MisterIceTeaPeach Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 A tempest blade (weapon level S) is as powerful as Ragnell / Alondite. Though it has much less accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Actually, what I meant is that Ragnell is a two-handed sword and those things aren't exactly meant for fighting on horseback. While the gameplay mechanics say she can, I think this is a viable example of where gameplay and story segregation is valid. Conversely, unless I'm remembering wrong, there is no lore-reason why only Ike can use Ragnell, it's just that it's HIS sword in-game. Sort of like how Amiti is Elincia only despite no lore-based reason why Vika couldn't hold it and take a few swings with it. I doubt Vika could reliably hit anything with it and would certainly not be good with it, but I'm sure she could hold it and not suddenly impale herself or forget where the pointy end goes just because it's Elincia-only and Vika can't use swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think Amiti is canonically locked to Crimean royality, though I'm not 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Amiti is locked to Elincia. You can't take it out of her inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Amiti is locked to Elincia. You can't take it out of her inventory. I know that. I'm saying that this is an instance of story and gameplay segregation. There is no physical reason why another character couldn't use it, it's just a gameplay mechanic that stops it. Likewise, while Elincia can use Alondite in-game, in reality it would be a stupid idea for someone fighting from horseback for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think even story-wise, Renning is the only other person that can use Amiti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Actually, in RD, Amiti can be given to Renning. But he's the only other person that can use it. Makes sense, given that he's also a prince of Crimea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 It's locked to Elincia's inventory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 No, it's not. If Renning is able to use it, he's able to use it. Why would it be locked to Elincia's party if the game is coded to allow him to use it too? That's would just be entirely redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 So are you saying you were able to give Renning the Amiti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 No, I read online that he can be given Amiti. On the FE wiki. I never actually tried to give it to him, I felt like keeping it with Elincia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Playable characters who are capable of wielding the sword include Elincia, the princess of the deceased King Ramon and subsequent queen of the country, and Renning, Elincia's uncle. To this end, however, throughout the course of Radiant Dawn, it is impossible for Renning to equip Amiti, as it is firmly locked within Elincia's inventory. http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Amiti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) The end of that info must be incorrect. I say again, if Renning is capable of wielding it, why lock it to Elincia's inventory? It would be pointless. Edited February 22, 2015 by Anacybele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yeah it is pointless, but that's how it is. It's locked the same way Ragnell is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Well, that was kind of dumb for IS to do. The Amiti thing, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If I brought Renning into endgame, I'd probably bless the Brave Sword, and then he basically has his own Amiti. Would probably work well for the high str/low spd that Gold Knights tend to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Who even uses Renning anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I used him. Because I think he looks cool. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Renning's actually deceptively good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irysa Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I know that. I'm saying that this is an instance of story and gameplay segregation. There is no physical reason why another character couldn't use it, it's just a gameplay mechanic that stops it. Likewise, while Elincia can use Alondite in-game, in reality it would be a stupid idea for someone fighting from horseback for various reasons. Cue Mani Katti dialogue from FE7 Chapter 2 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Th strangest gameplay/story segregation is why Raginlief is locked to Ephraim. There's no indication that magic spirits are in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodiePichu Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 the best assumable reason for ephs prf weapon/rapiers in general, is that they require special training to wield that is usually only available to lords, but this is making an assumption at best. in game of path of radiance/radiant dawn aldonite and ragnell can technically be used by any old tom dick or harry, but ragnell is most likely locked to ike for gameplay reasons, though really who would let go of a powerful weapon like the ragnell. as for the one in 13 i would sya the ragnell there is actually a bullshit one, or a hell of a lot of time has passed and ragnell has lost its blessing (for whatever reason) or just gotten old enough to wear down any ways (given how ragnell is covered in cracks and now has finite uses ill go with it being stupidly old) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Good god I hope the third option doesn't happen that is just depressing as hell even for IS. You must realize that this is IS, where "Meteors fall, (Almost) everybody dies" was a thing. Also Tiltyu and Hilda. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 And didn't Sigurd get burned alive? And Ike watched both his parents die. IS is definitely no stranger to really depressing stuff. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Cue Mani Katti dialogue from FE7 Chapter 2 lol. Better explanation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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