Respite&Nepenthe Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) They should just 4Kids it. "Cammy must choose between long-lost brother Ryan and adoptive brother Max. Along the way, Cammy is joined by close allies Hannah, Tyler, Cassandra, Sally, Taquito, and many others as they fight against the evil King Gary." Wow. This is beautiful. On a more serious note, I hope they change Kamui...but...that's just personal preference. Don't like that name. I like Marx and Leon. Edited May 12, 2015 by Respite&Nepenthe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 ^^ i agree this is beautiful, but if this happens i will probably throw the game at the wall a few times (in the case though). Though quite frankly I don't see this happening, fire emblem has at (well at least recently) been a frequent user of meaningful names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 They should just 4Kids it. "Cammy must choose between long-lost brother Ryan and adoptive brother Max. Along the way, Cammy is joined by close allies Hannah, Tyler, Cassandra, Sally, Taquito, and many others as they fight against the evil King Gary." Lol, I legit died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I thought Nohr was supposed to be this very evil country. Would only be fitting to have one of the characters with the name of a very evil person, Marx. But then again, I don't think Nintendo of America approves of little children being exposed to communism. "Oh, I really like this Marx character, I want to look up pictures of him on the internet! Oops, I accidentally ordered the Communist Manifesto!"I think Kamui will be changed, because they're the character the player is supposed to identify with. The western audience can't have that, obviously. To be honest, I kinda have the feeling they'll change the Hoshido people's names to something more stereotypical Asian. Maybe more Chinese than Japanese? Either that, or they'll do the Lon'qu shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyea Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 There definitely will be some. There always is the one token name change. In awakening there were some that I liked better and some that I didn't like as much, but that's how it always is with translations. Seriously, though, who in NOA looked at Panne and said "You know what, I think her name, which means 'soft fur' makes too much sense. Let's change it to a word that means 'bread.'" Yeah, Panne is a type of velvet, so they did change her name, but they left the meaning the same. Which seems to be the case for Cordelia as well. It's always kind of a rough switch to start off, when a character's name is very different, but I get used to it eventually and usually forget the original name. I don't really mind them changing names around, and I do believe it's bound to happen, they've done a good job so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I thought Nohr was supposed to be this very evil country. Would only be fitting to have one of the characters with the name of a very evil person, Marx. But then again, I don't think Nintendo of America approves of little children being exposed to communism. "Oh, I really like this Marx character, I want to look up pictures of him on the internet! Oops, I accidentally ordered the Communist Manifesto!" I think Kamui will be changed, because they're the character the player is supposed to identify with. The western audience can't have that, obviously. To be honest, I kinda have the feeling they'll change the Hoshido people's names to something more stereotypical Asian. Maybe more Chinese than Japanese? Either that, or they'll do the Lon'qu shenanigans. Are you being ironic or sarcastic or did you just call Karl Marx a very evil person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Are you being ironic or sarcastic or did you just call Karl Marx a very evil person? It's really interesting to me, not being from the US, seeing how controversial the possibility of him being called Marx in localization is for some Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) To be honest, I kinda have the feeling they'll change the Hoshido people's names to something more stereotypical Asian. Maybe more Chinese than Japanese? Either that, or they'll do the Lon'qu shenanigans. What about Japanese isn't stereotypically Asian? While in general 'Chinese' might be the first thing that comes to the average American's mind when they think Asian, that isn't really the case with games made in Japan. Lon'qu/Say'ri/Yen'fay were made with some other language in mind (I'd say Chinese but the katakana versions of their names are iffy), but the Hoshidans' names and the overall Hoshido aesthetic are clearly based on Japan. On another note, can people think of many other American names that are commonly used for both genders? The only ones coming to my head so far are nicknames that could go either way, like Sam... Edited May 12, 2015 by Bovinian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) It's really interesting to me, not being from the US, seeing how controversial the possibility of him being called Marx in localization is for some Americans. yeah me too i find it quite strange, especially since some younger people might not even know who stalin is yet alone marx Im not american (eh) but my grade 9 sister didn't even know who stalin was. i think our board teaches it in grade 10 but by then you should be able to understand the difference or have the teacher mention the difference between communism the ideology and communism as used by soviet Russia,ect Edited May 12, 2015 by goodperson707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah, Marx was demonized a lot in the 50s, mostly because communists used his ideas. But just like Charles Darwin never actually supported the Theory of Evolution (the idea that men evolved from monkeys), just the theory that animals develop new traits through natural selection, people often incorrectly associate Marx with the Soveit Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 It's really interesting to me, not being from the US, seeing how controversial the possibility of him being called Marx in localization is for some Americans. Groucho and his brothers caused many deaths by