Kamui-of-Nohr Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I hope you aren't serious. Or do you want FE to die? SRPG as genre isn't as popular as other games in Nintendo franchises. I hope that Nintendo will never go Square Enix/Capcom/Sega route. *6 millions copies sold in first week. This game is failure!* Oh goodness, the cringe I had to suffer though when Square Enix said that Tomb Raider was a "failure". 8.5 million copies in a MONTH is not good for you SE? Just imagine the expectations they have for FFXV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflex Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 That story about Tomb Raider ended up being a scapegoat. Tomb Raider did fine (and they admitted it was doing great in their recent financial report), it was blamed a "failure" because at the time, FF14 1.0 was an absolute disaster and the japanese side blamed their western counterpart Eidos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverPants Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I'm kinda disappointed in the sales, was expecting at least 400k since there more 3DS owners in Japan now since Awakening. Did you hear about the shortages of this game in Japan. If I remember correctly, it was sold out in a lot of places. If Nintendo made more, they would have sold more. Pretty decent numbers I would say, Awakening might have to give up it's throne soon. I hope people in the west can look past all the "controversial" content, because of what I've played so far, this game is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflex Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The main reason why Americans are wary of Fate is because it's seperated into two versions and Nintendo has clearly not communicated that Birthright and Conquest are two, completely different yet full-featured games instead of Pokemon blue/red. They need to show a comparison gameplay trailer in their next Nintendo Direct of comparing the different maps or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenTheWitch Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Wow i cant say im surprised since i expected it but, wow! hopefully we get it localized soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It's funny to think that Fates already sold more than both Tellius games combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirokan Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) It's funny to think that Fates already sold more than both Tellius games combined. Did they really sell that little? : \ Suddenly knowing I may have a few copies of only 300,000 makes them feel all the more valuable xD Edited July 2, 2015 by Kirokan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fandangox Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It's funny to think that Fates already sold more than both Tellius games combined. It's not :c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Did they really sell that little? : \ Suddenly knowing I may have four copies of only 300,000 makes them feel all the more valuable xD Specifically I'm referring only to Japanese sales, but yes they were by far the worst performing games in the franchise. 20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light - ? / 329.000 14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden - ? / 325.000 21/01/94 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000 14/05/96 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story - 228.578 / 498.000 28/08/99 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - 30.104 / 158.695 29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword - 126.267 / 345.574 25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword - 109.429 / 265.286 07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 146.026 / 246.719 20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 100.357 / 156.413 22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 73.337 / 171.924 07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon - 147.704 / 252.309 15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow - 147.045 / 250.592 19/04/12 [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening - 262.399 / 469.485 26/06/15 [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom - 353.201 / NEW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) I don't think the Tellius games had as many copies to sell. Or nearly as much marketing. I hate when people shit on them just because of poor sales. They could've sold better if properly marketed and produced. And if PoR had been released at a better time. EDIT: That says that Thracia did the worst overall though. Edited July 2, 2015 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I don't think the Tellius games had as many copies to sell. Or nearly as much marketing. I hate when people shit on them just because of poor sales. They could've sold better if properly marketed and produced. And if PoR had been released at a better time. EDIT: That says that Thracia did the worst overall though. Path of Radiance was outsold by Thracia 776. There is no justifiable reason for that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Uh, 30 is not a bigger number than 100. Look at that list again. Also, I said OVERALL. RD still did better than Thracia. Edited July 2, 2015 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Uh, 30 is not a bigger number than 100. Look at that list again. Those are the 1st week sales, the numbers after the slash are the total sales . PoR Sold 100k first week and then another 56k over it's life span, Thracia 776 sold ~30k first week and then another 128k over it's life span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Aww, but Thracia was soooo good! I bet it was the extreme difficulty that turned people off. I love that gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Uh, 30 is not a bigger number than 100. Look at that list again. Also, I said OVERALL. RD still did better than Thracia. First row of numbers is it's debut week, second row of numbers are lifetime sales. PoR has the lowest in the franchise history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Uh, 30 is not a bigger number than 100. Look at that list again. Also, I said OVERALL. RD still did better than Thracia. You need to look at it again lol 28/08/99 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - 30.104 / 158.695 20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 100.357 / 156.413 Thracia 776 has higher lifetime sales than PoR. Edited July 2, 2015 by L95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirokan Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Specifically I'm referring only to Japanese sales, but yes they were by far the worst performing games in the franchise. 