Questions, on Hard

[Spector]

So, I picked up a 2DS and Awakening. I decided, since I've beaten every Fire Emblem to come to NA I'd start my first game on hard.

Woo boy, I forgot how brutal this game can be.

But I've scraped up to Chapter 6 before finally breaking down and checking this site.

Here's what the game looks like for my Top 8;

[spoiler=Chrom]

Level 13 Lord

31 HP

17 Str

3 Mag

15 Skill

13 Spd

13 Lck

10 Def

4 Res

B in Swords

B Support with Sumia (Whom I'm planning on pairing him with), C with the Avatar.

[spoiler=Avatar]

Level 14 Tactician

25 HP

11 Str

17 Mag (+4)

12 Skill

11 Spd

14 Lck (+4)

9 Def

6 Res (+4)

E in Swords, B in Tomes

S Support with Lissa (Which I'm kinda regretting looking at the forums), C with Chrom.

[spoiler=Lissa]

Level 5 Cleric

21 HP

2 Str

8 Mag

5 Skill

6 Spd

9 Lck

4 Def

6 Res

D in Staves

S with Avatar

[spoiler=Sumia]

Level 4 Pegasus Knight [i'm trying to level her, honest!]

21 HP

7 Str

3 Mag

13 Skill

14 Spd (+2 with skill)

9 Lck

6 Def

7 Res

Near- C in Lances

B Support with Chrom (Whom I'm planning on pairing her with).

[spoiler=Kellam]

Level 11 Knight

27 HP

15 Str

2 Mag

11 Skill

9 Spd

6 Lck

18 Def (+2 with skills, meaning almost nobody can touch him right now)

2 Res

B in Lances

B Support with Donnel (He's the big butt that keeps him alive) C with Stahl.

[spoiler=Donnel]

Level 4 Generic Enemy Unit (I kid, he's a villager)

19 HP

7 Str

1 Mag

3 Skill

5 Spd

14 Lck

4 Def

0 Res

D in Lances

B Support with Kellam (He's the big butt that keeps him alive)

[spoiler=Virion]

Level 5 MI6 Agent (Archer)

21 HP

9 Str

0 Mag

11 Skill (+2 with skills)

7 Spd

8 Lck

8 Def

1 Res

C in Bows

C Support with Sully (Whom I'm planning on pairing him with).

[spoiler=Sully]

Level 8 Horsewoman

24 HP

9 Str

3 Mag

12 Skill

13 Spd

11 Lck

9 Def

3 Res

B in Lances, E in Swords

C Support with Virion (Whom I'm planning on pairing her with), and a C support with an unfortunately deceased Vaike.

First question, am I totally boned in regards to children?

Second, who should I kick out for Anna, as soon as I finish her chapter? (Also, who should I pair her with?)

Third, I REALLY want to class the Avatar into a Dark Mage, but it seems like a really bad idea from what I've read...

Any help or other commentary is appreciated!

[Aurath8]

I wouldn't worry about children too much, as many of them are quite hard to use unless you plan on doing post game. In fact, imo, only Chrom's, Avatar's and Sully's kids are 'easy' to obtain. They'll be quite underlevelled, essentially acting as Ests unless you plan on doing skirmishes.

Anna can only marry the Avatar and she doesn't have any other supports with male characters. In fact she only has one support besides the Avatar, so for that reason I tend not to use her.

Reclassing the Avatar to a Dark Mage at Ch6 isn't a good idea, as the main draw of Dark Mage is Nosferatu and you don't get any until Ch9 and can't buy them until Ch13. After Ch13 you're free to reclass into a Sorceror and rape the game with Nosferatu.

As for any other advice, level your team evenly. Technically you could just burn your way through the game with Chrom and Avatar, but I prefer larger teams if only to read the supports and get a few kids later on.

Reclass Panne into a Wyvern Knight. No matter how many times I've played through Awakening this is always one of the best choices I make.

[Czar_Yoshi]

Most of the stuff you hear on this forum is in regards to the postgame, the main game is completely different. That said, you should probably ditch Donnel and focus on promoting Lissa to Sage. Heal with her whenever possible instead of merely when you need it and you should have her to Lv.10 in a chapter or so.

[Rapier]

Kick Phoenix Wright Donnel out. He's subpar and not worth the time.

To be honest, the kids catch up quickly since their parents' stats influence their starting stats when you enter their Paralogues. If you find them too weak, just come back later, when the parents are stronger.

[Czar_Yoshi]

But the kids' recruitment stats grow slower than the parent's stats, so they'll be higher if you recruit them and then let them do three chapters than if you do three chapters then recruit them.

[Introvertism]

I see no Lon'qu. *cries*

[Spector]

I see no Lon'qu. *cries*

I have him. I was thinking about it, but I have so many sword users...