laughs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Groucho and his brothers caused many deaths by laughs... this post man, that was quite well played.On a related note, i wonder if they will put a character named lennon in the game. Death to the Commie Mutant Traitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 They should just 4Kids it. "Cammy must choose between long-lost brother Ryan and adoptive brother Max. Along the way, Cammy is joined by close allies Hannah, Tyler, Cassandra, Sally, Taquito, and many others as they fight against the evil King Gary." One chapter needs to be Saving Private Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) On another note, can people think of many other American names that are commonly used for both genders? The only ones coming to my head so far are nicknames that could go either way, like Sam... alex can float as a name either way, even though it's nominally just a nickname; same for chris and sam, though sam is more of a nickname than the other two. awakening already did morgan and robin, two great ones. charlie and jessy are both legit names that can go both ways. jamie, too, also taylor... there's tooooooons EDIT: any of these besides maybe sam would not be out of place on a FE character's name plate; the nicknames aren't too nick-namey Edited May 12, 2015 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 ^I've never met/heard of a female named Charlie. o_O The rest of those though, yeah, I've seen go on both genders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) alex can float as a name either way, even though it's nominally just a nickname; same for chris and sam, though sam is more of a nickname than the other two. awakening already did morgan and robin, two great ones. charlie and jessy are both legit names that can go both ways. jamie, too, also taylor... there's tooooooons EDIT: any of these besides maybe sam would not be out of place on a FE character's name plate; the nicknames aren't too nick-namey Good point about Taylor, that's a good one I hadn't thought of. Jamie is alright as well. Jesse/Jessie is usually spelled differently depending on gender as far as I'm aware. Edited May 12, 2015 by Bovinian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Good point about Taylor, that's a good one I hadn't thought of. Jamie is alright as well. Jesse/Jessie is usually spelled differently depending on gender as far as I'm aware. Doesn't Terry counts too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sånıc Bÿm Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Kamui should be renamed to Gackt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKnight394 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The thing I've seen most people forget is the cut scenes. If a character is mentioned in a cut scene, their name has to have as many syllables as the Japanese name unless NoA decides to rework the cutscenes. That is why Lissa is called Lissa and not Liz- it would be awkward for Chrom to say "Liz" while his mouth was moving to say "Rizu." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcoknights Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Good point about Taylor, that's a good one I hadn't thought of. Jamie is alright as well. Jesse/Jessie is usually spelled differently depending on gender as far as I'm aware. although decidedly on more females than males, i have seen a few males named "ashley" before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) The thing I've seen most people forget is the cut scenes. If a character is mentioned in a cut scene, their name has to have as many syllables as the Japanese name unless NoA decides to rework the cutscenes. That is why Lissa is called Lissa and not Liz- it would be awkward for Chrom to say "Liz" while his mouth was moving to say "Rizu." And you're forgetting that Chrom, whose name is said aloud more often than Lissa's in the cutscenes, is three syllables in Japanese (kuromu) but was kept as a one-syllable English name nonetheless. Also, the Japanese 'zu' sound is spoken with hardly any lip movement so it really wouldn't look that strange. Edited May 12, 2015 by Bovinian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 ^I've never met/heard of a female named Charlie. o_O The rest of those though, yeah, I've seen go on both genders. I knew a girl in highschool named Charlie. As for other names, they could also use Ashley. But I think since Kamui is supposed to be Hoshidan they'll keep at the very least a Japanese-sounding name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I think Kamui should stay the same to reflect his not!Japanese origin. Giving him a western name would defeat the purpose of his character. Kamui is a real name, Reflet isn't and sounds awkward as a name so it's appropriate that it was changed. Is Kamui a real name? I've never heard it used as a name before, and Googling just turned up various fictional characters/spirits. I know roughly what the word translates as from Japanese, and can certainly see how that might be an appropriate name for the character... but that meaning will be lost on most non-Japanese speakers. So yeah, I'm betting it gets changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikaSamus Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 ^I've never met/heard of a female named Charlie. o_O The rest of those though, yeah, I've seen go on both genders. http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Luck_CharlieOnly female Charlie that I've heard of, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Is Kamui a real name? I've never heard it used as a name before, and Googling just turned up various fictional characters/spirits. I know roughly what the word translates as from Japanese, and can certainly see how that might be an appropriate name for the character... but that meaning will be lost on most non-Japanese speakers. So yeah, I'm betting it gets changed. It's rarely used as a name but it exists. It derived from an Ainu (people native to Japan's northern most islands and ethnically different to Japanese people) word that refers to various deities. They are similar to the 'Kami' of Japanese mythology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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