AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm trying to use Dedenne competitively, but I need help in order to do that. I have tested and can confirm that Cheek pouch restores 33% hp when using a berry, so combined with Sitrus Berry that would be 58% hp gain. And Dedenne has Parabolic charge, making healing even better. But the thing is, Dedenne is pretty fragile, so this set might not work. This is the set I was originally going to go with: Nature: Timid Evs: 252 speed, 252 sp attack, 4 hp Item: Sitrus Berry Ability: Cheek Pouch Moves:Charge Parabolic Charge Grass knot Something else Can somebody help me with a moveset for Dedenne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 trying to use Dedenne? maybe Tbolt/Volt Switch/Nuzzle/Grass Knot with 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed and Life Orb? (lol this thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I wanted to try to use its cheek pouch and try to make a healing dedenne, maybe substitute with 252hp/252 speed or 252 speed/252 sp attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 ....have you seen its defenses (ok fine, not much worse than its offense, but still) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/702.shtml There's its stats and moves and stuff. I admit, it has low defenses, but what about Sub, Swagger, Parabolic Charge, and Grass Knot? Or toxic instead of swagger, either one, but that would be decent at least. With 252 hp/sp attack and 252 speed evs, it would be decent against the right pokemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksorus Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlxaWFDCDUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 ^best use of Dedenne right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlxaWFDCDUE Lmao but what did that have to do with making a Dedenne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lmao but what did that have to do with making a Dedenne every turn that passes by, the Pokemon on the field can take a break and laugh at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Teach it Nuzzle to paralyze and outspeed Luvdisc in the rain. A strong stab Thunderbolt will KO any Delibird that dares to stand in your way. Parabolic Charge will recover from a Choice Specs Hidden Power assault from Unown. And U-turn or Volt Switch to bail out after getting Teeter Danced by Spinda. Use these moves and you will achieve greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Teach it Nuzzle to paralyze and outspeed Luvdisc in the rain. A strong stab Thunderbolt will KO any Delibird that dares to stand in your way. Parabolic Charge will recover from a Choice Specs Hidden Power assault from Unown. And U-turn or Volt Switch to bail out after getting Teeter Danced by Spinda. Use these moves and you will achieve greatness. Are you trying to say Dedenne sucks? Because it looks like you are naming "challenging" opponents for Dedenne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are you trying to say Dedenne sucks? Because it looks like you are naming "challenging" opponents for Dedenne. it's obviously a sarcastic jab at Dedenne being terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 it's obviously a sarcastic jab at Dedenne being terrible But it's not that terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 But it's not that terrible ....yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 It's also physically bulkier than Raichu so I recommend Baton Passing Iron Defense to capitalize on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 ....yes it is No it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No it's not yes it is It's also physically bulkier than Raichu so I recommend Baton Passing Iron Defense to capitalize on that. wait having it pass Iron Defense to something else or vice versa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 But it's not that terrible someone's in denial anyway we don't know its egg moves yet (since it probably has egg moves) but its current movepool is nothing special and cheek pouch is pretty useless. 58% healing is inconsequential on a pokemon with 67/57/67 defenses that's neutral or weak to 12 types. don't even bother going defensive. parabolic charge is also really weak. if it gets encore as an egg move, that's a must-have on any set. it's still outclassed by emolga, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You certainly have your work cut out for you. Why are you wanting to use Dedenne? If it's because you like the Pokemon, then do a Choice Specs set with Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Grass Knot and Hidden Power Ice. This gives you optimum special attacking performance on a Pokemon that needs all the offensive help it can get. If it's because you think it'd good, then... I can almost guarantee that there is something out there that can do it better. Physically offensive sets would be outclassed by Electivire, Zebstrika and Luxray, while specially offensive sets are outclassed by pretty much every other electric type out there, except for Pachirisu who at least has Super Fang. Defensive sets, like your Cheek Pouch set, are outclassed by the more defensive Rotom, Lanturn and Zapdos. Cheek Pouch seems like a good ability on paper, because 58% is a lot of HP. However, it's so frail that I'd be curious to see how often you can get it to activate reliably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 58% hp ONCE looks good on paper until you realize things like zapdos get roost~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylphid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Why would you seriously use Dedenne...? Only thing it can do better than other Electric-types is switching into Dragon-type moves. And look like it should mega evolve into Raichu If it's Cheek Pouch you want to try, you could try Diggersby. That thing looks more defensive than Dedenne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Seriously thou aren't there infinitely better berries to use for this ability than Sitrus? Pinch berries, weakness reduction berries and lum berry cime to mind. Considering their actuvation demands, pinch and weakness reduction berries would not mind a free sitrus berry effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuxSpes Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 But it's not that terrible The only stat it has that is decent is speed. And his movepool and ability are unremarkable. It's gonna faint as soon as one of the top tier pick happen to sneeze at it. Let's not forget EQ is one of the most used move in serious moveset. And we're not even counting the mega evos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Well it doesnt matter how "bad" Dedenne is because the rest of my team is VERY good and strong, so i can use at least 1 "non-competitive" pokemon. And i was looking for the weakness reduction and pinch berries, but idk where their locations are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcubedude Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Well it doesnt matter how "bad" Dedenne is because the rest of my team is VERY good and strong, so i can use at least 1 "non-competitive" pokemon. And i was looking for the weakness reduction and pinch berries, but idk where their locations are. The pinch berries can be gotten through berry mutations, as described in this Serebii page. Also, the weakness reduction berries that I know of are located in the following places: Kasib Berry Tree: Route 20 Roseli Berry Tree: Route 14 Tanga Berry Tree: Route 22 Wacan Berry Tree: Route 18 Yache Berry Tree: Route 19 Edited November 7, 2013 by Gcubedude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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