Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Serial Killers goal is to kill all players. Vigilante is a townie right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes but I still have no reason to tell you it beyond the fact that you want me to. I'm not a killing role. ##Unvote ##Vote: Frosty Fire Mage Too worried about one of his RVS votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Serial Killers goal is to kill all players. Vigilante is a townie right? Pretty much, yes. But there's no way that SB would've tried to crumb that he was either of those roles. Looks like it's time to finish P3P so I can rolespec this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes but I still have no reason to tell you it beyond the fact that you want me to. I'm not a killing role. ##Unvote ##Vote: Frosty Fire Mage Too worried about one of his RVS votes. Which vote is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Serial Killer would have gotten him lynched probably immediatly. ##Vote:SB Hopefully that will convince him to talk. After all he was to survive to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 ##Unvote Y'know, just so it's clear it was a joke vote. The timing of this unvote after people were getting called out for RVS votes is what I don't like. It seems like FFM is too self-conscious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Serial Killer would have gotten him lynched probably immediatly. ##Vote:SB Hopefully that will convince him to talk. After all he was to survive to win. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ah, I see but I will have to stand by my earlier vote. You could be fakeclaiming but we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 wait no fake claiming would be needed woops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Read Rule 29. The only threat to the town are the Nyxists, aka not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 RVS votes are early-game votes that have little to no reasoning, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Junko: Vigs are usually town-aligned anyway. At least, in most games they are. Also, SB's refusal is kinda suspicious to me. Like I said, if we truly have nothing to worry from him, revealing it would just mean that neither town nor maf has a reason to bother him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Junko: Vigs are usually town-aligned anyway. At least, in most games they are. Also, SB's refusal is kinda suspicious to me. Like I said, if we truly have nothing to worry from him, revealing it would just mean that neither town nor maf has a reason to bother him. MAFIA 3 SHOT VIGILANTE THAT GETS EXTRA SHOTS AFTER EVERY PR DIES IS A GOOD ROLE. I have no reason to claim my wincon, so I'm not doing it. Stop asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Oh yeah I am wasting my time anyway because he will become town. Gah I am being an idiot for my first game ##Unvote There can be multiple winners in mafia right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I dunno junko, I don't exactly TRUST his claim, but I don't see how we'd get him to speak more unless people wagon on him so I'll let it be for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky_Paladin Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I don't get it. You have a solo win condition (like a captain planet I guess) except that "it can fail and then you revert to a normal towny", suggesting you then have a town win condition. I guess my worry is that you CURRENTLY have a non-town win condition. Can you tell us the condition so we can make you part of the team? Seems pretty straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 That and other than the claim he hasn't exactly done anything suspicious. I don't think a maf would attract attention on himself on purpose on day 1 like this... but then again, THAT might exactly be his reasoning too... still, no hard proof, no nothing, so I won't exactly vote for him yet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 What sky_paladin said. It's this reluctance to tell your wincon that is making us suspect you if you're really as harmless to us as you claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Oh yeah I am wasting my time anyway because he will become town. Gah I am being an idiot for my first game ##Unvote He says he'll only become town if he fails his wincon. This makes his faction switch extremely hard to test, and like you said earlier, he could simply be fakeclaiming this. Sort of shaky reasoning to unvote now, imo. I believe there's a character in P3 that becomes an antagonist after a certain plot twist partway through the game. SB could be this character, claiming that he becomes town instead of scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ssssshhhh GP, P3 spoilers ;) That said, there are multiple possibilities if you want to go by character. Also, Junko is either really new, or faking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I guess we all want to find out. But what exactly do survivors do? He is a third party but do survivors actually do anything besides hoping to live. He says he is not a survivor or what we think survivor is.(Regular survivor) Anyway I say we should not lynch SB Day 1 because we have no idea who is going to get killed or who is going to live. Perhaps he can roleblock(survivors can do this right?). And you guys even presented evidence against my vote. SB refusing to tell us what he does is suspicious. But Kopflajer also said he is town allied so he could help us. I doubt anyone was going to vote SB but if anyone was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I either win and leave, or someone else stops me from fulfilling my wincon and I become a townie. I'm not claiming my wincon because then it tells people how to mess with it if it benefits them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 No. I did not say he was town allied. I said that if he is really harmless, he can tell us his wincon, and then we'd have no reason to bother him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 SB, allow me to ask then, answer if you can: Does your wincon involve any deaths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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