20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light - ? / 329.000 14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden - ? / 325.000 21/01/94 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000 14/05/96 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story - 228.578 / 498.000 28/08/99 [sFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - 30.104 / 158.695 29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword - 126.267 / 345.574 25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword - 109.429 / 265.286 07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 146.026 / 246.719 20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 100.357 / 156.413 22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 73.337 / 171.924 07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon - 147.704 / 252.309 15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow - 147.045 / 250.592 19/04/12 [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening - 262.399 / 469.485 26/06/15 [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom - 353.201 / NEW EDIT: Never mind, figured out its the First Week / Lifetime for Japanese market. Thanks for the info! I don't think the Tellius games had as many copies to sell. Or nearly as much marketing. I hate when people shit on them just because of poor sales. They could've sold better if properly marketed and produced. And if PoR had been released at a better time. EDIT: That says that Thracia did the worst overall though. I have not heard people hate on the based on sales alone, but that is unfortunate if so. Edited July 2, 2015 by Kirokan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Well, sorry for not knowing what exactly those other numbers meant. But yeah, people often say that a rerelease of Tellius would be a terrible idea because of how badly they sold. Even if it's just a download on the Wii U. But that was before FE got more popular and Ike became more well known. It doesn't make sense that they'd sell just as badly as before. Edited July 2, 2015 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflex Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Partly the reason why the Tellius saga sold poorly is because it was on consoles. Japanese console gaming has been on a huge decline for about a decade now, to the point that it is absolutely not smart to make a modern game to cater to the Japanese without thoughts on localizing outside, especially to PC like Steam. Mobile divisions and handhelds absolutely dominate the charts by a huge margin. This is also why a lot of games are being released on a shorter window between Japanese and English versions, along with Steam ports like the recent Tales of Symphonia PC port. The money isn't there for console games in Japan, if you want to make any profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The important point is that after some missteps, IS and Nintendo have been able to secure the future of the franchise. I think we can all agree that this is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Aww, but Thracia was soooo good! I bet it was the extreme difficulty that turned people off. I love that gem. It was launched in 2000. The N64 was on its' last legs. And Thracia was on the SNES. The reasons the Tellius duelogy didn't sell are several: Japan had already developed an affinity for handhelds, and they weren't advertised at all. Path of Radiance was a niche game launched at the end of the Gamecube's lifespan, and Radiant Dawn was given hell by critics for mostly stupid reasons (and the unfortuante localization screw-up involving difficulty names). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Stalker X Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 There's now more specific information on how well each version did. http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-fates-birthright-sells-a-bit-more-than-conquest-in-japan-90-sell-through/ From Media Create, Hoshido overall sold 154,000 copies, while Nohr overall sold 107,000 copies. Damn, I was hoping the difference between the two versions would've been smaller than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapbar Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) There's now more specific information on how well each version did. http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-fates-birthright-sells-a-bit-more-than-conquest-in-japan-90-sell-through/ From Media Create, Hoshido overall sold 154,000 copies, while Nohr overall sold 107,000 copies. Damn, I was hoping the difference between the two versions would've been smaller than this. I posted earlier in this thread that my predictions (which I made a thread about) were wrong but apparently reading through that was just Day 1 sales Now this happened and I was totally right and I'm going to rub it people's faces for 15 minutes before getting over myself Edited July 3, 2015 by Soapbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Nooooo.... Hoshido won out.... Not surprising given all the Nohr hate... Looks Hoshido/Awakening styled games is the path future Fire Emblem games will take now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Nooooo.... Hoshido won out.... Not surprising given all the Nohr hate... Looks Hoshido/Awakening styled games is the path future Fire Emblem games will take now. They both had somewhere between 90% and 100% sell through of initial stock which simply means they produced more copies of Hoshido than Nohr. The size of the gap makes me believe they produced those ~43k Special Editions in place of Nohr, probably assumed people more likely to want Nohr would get both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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