Can someone link me to the cancelation artickle

[ClassyWolf]

I'm just really curious about it, I hear it every now and angain "be glad that awakening saved the series", but what I've seen of the intervju they said

- "How is working with Nintendo?" They explain that the 250.000 copies thing is almost with every game, isn't the first time. "It's like being in a very strict school that teaches you to no make games so I have a good time. The game should reach users or would be useless. [...] But you realize that it is necessary for be able to satisfy users."

So I don't know what to make of it, is it that every time they release a game it's in danger of cancellation?

The article I got it from was:

http://www.fireemblemwod.com/articulo.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1369329094&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

And no, I don't speak spanish but with the wonders of the internet and a little help I (hopefully) got a good understanding of it.

[Book of Ereshkigal]

Here's the topic Vincent made on it http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40303

Old news, but shocking news.

In an interview with the Spanish magazine "Hobby Consolas", published on 22nd April, the developers remarked that Fire Emblem: Awakening could have been the last game in the Fire Emblem series if sales weren't up to scratch. (Thanks to Fire Emblem: Wars of Dragons for picking this up.)

The full quote, translated by Albafika:

Curiously, there's a similar statement in the interview in the June 2013 issue of Nintendo Dream.

Translated by shadowofchaos:

Fortunately for us, sales of Awakening far exceeded expectations, selling around 500,000 copies in Japan and over 240,000 copies in North America.

However, I think it's shocking to know that the series could have ended if things had taken a different turn. Perhaps the fact that Heroes of Light and Shadow didn't get localised was a sign that Nintendo was getting ready to pack the bags with the series...

If it's like that with every game, I wonder why they acted surprised, dramatization? :p

Edited April 26, 2014 by L95

[ClassyWolf]

Here's the topic Vincent made on it http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40303

If it's like that with every game, I wonder why they acted surprised, dramatization? :p

i don't know, and he linked to the same page where I found the intervju so it really doesen't answear my question, and your right about their reactions... where is ray when you need him?

[VincentASM]

I dunno, the quotes I posted way back seem clear enough. Are you just missing the context? : o

Thing is, FE has been slowly in decline for a long time. Ever since FE4 probably, which sold less than FE3, although back then sales were still relatively impressive.

While Nintendo probably haven't acknowledged this, FE sales really started to slip around the GameCube and Wii era, when development costs soared and the games didn't even break the 200,000 mark in Japan.

The DS remakes performed better, but didn't help to elevate FE beyond niche-level sales.

Then you have IS staff commenting that FE could have been put on hold/cancelled if Awakening didn't sell the same numbers. At that point, who knew how Awakening would have sold? So that's where the danger came from.

[ClassyWolf]

I dunno, the quotes I posted way back seem clear enough. Are you just missing the context? : o

Thing is, FE has been slowly in decline for a long time. Ever since FE4 probably, which sold less than FE3, although back then sales were still relatively impressive.

While Nintendo probably haven't acknowledged this, FE sales really started to slip around the GameCube and Wii era, when development costs soared and the games didn't even break the 200,000 mark in Japan.

The DS remakes performed better, but didn't help to elevate FE beyond niche-level sales.

Then you have IS staff commenting that FE could have been put on hold/cancelled if Awakening didn't sell the same numbers. At that point, who knew how Awakening would have sold? So that's where the danger came from.

Yes but it's the quote I opened with I wonder:

- "How is working with Nintendo?" They explain that the 250.000 copies thing is almost with every game, isn't the first time. "It's like being in a very strict school that teaches you to no make games so I have a good time. The game should reach users or would be useless. [...] But you realize that it is necessary for be able to satisfy users."

http://www.fireemblemwod.com/articulo.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1369329094&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

what makes awakening stand out if this is a fairly frequent thing? if this is as I have understood it we might as well say that shadow dragon at one point saved the series because it sold well enough.

I just wonder if the spanish reporters missunderstood something that would be mentioned in a japaneese interview or if it really is a frequent thing.

[VincentASM]

what makes awakening stand out if this is a fairly frequent thing? if this is as I have understood it we might as well say that shadow dragon at one point saved the series because it sold well enough.

Dunno, it could just be the timing. I'm not going to imagine what all the executives and developers were thinking : P

I see your point though, but when they say stuff like this:

The sales manager of Nintendo, Mr. Hatano, told us that this [Awakening] could be the last Fire Emblem.

"This might be the end of the FE series if Awakening doesn't sell well".

It's hard not to believe that Awakening in particular helped to resurrect the series.

Edited April 26, 2014 by VincentASM

[ClassyWolf]

Dunno, it could just be the timing. I'm not going to imagine what all the executives and developers were thinking : P

I see your point though, but when they say stuff like this:

It's hard not to believe that Awakening in particular helped to resurrect the series.

Yeah, I know what you mean, I'm just trying to get the full picture, and from what I get from those interviews (what i currently understand), awakening deserves praise for selling well enough (alltough that can be because it was better comercialised than earlier Fe:s) so the series wasn't calncelled, but can't be called the ressurector because tha numbers have allways been an issue with if the series gets to continue?

... I don't know if I make any sense, I just don't know waht to make with the information we have got from all of the interviews.

[VincentASM]

Well, I think that part is probably up to your imagination or powers of deduction : )

Certainly, I don't disagree that a lot of sites have been posting radical articles about Awakening saving the series solely based on snippets from an interview. I tried to be as neutral as I could, but at the end of the day, a lot of what we believe stems from what we see and what we *think* we see.

From my perspective, Awakening is the series's saviour, but who knows what the actual truth is. It doesn't help that Nintendo aren't very open about these matters--for good reason, no doubt. I'm actually surprised they were so open about the possibility of FE being cancelled in the first place...