General Horace Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 yeah, this is probably my least favourite castle in the game, there's like nothing to do. I guess on a normal playthrough you'd defend Lenster. I think the only reason that this chapter is actually faster with growths (probably) is rescue though. Leaf promoting actually doesn't save any turns (in this chapter anyway) I don't think. That being said I haven't actually got to this chapter while planning a run yet, so maybe it will. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Being able to rescue Celice over the cliffs at Yied Castle would probably safe a shitload of turns on the way south? How many turns would've been lost had you paired up Aideen with Claude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momogeek2141 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I think the number of turns saved on chapter 4 with the rescue staff is far greater than what could potentially be saved by having it on chapter 7. Although his strategies would be much more reliable due to Fury use. And Holsety Sety maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Nah, rescue is way more valuable in chapter 7 (and 8). You can rescue Celice across the desert after Yied, back up to Darna to recruit Laylea. Rescue might not even really save more than 1-2 turns in chapter 4 honestly. With growths it might not even save any since Azel/Aideen probably will happen too late. Claude Aideen doesn't cost any turns (it's a pretty fast pairing and Jealousy makes it even faster) either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) On 0% growths Azel X Aideen is much better though, if I didn't have the rescue staff I'd be limited to going at a 6 move pace at Thove (since either Levin or Dew would have to walk), and what that would cost me in terms of turns is so much more than what would be gained on chapter 7 (and probably nothing in 8 because Leif wouldn't be promoted on time.) Edited February 9, 2015 by MartyTheDemonSlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I agree with that for sure since nobody can actually fight in gen 1. Other than Levin. Edited February 9, 2015 by General Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 And here's the second worst chapter of the game: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Ah, I forget the cliffs would become traversable after seizing Yied Castle. RIP Earth Sword I guess? ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momogeek2141 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I play this game on an emulator with no speed up function. It's frustrating at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I remember I played through this game the first time or two without using speed up and then in my first FE4 draft Horace completed the entire first gen in one night or something and I was like HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 god how could you even do the arenas is amid actually needed up north? Linda could probably actually have some value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'm not sure if he's needed up north, but he makes things easier. I'm also not sure if I could rig it so that Linda survives since Oifaye will be using a light sword. Either way I don't think Linda would actually help at all because there aren't any other points where I need any infantry other than Shanan and an occasional Sety cameo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) its more you just get another staff user I doubt Wrath would actually be useful Although I guess Sety could probably cover all the warping since he doesn't really need to fight. Edited February 9, 2015 by General Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topazd Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Tbh, playing the game without speed up isn't too bad. I almost never speed up any game, since I kind of have the mentality that I have to experience the the game 100% like it was originally intended to be experienced or it will just come off as inauthentic to me, haha. I tend to listen to something other than the game's own OST during the arena portions, though. That does make them quite a bit more tolerable. On a different note, Janne is my actual name, so uh, I hope she doesn't immediately die horribly. Edited February 9, 2015 by Topazd255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 On a different note, Janne is my actual name, so uh, I hope she doesn't immediately die horribly. Different pronounciation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 And here's Darna! I polished my strategy a bit, so Shanan doesn't have to die for our turn counts. Next video might be as bad as Yied I just realized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHw14GOVTiI&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 whew Roddlebad is still alive to Berserk Sword the Hel Dark Mage for endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Truthfully Marty I'm enjoying C7 from you. You make it interesting to watch, even if not much is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Watching all these Ch7 videos reminds me why I haven't touched this game in ages. Truth to be told though, watching this run actually inspires me to play this game a bit more often in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) The end of Chapter 1, Chapter 2, and Chapter 7 are all bad, but I think besides that the game is pretty fun. Edited February 10, 2015 by MartyTheDemonSlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Shanan will have a sojourn in hell from Darna to the end of chapter 8, so no, I unfortunately can't pair him up (well maybe with jealousy, but since pairings aren't as important in the second generation the section on second generation jealousy isn't completed, and I'm not going to work it out for the sake of a +10% boost to hit/evade.)Assuming you've restarted the game at least once (which you will for Celice's extra leadership star), sources suggest the following jealousy lists. Celice Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee＝Tinny＝Leen＝Rana＝Patty＝Altenna Leaf Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee＝Tinny＝Leen＝Rana＝Patty＝Altenna Faval Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee＝Tinny＝Leen＝Rana＝Patty Lester Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee＝Tinny＝Leen＝Rana Corpul Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee＝Tinny＝Leen Arthur Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee＝Tinny Sety Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe＝Fee Skasher Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna＝Lackhe Diarmuid Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney＝Nanna Johan Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney Johalva Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney Rodlevan Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia＝Mana＝Radney Tristan Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia Dimna Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia Oifey Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne＝Femina＝Julia Amid Femina＞Julia＞Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy＝Janne Shanan Janne＞Femina＞Julia＞Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda＝Daisy Ares Daisy＞Janne＞Femina＞Julia＞Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna＞Layla＝Linda Asaello Layla＞Linda＞Daisy＞Janne＞Femina＞Julia＞Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna Hawk Layla＞Linda＞Daisy＞Janne＞Femina＞Julia＞Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna Sharlow Layla＞Linda＞Daisy＞Janne＞Femina＞Julia＞Mana＞Radney＞Nanna＞Lackhe＞Fee＞Tinny＞Leen＞Rana＞Patty＞Altenna Edited February 10, 2015 by Balcerzak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyTheDemonSlayer Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I unfortunately don't think I have time to pair shanan up, but with better planning maybe it could be done in a future play through. And here, finally, is the end of chapter 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkH_qS7WuZc&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Finally it's over. Does anybody have a direct link for the nicovideo 161 run by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 this is the epilogue http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5401513 I think you need an account to watch stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thanks. I have a nicovideo account because I used to watch smash bros livestreams there. Used to be a pain to get signed-up >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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