[Tribute]

Reclass someone after you get astra

[Introvertism]

I have him. I was thinking about it, but I have so many sword users...

Not in that list as far as I can see. Your MU has E on Swords (Sully as well), and then Chrom.

[Spector]

Not in that list as far as I can see. Your MU has E on Swords (Sully as well), and then Chrom.

I just realized that as I posted. lol

So, Donnel for Lon'qu?

I got a Master Seal from a shop, who should I class up first? The Avatar?

[Czar_Yoshi]

If you can, try not to promote until Lv.20. After that, Avatar is probably the best to promote as long as you don't want to do any other base classes (Mercenary comes to mind, but with your weapon ranks that wouldn't be wise).

[Spector]

Grandmaster? Sorc?

[Czar_Yoshi]

Tactician can only promote to Grandmaster. If you want to be a Sorc, you'll need to reclass to Dark Mage and then promote to Sorc, or promote to Grandmaster, reach Lv.10, and then reclass to Sorc. I'd advise just staying Grandmaster (and switching to Sage for more Mag or Dark Knight for more Mov later) because Sorcs look hideous, are broken, and sap a lot of fun from the game, especially on first playthroughs.

[Tribute]

Dark knights cant use dark magic btw.

Just to save you a seal, I screwed that up as soon as i got Tharja on my first run

[Spector]

I feel like a memorial wall is necessary

Vaike- Felled in Chapter 2. He forgot to use his axe,

Fred- Defeated in Chapter 3. Dat Hammer doe.

Ricken- Dead in Chapter 5. I could really only save him or Maribelle. Which is ironic, considering I never used her again anyway.

Stahl- Died in Paralogue 3. He died to save those FUCKING BRAINLESS VILLAGERS RAARRRRGHGHHGGGH.

Cordila- Defeated in Chapter 8. I found her to be the weaker, and thus expendable flier. Such is life.

Now, an update on the Top Nine, as of Chapter 9.

[spoiler=Chrom]

Level 20 Lord

36 HP

21 Str

3 Mag

20 Skill

19 Spd

17 Lck

14 Def

8 Res

A in Swords

S Support with Sumia, C with the Avatar.

[spoiler=Avatar]

Level 1 Grandmaster

32 HP

16 Str

25 Mag

17 Skill

17 Spd

21 Lck

14 Def

13 Res

E in Swords, A in Tomes

S Support with Lissa (Which I'm kinda regretting looking at my future cleric-Morgan), C with Chrom.

[spoiler=Lissa]

Level 7 Cleric

21 HP

2 Str

8 Mag

6 Skill

7 Spd

10 Lck

4 Def

8 Res

D in Staves

S with Avatar

[spoiler=Sumia]

Level 8 Pegasus Knight [i'm still trying to level her, honest!]

24 HP

8 Str

4 Mag

16 Skill

17 Spd (+2 with skill)

12 Lck

8 Def

9 Res

C in Lances

S Support with Chrom.

[spoiler=Kellam]

Level 13 Knight

29 HP

16 Str

2 Mag

13 Skill

11 Spd

7 Lck

19 Def (+2 with skills, meaning almost nobody can touch him right now)

3 Res

B in Lances

B Support with Donnel, C with Stahl.

[spoiler=Lon'Qu]

Level 9 Scissorman

22 HP

11 Str

2 Mag

18 Skill

16 Spd

11 Lck

8 Def

3 Res

C in Swords

C Support with Panne, ideally his future wife. For giggles.

[spoiler=Gaius]

Level 10 Shanker

27 HP

9 Str

3 Mag

17 Skill

20 Spd

9 Lck

6 Def

2 Res

C in Swords

No supports. I'm thinking Nowi...

[spoiler=Sully]

Level 10 Horsewoman

26 HP

10 Str

3 Mag

13 Skill

14 Spd

13 Lck

9 Def

3 Res

B in Lances, E in Swords

C Support with Virion (Whom I'm planning on pairing her with), and a C support with an unfortunately deceased Vaike and Stahl.

[spoiler=Panne]

Level 7 Laguz

29 HP

8 Str (+3)

1 Mag

10 Skill (+5)

11 Spd (+5)

8 Lck (+4)

7 Def (+1)

3 Res

C with Lon'Qu.

Have I dun Goofed?

Is Lon'Qu in fact, God? (When I don't have to restart from his abysmal defence)

Why the hell didn't I pair The Avatar with Lucina?

Should I class up Chrom now, or another unit?

:P

Edited January 24, 2014 by Spector

[Czar_Yoshi]

Definitely either promote Chrom to Great Lord or reclass to Cavalier. All children come at Lv.10, so you'll be able to immediately get Morgan out of Cleric, don't worry.

