Radiant head Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Was anyone able to recover all the chests in the Part 1 endgame? I try to get Sothe to go for the chests, and I accompany him with someone like Naliah or BK, but the enemy thieves make this really difficult. I get the Reaper Card easily, but by then, the thieves go up deep into enemy territory and I have no idea how to stop them. Thanks in advance to anyone with advice on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You need to be more than a little fast to catch thieves. Pass Nailah and proper use of Rafiel might be what you're lacking. I usually just steal the standard speedrun strat for the first turn or two for 1-E. You can see it here from 25:00 or so onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks a lot! I completely forgot about Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Pass also works with Sothe well, if you want to keep it with the Dawn Brigade. Not as well as it works with Nailah but then again. It's freaking Nailah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah I tried that, but Sothe gets hit pretty badly. Which is weird, since he's like invincible in the previous DB chapters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah I tried that, but Sothe gets hit pretty badly. Which is weird, since he's like invincible in the previous DB chapters. 1-E is when he starts losing his powerful status. He's decent for the rest of the game till end game, but yeah he gets hit pretty badly unless you've given him some boosters or bexp. Which kinda hurts the rest of the DB as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You have to not be afraid to use Nailah and potentially let her get multiple kills. It's not too tough to run her up there quickly and take out a thief when they appear; if you can stop the one that gets the Reaper Card, just try going a little faster. You don't need Nailah to have Pass (I don't like to because that gives up a good skill for a large portion of the game), but it is helpful if you're willing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You have to not be afraid to use Nailah and potentially let her get multiple kills. It's not too tough to run her up there quickly and take out a thief when they appear; if you can stop the one that gets the Reaper Card, just try going a little faster. You don't need Nailah to have Pass (I don't like to because that gives up a good skill for a large portion of the game), but it is helpful if you're willing. Yeah this is the main reason that its not an easy choice to give her Pass. I usually do one of three things. Give it to Sothe, hand it to Ilyana to hand to the Mercs for lols or Nailah wrecks with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) You have to not be afraid to use Nailah and potentially let her get multiple kills. It's not too tough to run her up there quickly and take out a thief when they appear; if you can stop the one that gets the Reaper Card, just try going a little faster. You don't need Nailah to have Pass (I don't like to because that gives up a good skill for a large portion of the game), but it is helpful if you're willing. If you don't give Naliah pass, do you send her up the large staircase? She doesn't have a ranged attack to deal with the dudes blocking the ledges. I guess Sothe could throw knives, but his aim is usually bad when attacking ledges. Edited January 9, 2015 by Radiant head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You can send her right, or you can have someone like the Black Knight get rid of the enemies blocking her way in the middle. Rafiel helps with that a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You can send her right, or you can have someone like the Black Knight get rid of the enemies blocking her way in the middle. Rafiel helps with that a lot. Seconding this, although I tend to have the BK stay back and deal with the mage reinforcements. Because he's an exp sink but I like him doing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Yeah I have tried using BK to take the guards out, but I haven't used both him and Naliah in the same game because it would feel like hilarious overkill. Seconding this, although I tend to have the BK stay back and deal with the mage reinforcements. Because he's an exp sink but I like him doing something Ooh that's a good idea, though I don't have too much trouble with letting the mages catch up and destroying them with my mages. Edited January 9, 2015 by Radiant head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 If you're worried about losing Pass and don't want it on Nailah, you can give it to Sothe. He doesn't take as much penalty from ledges so he can get up there pretty easily. If you play your cards right, he can take out both thieves on his own, but you really need to keep an eye out on the upper enemies with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well Sothe didn't have Pass when I first tried this, but usually what happens is that as soon as Sothe kills one of the thieves, the other one is long gone and way closer to the next chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Actually you don't need to rush after the thieves. After they had plundered the chests, they run back to the entry area behind the second stairs (where the two myrmidon reinforcements appear). So you have enough time to catch them. When they come back, block the entry with any two units (the thiefs won't attack you). Steal with Sothe the things. Make sure he's a free slot in his inventory. With help by Rafiel he can steal two things in one turn. Edited January 9, 2015 by The Taninator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) For what it's worth I don't think Pass is a great loss. The GMs get another one courtesy of Heather and they will usually not need two. The DB can't do much with it in part 3 since they are forced on defense in 3-6 and 3-13, while you simply don't need it in 3-12. After that Nailah rejoins and you can reassign it. Edited January 10, 2015 by Mekkah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yeah I was going to say I'm not worried about losing Pass because of Heather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 If the thieves get the chests first I think you can have him steal the stuff from them, so you get it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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