like Taiwan and Italy and other nations the population will eventually plateau and decline and as for the claims about sexy media, I give you this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I know that... Even Lara is pretty good compared to others dancers. Still, Ricken have a far more sensible outfit than Asvel, I think we can all agree on that. And he is supposed to be the shota bait... Anyway... On dancers. FE4 dancer probably have the worst dancer outfit (Though Lalum's transparent pants worries me a little), but Olivia is the most sexualzed in her official artworks Here's Sylvia : Leen : and Laylea once again : The main difference is the colour of her outfit actually. You're not using the TCG arts. Which are also official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Imagine if Olivia acted the way Sylvia did. Instant hilarity. Just leaving this here: Olivia would obviously be showing off her "theater" moves. Edited September 28, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 even now when most of the first world is on the cusp of a population implosion due to declining fertility sexualization is important [Venus of Willendorf.jpg] I wrote my previous post in the present tense, not the past tense. It wouldn't surprise me if the Venus of Willendorf helped propagate the population of the time by promoting female traits that were suited for the ice-age-like conditions of the time and place. But for everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven. There is no reason to think that sexy media in modern first-world countries is vital (though perhaps it can be fun, depending on whom you ask). One suspects that the impending first-world population implosion is due more to general economic malaise and the high costs of child-bearing rather than inadequate sexualization (just look at Japan, for example; one of the most sexed-up countries in the world, yet its fertility rate was 1.39 in 2011). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 One suspects that the impending first-world population implosion is due more to general economic malaise and the high costs of child-bearing rather than inadequate sexualization (just look at Japan, for example; one of the most sexed-up countries in the world, yet its fertility rate was 1.39 in 2011). Yes, that's the cause, but getting rid of hypersex in the media wouldn't help any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I don't think anyone is arguing that removing media hypersex will directly mitigate the population implosion. Maybe it can indirectly mitigate it, I don't know, but I don't think it's worth discussing here when none of us are empirical social scientists. Edited September 28, 2013 by Nessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Just leaving this here: Olivia would obviously be showing off her "theater" moves. Best part: Sylvia is like...14 years old or such. :v Edited September 28, 2013 by NoNameAtAll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Fire Emblem has always had it's designs be stylized rather than be what soldiers actually dress and groom like. For example, there's how not all of the women their hair or wear pants. Edited September 28, 2013 by The Void Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blademaster! Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 And Maribelle's character is not new at all. Who else in the series is like Maribelle? The closest I can think of is Levin. Also, I don't really recall Myrrh being all that mature, but I only really remember her support with Ephraim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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