[tuvarkz]

You seem to have goofed around tbh. You should have swapped Frederick to the lead (probably MU) to face the hammer guy, or rather not put him in range of it. Chapter 2 should have been an easy clear with Chrom+Freddie and Avatar+Stahl/Vaike. Chapter 5 you could have saved them both, you just needed to either pair them up before rescuing or rescue one, and place the other in the safespot that there is in turn 1. Cordelia is actually terribly useful,

[Spector]

You seem to have goofed around tbh. You should have swapped Frederick to the lead (probably MU) to face the hammer guy, or rather not put him in range of it. Chapter 2 should have been an easy clear with Chrom+Freddie and Avatar+Stahl/Vaike. Chapter 5 you could have saved them both, you just needed to either pair them up before rescuing or rescue one, and place the other in the safespot that there is in turn 1. Cordelia is actually terribly useful,

At the time, I think I was still desperately trying to have Donnel become worth. The Jagen was an appropriate sacrifice, at the time.

I did pair Maribelle and Ricken up, but I couldn't push up there for the life of me, the RNG did not allow it without a death. Or sacrifice, I suppose

New update time!

---

Vaike- Felled in Chapter 2. He forgot to use his axe,

Fred- Defeated in Chapter 3. Dat Hammer doe.

Ricken- Dead in Chapter 5. I could really only save him or Maribelle. Which is ironic, considering I never used her again anyway.

Stahl- Died in Paralogue 3. He died to save those FUCKING BRAINLESS VILLAGERS RAARRRRGHGHHGGGH.

Cordelia- Defeated in Chapter 8. I found her to be the weaker, and thus expendable flier. Such is life.

Tharja- Defeated in Chapter 9. I was forced to run a gambit to save the MU, Libra and Tharja. I saved two of them.

---

Now, an update on the Top...10? Sure. Chapter 10, by the way.

[spoiler=Chrom]

Level 7 Gigantic Badass Lord

46 HP

28 Str

3 Mag

24 Skill

26 Spd

21 Lck

19 Def

11 Res

A in Swords, D in Lances

S Support with Sumia, C with the Avatar.

[spoiler=Avatar]

Level 11 Grandmaster

34 HP

19 Str

33 Mag

23 Skill

21 Spd

26 Lck

18 Def

16 Res

E in Swords, A in Tomes

S Support with Lissa, C with Chrom.

[spoiler=Lissa]

Level 7 Cleric

21 HP

2 Str

8 Mag

6 Skill

7 Spd

10 Lck

4 Def

8 Res

D in Staves

S with Avatar

[spoiler=Sumia]

Level 14 Pegasus Knight [i'm still trying to level her, honest!]

29 HP

9 Str

5 Mag

22 Skill

23 Spd (+2 with skill)

17 Lck

12 Def

12 Res

B in Lances

S Support with Chrom.

[spoiler=Kellam]

Level 15 Knight

31 HP

18 Str

2 Mag

14 Skill

11 Spd

8 Lck

20 Def (+2 with skills, meaning almost nobody can touch him right now)

5 Res

B in Lances

B Support with Donnel, C with Stahl.

[spoiler=Lon'Qu]

Level 14 Scissorman

27 HP

12 Str

4 Mag

23 Skill

19 Spd

14 Lck

11 Def

4 Res

B in Swords

A Support with Panne, ideally his future wife. For giggles.

[spoiler=Gaius]

Level 7 Swordsman, after reclassing from a Level 12 Thief. Going for that Assassin class.

35 HP

14 Str

5 Mag

25 Skill

29 Spd

11 Lck

11 Def

5 Res

B in Swords

S support with Nowi

[spoiler=Sully]

Level 12 Horsewoman

28 HP

10 Str

3 Mag

13 Skill

14 Spd

14 Lck

9 Def

4 Res

A in Lances, E in Swords

A Support with Virion (Whom I'm planning on pairing her with), and a C support with an unfortunately deceased Vaike and Stahl.

[spoiler=Panne]

Level 12 Laguz

34 HP

11 Str (+3)

2 Mag

15 Skill (+5)

15 Spd (+5)

9 Lck (+4)

11 Def (+1)

3 Res

A with Lon'Qu.

[spoiler=Nowi]

Level 8 DRAGON Laguz

28 HP

9 Str (+8)

0 Mag (+5)

5 Skill (+3)

7 Spd (+2)

10 Lck

5 Def (+10)

5 Res (+7)

S with Gaius.

I've got two Second Seals and Three Master Seals. I have no idea what may or may not screw me, so where should I be investing these?

I still really want to class the Avatar into a Sorc. I should get the Rally Spectrum from Level 15 Grandmaster-ship though, right?

Finally, Virion or Gregor, in regards to who I should prioritize leveling?

Edited January 26, 2014 by Spector

[tuvarkz]

given your nice amount of seals, I'd call for a MU reclass to Sorceror, and Panne to Wyvern Rider. given infinite levelups, prepromoting isn't a really bad idea here given the massive amount of master seals you got stashed, so prepromo Sumia into Dark Flier, Lon'qu into either, and Sully into Great Knight.

