Yojinbo Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 In which outdoor maps is Felgus actually better than Asvel? I'm giving you Ch.6, Ch.7 and Ch.13, everything else looks highly debatable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) In Ch.22 I always warp Asvel to kill Cohen, which causes Saias to retreat in the next turn and makes the chapter A LOT easier. It won't always work, but it's done on Turn 1 so you can safely restart. After that all you have to worry about is Rinehart because what the hell Great Shield on a Mage Knight. I don't think I've ever been able to kill Cohen with a physical unit. I think I did it once with Resire!Linoan. Edited March 6, 2015 by Jave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) In Ch.22 I always warp Asvel to kill Cohen, which causes Saias to retreat in the next turn and makes the chapter A LOT easier. It won't always work, but it's done on Turn 1 so you can safely restart. After that all you have to worry about is Rinehart because what the hell Great Shield on a Mage Knight. I don't think I've ever been able to kill Cohen with anyone else. cohen is a joke compared to the other bosses in chapter 22 Warp In designed Boss killer kill cowen lara dances safy sleuf or your warp bot warps in leif and sieze chapter all units with high attack power and 2 range can kill him all you have to worry about is big shield 20% activation chance Felgus has 2 higher move then asvel in outdoor maps horsey ETC. you are implying that asvel is going to use grafcalibur for all maps apart from boss killing its like a waste of its uses(stiff competetion for safy repair items) so he is going to use fire We are saying outdoor maps lets say he gained 3~5 levels in chapter 5(unlikely but an hypothesis) 5/-- 24.2 0.4 5.4 5.2 10.0 0.4 6.4 4.4 6.1 Would be asvels average stats his offence isnt Lol Amazing god without graf then and using it exessivly is stupid (safys repair isnt lasting forever) so asvels performance against felgus (assuming he got 4 levels at least until chapter 6) 7/-- 28.6 7.4 0.4 8.8 8.4 6.0 7.6 8.8 8.0 More in every single stat but mag (a stat that doesnt matter much anyway) even the avoid is simmilar so only edge asvel is getting is OHKO the boss with grafcalbur (every unit you got can defeat truman doe and its an escape map anyway) chapter 7 is the same chapter 8 edges out for felgus because rumei is a joke anyway you got othin who OHKOs a trained felgus ohkos shiva with edge OHKOs so asvels boss killing isnt notable 8x indoors asvel wins chapter 9 has rather equal performances but edgeing out felgus cuz mount hax but asvel can OHKO merlock with graf felgus isnt gurrenteed to ORKO or even 2RKO chapter 10 largo needs to be captured for knight proof(or stolen) so asvel boss killing is overkill all enemys at this point supporting karin is a thing I guess... edges out felgus chapter 11 equal performance 11x Indoors asvel wins but cant capture oltof so isnt that major win (oltof has libro you want libro) chapter 12 capturing salem colho can be thiefed or captured asvels boss killing is a giant deal especialy in LTC chapter 12x indoors asvel wins chapter 13 mount>non mount he can kill crist I guess (othin does the same finn does the same but finn has mount) chapter 14 asvel edges out winner its defend anyway 14x rather equal performance ch15 escape map but asvel can kill zile very reliably chapter16a felgus edges out captures kemph at this point chapter 16b lol forests everywhere asvel 17a so many leadership stars (Im still not on that chapter in my eyrios route im just finished 16a) 17b asvel edges out ill elaborate later as I have eh memory of that chapter but thats from my experience 18 indoor asvel wins 19 felgus just overkills mooks and asvel kills Wolf 20 capture bot to take tordo scroll 21 roughly the same both fraus and seim are not very difficult bosses but asvel kills them better 21x indoors 22 WARP SKIPPING (this is the only chapter that warp skipping is just like the only way it isnt hell) 23 alfan isnt hard or challenging its outdoors so felgus is just a tiny tiny tiny bit better sety starts existing 24 felgus has blaggi sword access and sety exists 24x all you do is kill mooks thieving and kia staff roughly the same 25 XDXXDXDXD GALZUS LINOAN SARAH M UP TINA GGG D;KLDSOKFHSDNKF;LSA SETY EXISTS EDIT:I feel like my bias towards mounts is making me oblivious to some thing but yea i can conclude that asvel is a better overall then felgus Edited March 6, 2015 by TTPK_Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momogeek2141 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 What stiff competition for repair? The only things you would ever want to repair are Grafcalibur and the thief staff, and MAYBE the Earth sword. Not to me ruin that Felgus's build is mediocre and not enough to capture many of the bosses you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 WARP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) What stiff competition for repair? The only things you would ever want to repair are Grafcalibur and the thief staff, and MAYBE the Earth sword. Not to me ruin that Felgus's build is mediocre and not enough to capture many of the bosses you mentioned. I implied a capture bot not felgus if I did imply felgus it was a mistake Puji if you didnt take extra puji route (hero lance but thats a stretch) You get more then enough warp staffs Edited March 6, 2015 by TTPK_Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 1st repair is typically used on the Ch.7 Warp Staff so the remaining uses are between Thief Staff, Pugi and Grafcalibur imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 1st repair is typically used on the Ch.7 Warp Staff so the remaining uses are between Thief Staff, Pugi and Grafcalibur imo. preety much but did you know that in the chapters that cyas is a boss at you get a warp staff itsw like the game incourages you to do something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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