Dragoncat Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yeah. I voted no because of how out of place it looks. There are no gryphons anywhere else in FE and nothing about where they came from. And, Cherche loves Minerva a lot. Why would she give her up for a gryphon? Why would anyone change the species of their mount all of a sudden? It makes no sense. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentacotus Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Never particulary cared for them never used them so I don't really know what skills or stats they contribute. In a nutshell, I couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 No, they're lame. Would rather have FE8's Wyvern Knights return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoleo21 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If there's a legit chapter for them to justify it this time. Eastern side gets Pegasi, Western Side gets Dragon knights and Gryphons can do whatever. More usable mythical units were interesting to me in awakening and I hope they expand on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside-DownFish Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 No, they're dumb and out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I voted "don't care", but if it does return hopefully it's with its own tree for the reasons you mentioned. Either way I'd prefer a new class for Wyvern Riders to promote to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter23 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Nope, never really liked them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I wouldn't mind Griffons if they got their own class tree and we got a bit more info on them. Otherwise, yeah, don't bring them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerene Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) I honestly thought that gryphon riders were their own class in Awakening... and then I found out it was a promote of the Wyvern Rider and I was just "HUH?" It doesn't make any sense; how does a wyvern rider transition to a gryphon rider? Even worse, gryphon's never really had an introduction or a place in FE history. It felt like some sort of cheap add-on. If they are going to bring the gryphon rider back, it needs to be its own class and have its own promotes. Maybe they can wield swords, since pegasus knights in Awakening (and in general) wield lances and wyvern riders wield axes? A new flying class would be nice... Edited January 18, 2015 by ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hong Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Get rid of them. While you're at it, give my Falcon Knight back her swords. If you want a poor Queen knock-off, make it its own class instead of trying to cram so much into the Falcon Knight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 They were executed terribly before. They were kind of out of place too, so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) If they are going to bring the gryphon rider back, it needs to be its own class and have its own promotes. Maybe they can wield swords, since pegasus knights in Awakening (and in general) wield lances and wyvern riders wield axes? A new flying class would be nice...This is a good idea.What would each of them specialize in though? Pegs should keep their magic classes IMO, so maybe Wyverns could be more focused on offense while Griffons are more defensive? Edited January 18, 2015 by Owain Dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeraldfox Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I voted Yes because I like them and Gryphon Rider Lon'qu is cool. Also, why is it weird for a Wyvern Rider to get a different animal? They got something different in Sacred Stones if you chose Wyvern Knight(it's an actual wyvern, Wyvern Riders/Lords ride dragons(maybe wyrms iunno)). Same for the Pegasus Knights in both Sacred Stones(if you so choose) and the Akanea games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiddon Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Hmmm, I'm trying to figure out some way to differentiate them; they were meant to be the balanced alternative to the speedy but weak and fragile Pegasus Knights and slow but tough and strong Wyvern Lords. It's like trying to make an aerial Mercenary class. Maybe they could also get a secondary weapon class like swords since in Awakening all they used were axes. Edited January 18, 2015 by Aiddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentacotus Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This is a good idea. What would each of them promote to though? Pegs should keep their magic classes IMO, so maybe Wyverns could be more focused on offense while Griffons are more defensive? How about air to air combat focused? Give them access to bows and swords. Swords would obviously counter axes and bows could be used for bonus damage vs other fliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 How about air to air combat focused? Give them access to bows and swords. Swords would obviously counter axes and bows could be used for bonus damage vs other fliers. I thought about bows but having a flier with bows might be a little OP haha, especially if they keep that skill that adds movement when paired up. And if they had access to Galeforce... Good lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Well, that's why me and many others want Galeforced nerfed or removed.Also, I like the idea of death from above with Bows + Fliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Deliverer is a great skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerene Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hmmm, I'm trying to figure out some way to differentiate them; they were meant to be the balanced alternative to the speedy but weak and fragile Pegasus Knights and slow but tough and strong Wyvern Lords. It's like trying to make an aerial Mercenary class. Maybe they could also get a secondary weapon class like swords since in Awakening all they used were axes. I think this pretty much sums up my viewpoint on how gryphon rider's should be developed, except have their base weapon be swords. For their promote, bows would be nice too, as TacoMan stated. To be honest, I don't think I've ever seen a flier with bows before... I thought about bows but having a flier with bows might be a little OP haha, especially if they keep that skill that adds movement when paired up. And if they had access to Galeforce... Good lord. I think any unit in general with Galeforce is pretty OP haha. Also, why is it weird for a Wyvern Rider to get a different animal? They got something different in Sacred Stones if you chose Wyvern Knight(it's an actual wyvern, Wyvern Riders/Lords ride dragons(maybe wyrms iunno)). Same for the Pegasus Knights in both Sacred Stones(if you so choose) and the Akanea games. It's more along the lines of gryphon riders not existing in FE lore and then suddenly appearing than flying classes getting different animals when promoted. Honestly, the introduction of gryphon riders was really sudden in FE13. As I said before, it felt like a cheap add-on. One minute they weren't there, next minute, bam! Gryphon riders! There is so much to be explained yet there's not even one mention in FE13 concerning gryphons. One would think that if you had lion-eagle hybrids roaming around, it would maybe play some part into the story (or maybe just appear in the story). Did they migrate to Chrom's world by some accident? Was it because of the OtherWorld gate? Or is it just a case of: "Yeah, they already exist in our world."? I hope if we do get gryphon riders again–whether as a new flying class or not–there is maybe at least some minor explanation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosabers Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I voted no, they really were just randomly there. I don' think any npc even says a thing about them. If they do return, make them sword users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentacotus Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Well, that's why me and many others want Galeforced nerfed or removed. Also, I like the idea of death from above with Bows + Fliers. Hell yeah they could be like the B-52's of Fire Emblem. Maybe they could even have a skill called Bombard which is like astra except with bows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosabers Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hell yeah they could be like the B-52's of Fire Emblem. Maybe they could even have a skill called Bombard which is like astra except with bows. Couldn't they just use astra? It works with every weapon, even tomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentacotus Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Couldn't they just use astra? It works with every weapon, even tomes. I guess but...bombard just sounds cool. I guess it could be slightly different in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerene Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hell yeah they could be like the B-52's of Fire Emblem. Maybe they could even have a skill called Bombard which is like astra except with bows. Not trying to rain on your parade but isn't there a bow called Astra with the astra skill? When I think of the word bombard... I think of Michael Bay explosions. So are we talking like fire-elemented attacks with a bow or something haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentacotus Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Not trying to rain on your parade but isn't there a bow called Astra with the astra skill? When I think of the word bombard... I think of Michael Bay explosions. So are we talking like fire-elemented attacks with a bow or something haha. There may very will be but I've never run into it. And sure I don't see why not or it could mean that they loose arrows with fire for added damage. Edited January 18, 2015 by TacoMan42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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