[Spector]

given your nice amount of seals, I'd call for a MU reclass to Sorceror, and Panne to Wyvern Rider. given infinite levelups, prepromoting isn't a really bad idea here given the massive amount of master seals you got stashed, so prepromo Sumia into Dark Flier, Lon'qu into either, and Sully into Great Knight.

Just what I was thinking.

UPDATE!

---

Vaike- Felled in Chapter 2. He forgot to use his axe,

Fred- Defeated in Chapter 3. Dat Hammer doe.

Ricken- Dead in Chapter 5. I could really only save him or Maribelle. Which is ironic, considering I never used her again anyway.

Stahl- Died in Paralogue 3. He died to save those FUCKING BRAINLESS VILLAGERS RAARRRRGHGHHGGGH.

Cordelia- Defeated in Chapter 8. I found her to be the weaker, and thus expendable flier. Such is life.

Tharja- Defeated in Chapter 9. I was forced to run a gambit to save the MU, Libra and Tharja. I saved two of them.

---

Now for our twelve heros, ladies and gentlemen. Chapter 16 is about to be completed.

[spoiler=Chrom]

Level 14 Gigantic Badass Lord

53 HP

33 Str

4 Mag

29 Skill

31 Spd

23 Lck

23 Def

14 Res

A in Swords, D in Lances

S Support with Sumia, B with the Avatar, B with his daughter Lucina. Spoilers.

[spoiler=Avatar]

Level 7 Sorcerer

44 HP

18 Str

46 Mag

26 Skill

24 Spd

33 Lck

23 Def

22 Res

A in Tomes

S Support with Lissa, B with Chrom.

[spoiler=Lissa]

Level 8 Cleric

22 HP

2 Str

9 Mag

7 Skill

7 Spd

11 Lck

4 Def

9 Res

C in Staves

S with Avatar

[spoiler=Sumia]

Level 2 Dark Flier

39 HP

15 Str

11 Mag

30 Skill

30 Spd (+2 with skill)

20 Lck

14 Def

16 Res

A in Lances, E in Tomes

S Support with Chrom, C support with her daughter Lucina.

[spoiler=Kellam]

Level 3 General

48 HP

26 Str

5 Mag

23 Skill

18 Spd

11 Lck

29 Def (+2 with skills)

14 Res

A in Lances

B Support with Donnel, C with Stahl, B with Olivia

[spoiler=Lon'Qu]

Level 2 Advanced Sissorman

37 HP

19 Str

8 Mag

29 Skill

29 Spd

18 Lck

15 Def

8 Res

A in Swords

S Support with Panne

[spoiler=Gaius]

Level 2 Barber, Sweeney Todd-style

48 HP

22 Str

8 Mag

36 Skill

33 Spd

13 Lck

13 Def

6 Res

A in Swords, E in Bows

S support with Nowi

[spoiler=Sully]

Level 1 Armored Horsewoman

42 HP

19 Str

3 Mag

18 Skill

17 Spd

18 Lck

19 Def

6 Res

A in Lances, E in Swords, E in Axes

S Support with Virion, and a C support with an unfortunately deceased Vaike and Stahl. C with Kellam

[spoiler=Panne]

Level 13 Laguz

35 HP

12 Str (+3)

2 Mag

16 Skill (+5)

16 Spd (+5)

9 Lck (+4)

12 Def (+1)

3 Res

S with Lon'Qu.

[spoiler=Nowi]

Level 22 DRAGON Laguz

47 HP

17 Str (+8)

10 Mag (+5)

13 Skill (+3)

18 Spd (+2)

16 Lck

14 Def (+10)

10 Res (+7)

S with Gaius.

[spoiler=Lucina]

Level 1 Great (Time) Lord

48 HP

25 Str

5 Mag

30 Skill

30 Spd

26 Lck

20 Def

15 Res

A in Swords, D in Lances

C support with Sumia, her mother. B support with Chrom, her father.

[spoiler=Olivia]

Level 5 Stri- DANCER. DANCER.

26 HP

4 Str

2 Mag

10 Skill

13 Spd

8 Lck (+4)

3 Def

3 Res

D in Swords,

B support with Kellam.

Is it worth Marrying Oliivia and Kellam?

Should I reclass Lucina? What to?

Should I feel bad Tharja died?

Edited January 30, 2014 by Spector

[Czar_Yoshi]

Reclass Lucina? I usually find Cavalier to be a strong first move, but since you've already promoted her (and especially if you promoted her at Lv.10) doing that will ruin her exp gain. Just use her as a GL and wait 15 levels for your next skill.

No, you won't miss Tharja (aesthetically, of course).