Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 So I want my avatar to be the best swordmaster as possible. Any tips minus the best and worst stat? (In my playthrough, he has plus hp and minus luck, yeah... I know it's bad) So I was thinking: Lethality Astra Limitbreaker All stats plus 2 Ignis Others I was considering: (Vantage, Wrath, Sol, Luna, Swordfaire) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Limit Breaker Sol Luna All Stats+2 Swordfaire Just my two cents. Edited January 15, 2014 by ZeeEmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Limit Breaker Aggressor Sol Luna Armsthrift My opinion but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) My personal recommendation: Limit Breaker Luna Ignis Swordfaire Vantage Another Astra/Lethality. *Sigh* Just a side note: Swordmasters are very weak in this game. Their only advantages over Assassins are Mag, Def, and Res. Magic is going to get you +2 damage from Ignis... but Assassins have +2 strength in the first place. Def/Res aren't going to be of large consequence for a class that is meant mostly for dodging. Assassins also have access to bows. Edited January 15, 2014 by Gaius217 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 My personal recommendation: Limit Breaker Luna Ignis Swordfaire Vantage Another Astra/Lethality. *Sigh* Lol indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 AT Limit Breaker Agressor Are the 3 staples. Then either VV, or Luna/astra+swordfaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Don't do Ignis, lack of magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiac Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Here I got a good one: Vantage Armsthrift Vengeance Limit Breaker Swordfaire/All Stats +2/Counter/Agressor/Wrath/Miracle This is more of a counter set,as mainly it is for purposes to do a lot of damage from Vengeance,and if you get attacked Vantage will save you then Vengeance will activate doing massive amounts of damage.Limit Breaker for the extra 10 everything,Armsthrift so your weapon doesn't break,then the 6 options. Swordfaire for the extra damage for a sword because you're locked to swords,all stats +2 for the extra boost in all stats,Counter in case you get damaged even more,Agressor for an offensive use of Vengeance,Wrath because when Vantage activates you get +20 crit,Miracle to leave you with 1 HP so Vengeance can defeat everyone in your path,your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Don't do Ignis, lack of magic Swordmasters have decent Mag for any non-Magic using class. And ignis can be used ANYWHERE. Without Mods, and with LB, you're going to be doing at least 5 more damage (Pavise+, Dragonskin), but usually +22. That's not even factoring in rallies. Edited January 15, 2014 by Gaius217 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm now thinking maybe...Wrath, Vengeance, Limit Breaker, Vantage, and Luna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm now thinking maybe...Wrath, Vengeance, Limit Breaker, Vantage, and Luna Wrath isn't very good And Luna and Vengeance probably shouldn't be running together Maybe AT for one, swordfaire or all stats +2 for the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Wrath isn't very good And Luna and Vengeance probably shouldn't be running together Maybe AT for one, swordfaire or all stats +2 for the other Why not Luna and Vengeance? Can only one activate? If not, you realize Vengeance's activation rate is 100% for a capped Swordmaster with Limit Breaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Only one can activate at a time Plus vengeance on a SM isn't too good since they can mostly dodge everything and they don't have very good ranged weaponry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Only one can activate at a time Plus vengeance on a SM isn't too good since they can mostly dodge everything and they don't have very good ranged weaponry My logic was that Vantage, Wrath, and Vengeance are a good combo. Perhaps, armsthrift instead of Luna? Or maybe all stats plus two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiac Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Only one can activate at a time Plus vengeance on a SM isn't too good since they can mostly dodge everything and they don't have very good ranged weaponry They have the Amatsu and Ragnell so they're pretty set if they have Armsthrift,but yeah being dodgy is kinda a problem,but they're defense isn't great so you may as well go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Armsthrift sounds nice. I'll have a strong unit who will deal extra damage back (more the less hp he has), will attack first when less than half, and crit will increase. Dodging is good but taking no damage is always a good thing. Crit plus five or all stats plus two instead of armsthrift would work too, maybe... Edited January 15, 2014 by Roy: Marquess of Pherae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I'm actually running a VV, SF, LB, AT Swordmaster as my current MU. Its not min max-y, but destroying levels with a spear chucked Amatsu is pretty damn satisfying. (seriously the way they throw amatsu wat) I might try a different class once I get a ragnell Edited January 15, 2014 by Tribute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 My logic was that Vantage, Wrath, and Vengeance are a good combo. Perhaps, armsthrift instead of Luna? Or maybe all stats plus two? Wrath isn't that useful on any class, and VV is really meant for classes that have a wider variety of ranged weapons if I were to use a swordmaster, I'd probably have LB, AT, Luna, Aggressor, and maybe vantage or swordfaire Because Swordmasters are so dodgy, they will rarely be under half health. When this happens, yes, they will do lots of damage. But a luna set will allow for good damage even when at high health. But it's really up to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I'm now thinking maybe...Wrath, Vengeance, Limit Breaker, Vantage, and Luna Luna has priority over Vengeance, and will put you into a pinch if it procs when Vengeance is needed. V/V only works well on Sages, as Swordmasters don't have access to any good 1-2 range weapons (Ragnell/Amatsu are NOT good). No 1-2 range braves either. Wrath is just... bad. Edited January 15, 2014 by Gaius217 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiac Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Luna has priority over Vengeance, and will put you into a pinch if it procs when Vengeance is needed. V/V only works well on Sages, as Swordmasters don't have access to any good 1-2 range weapons (Ragnell/Amatsu are NOT good). No 1-2 range braves either. Wrath is just... bad. How about Levin Sword xD...*cricket chirps* Ragnell is good though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 How about Levin Sword xD...*cricket chirps* Ragnell is good though... I'm talking about the absence of 1-2 range brave effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy: Marquess of Pherae Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I'm not even quite sure what to do, now. So many options... But that's why I have you people I guess. So...LB, A2, Luna, Aggressor, other... maybe? Is that good? I am confused because there really are a lot of different set ups that could work. Edited January 15, 2014 by Roy: Marquess of Pherae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolCoolCool Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 - LB - Luna - Swordfaire - Ignis/Aggressor/Armsthirft/Vantage - See above At say 60 skill, ignis increases your chance of a proc from 60% to 84% which is a pretty meaningful jump. Aggressor is great if you have a galeforce wife (get the +10 attack boost twice per turn rather than once) and still good otherwise. Armsthrift for convenience, vantage for general usefulness. or - LB - Vantage - Vengeance - Swordfaire - Armsthrift/Aggressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm not even quite sure what to do, now. So many options... But that's why I have you people I guess. So...LB, A2, Luna, Aggressor, other... maybe? Is that good? I am confused because there really are a lot of different set ups that could work. If you aren't doing VV its easy Limit Breaker Armsthrift Agressor Swordfaire DPS Proc of choice (not lethality) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Limit Breaker Armsthrift Agressor Swordfaire DPS Proc of choice (not lethality) Armsthrift? *Facepalm* You're better off leaving that skill slot to almost ANYTHING else. Aggressor should only be used in a situation where you don't already have a -faire skill equipped. The only real "choice" that you have when choosing procs are Luna, Ignis, and Vengeance. Vengeance isn't as useful unless it's in V/V, which only Tome-Wielding classes can take advantage of, leaving that slot for Luna or Ignis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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