Shadow Mir Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hey, it ain't like I'm gonna hold back on a secret character who I have to bust my ass to unlock, especially if they ain't worth the effort. But seriously, I don't see infinite durability as being nearly enough to make Naglfar anything other than an unusable pile of crap, given that it's still as heavy as Fenrir, and I consider any tomes above C rank not worth using unless they're long range tomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hey, it ain't like I'm gonna hold back on a secret character who I have to bust my ass to unlock, especially if they ain't worth the effort. But seriously, I don't see infinite durability as being nearly enough to make Naglfar anything other than an unusable pile of crap, given that it's still as heavy as Fenrir, and I consider any tomes above C rank not worth using unless they're long range tomes.In Sacred Stones, Fenrir and Gleipnir are it's only competitors. Naglfar is stronger than both and more accurate as well.Well, that's the nature of Dark Tomes. The only ones that are lightweight and usable are Flux and Luna. And then there was Apocalypse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) In Sacred Stones, Fenrir and Gleipnir are it's only competitors. Naglfar is stronger than both and more accurate as well. Well, that's the nature of Dark Tomes. The only ones that are lightweight and usable are Flux and Luna. And then there was Apocalypse. Well, I'd honestly rather attack twice with a weaker weapon than get one strike off with a heavy one, especially when said single strike likely won't even kill, and worse yet, runs the risk of getting its user doubled come Enemy Phase, which, needless to say, is no bueno when you're already fragile as is. Perhaps, but it's not as though the other magic types were significantly better off in that regard. Not that dark magic really has anything going for it in Sacred Stones, because Luna got nerfed to Hell... Edited October 1, 2015 by Levant Colthearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Emblem Fan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 *Has never even done Creature Campaign despite really wanting to get Lyon and despite playing through Sacred Stones a dozen times before, always just uses Luna because Luna* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Well, I'd honestly rather attack twice with a weaker weapon than get one strike off with a heavy one, especially when said single strike likely won't even kill, and worse yet, runs the risk of getting its user doubled come Enemy Phase, which, needless to say, is no bueno when you're already fragile as is. Perhaps, but it's not as though the other magic types were significantly better off in that regard. Not that dark magic really has anything going for it in Sacred Stones, because Luna got nerfed to Hell... The other magic types are lighter, and therefore weaker. While they can double more often, they don't always kill after doubling. Luna deserved that nerf IMO, it was ridiculous in FE7. *Looks at Canas currently winning the HnH and now jinxing it so that he'll be the next one to die.* Edited October 1, 2015 by Tragonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Julia 2 Salem 10 Ray 14 Sophia 11 Lucius 16 Canas 18 Renault 3 Athos 9 Artur 15 Knoll 11 Rhys 1 Oliver 14 Etzel 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) The other magic types are lighter, and therefore weaker. While they can double more often, they don't always kill after doubling. Luna deserved that nerf IMO, it was ridiculous in FE7. *Looks at Canas currently winning the HnH and now jinxing it so that he'll be the next one to die.* True. And I agree that Luna deserved the nerf. Still, we're talking about tomes that are so heavy that the user is rendered unable to double most anything (FFS, Fenrir and Naglfar reduce your AS by 10, and Gleipnir, as well as FE7's Gespenst, cuts it by 12. Not good.). Edited October 1, 2015 by Levant Colthearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Emblem Fan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 *Looks at Canas currently winning the HnH and now jinxing it so that he'll be the next one to die.* Noooo c'mon don't say that...someone I want to win is finally winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 True. And I agree that Luna deserved the nerf. Still, we're talking about tomes that are so heavy that the user is rendered unable to double most anything (FFS, Fenrir and Naglfar reduce your AS by 10, and Gleipnir, as well as FE7's Gespenst, cuts it by 12. Not good.).They were at least cool to see in the Link Arena. :PIn-game they were pretty bad, yeah. But I'm the type of the person that thinks that some weapons are too awesome to be used. That included the sacred weapons, so I never realistically tried to use them in the game anyway. Of course, there was the laughing stock that was Idun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 In-game they were pretty bad, yeah. But I'm the type of the person that thinks that some weapons are too awesome to be used. That included the sacred weapons, so I never realistically tried to use them in the game anyway. Of course, there was the laughing stock that was Idun. They were worse than bad - they were unusable. Anyways, I, too, am generally the person who falls victim to Too Awesome to Use, especially if the weapon in question is something that can't be replaced easily, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom037 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Noooo c'mon don't say that...someone I want to win is finally winning... Winning? He's destroying everyone except like Lucius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Winning? He's destroying everyone except like Lucius why are you so opposed to statistically superior characters having advantages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom037 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 why are you so opposed to statistically superior characters having advantages I believe "overrated" is the word you're looking for. I'm basing my votes mostly on personality anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I believe "overrated" is the word you're looking for. I'm basing my votes mostly on personality anyway. Then why aren't you upvoting Sophia?I always thought Renault had a pretty underdeveloped personality. Even if you find out all of his little secrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny_Manakete Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 But can Artur turn the tables?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Winning? He's destroying everyone except like Lucius I wouldn't really say that when Artur, Ray, and Oliver are also pretty close to him points wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom037 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I wouldn't really say that when Artur, Ray, and Oliver are also pretty close to him points wise. 4 points is a pretty decent margin imo, didn't realize Artur had 15 though. I also didn't know people liked Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopey Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Julia 0Salem 10Ray 14Sophia 9Lucius 16Canas 18Renault 3Athos 9Artur 15Knoll 12Rhys 2Oliver 14Etzel 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 "Destroying" isn't a word I'd synonymize with "having 3 or 4 more points than..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) "Destroying" isn't a word I'd synonymize with "having 3 or 4 more points than..." Ditto. 4 points is a pretty decent margin imo, didn't realize Artur had 15 though. I also didn't know people liked Ray Personally, you'd need to double that margin for me to say that someone's destroying. Edited October 1, 2015 by Levant Colthearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canas is back Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Salem 10Ray 14Sophia 9Lucius 16Canas 19Renault 3Athos 9Artur 15Knoll 13Rhys 0Oliver 12Etzel 12 I hope you don't mind me joining in despite my obvious bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llee1000 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 I hope you don't mind me joining in despite my obvious bias I just can't place my finger on who your bias is for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) 9 dead in less than 3 days... Wow, I feel like this HnH is progressing extremely fast. Edit: Damn it someone kill Renault so I can say 10. Edited October 1, 2015 by Tragonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny_Manakete Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Something isn't right here -_0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragonight Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Something isn't right here -_0 What is it? Don't tell me you can't handle seeing the beautiful Oliver hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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