senketsu Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) I browsed a few topics but didn't see anything. For now I'm assuming it is like awakening in that as long as it doesn't have the same name it stacks (example rally skills). So does draconic curse and kuni debuff stack? How about snake venom and deadly breath? Side questions: Does draconic curse affect movement? Can snake venom and deadly breath kill, if so do you get exp? Thanks Edited July 12, 2015 by senketsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) "Poison" damage cannot kill. (100%) Poison Skills should stack I believe Draconic Curse doesn't affect movement (99.9% confident) The debuffs stack afaik (60-70% confident) Edited July 12, 2015 by CocoaGalaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senketsu Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Cool, thanks So glad poison skills don't kill [lot of wasted exp otherwise(some is still wasted just from hp loss to hits, but it is an aceptable loss]. Going to make avatar to be a debuffer so any weaker units can't fall behind. Skills: snake venom, deadly breath, draconic curse Not sure about the other two slots. Much appreciated Edited July 12, 2015 by senketsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Kunai debuffs don't stack, at least when they're from the same weapon. You can't get, say, Def/Res -12 from getting hit by kunai alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senketsu Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 I figured that kunai debuffs didn't stack with other kunai debuffs, I was meaning it stack with draconic curse or other debuffs. Anyways thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I figured that kunai debuffs didn't stack with other kunai debuffs, I was meaning it stack with draconic curse or other debuffs. Anyways thank you. Multiple debuffs will activate simultaneously however multiple debuffs to the same stat don't add together. The game just applies the larger debuff when two debuffs to the same stat are applied simultaneously or if the enemy already has a debuff to a stat a new one will override an existing smaller debuff with a larger one but will remain the same if it's lower. e.g. Asyura with Fight Dirty(-3 STR, - 3 SPD) wielding a Bronze Kunai ( -1 SKL, -1 SPD, -2 DEF, - 2 RES) would inflict (-3 STR, - 1 SKL, -3 SPD, -2 DEF, - 2 RES), the effects both activate but the overlapping speed debuffs only counts the -3. There is an exception though, atleast some of the Self-inflicted after battle debuffs like from the Silver Weapon stack so attacking a lot with the Silver Weapons will reduce STR/SKL significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 There is an exception though, atleast some of the Self-inflicted after battle debuffs like from the Silver Weapon stack so attacking a lot with the Silver Weapons will reduce STR/SKL significantly. I was told that was not the case (WRT silver debuffs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayra Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I was told that was not the case (WRT silver debuffs). Silver penalities stacks. I had an Oboro at -15 strength and skill at some point. However, silver penalties only apply if A) Your unit is the lead unit and B) Your unit actually hit something (If you are just being shot at and you can't counterattack, you take no silver penalities). I admit I never paid enough attention to notice if swinging and missing did give silver penalities however (I'll keep an eye out for that). Edited July 13, 2015 by Ayra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Silver penalities stacks. I had an Oboro at -15 strength and skill at some point. However, silver penalties only apply if A) Your unit is the lead unit and B) Your unit actually hit something (If you are just being shot at and you can't counterattack, you take no silver penalities). I admit I never paid enough attention to notice if swinging and missing did give silver penalities however (I'll keep an eye out for that). Dammit, I was told the opposite thing in that other thread... Thanks for clearing that up (I actually thought it worked that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Dammit, I was told the opposite thing in that other thread... Thanks for clearing that up (I actually thought it worked that way). Sorry for the misinformation in the other thread, I don't know how I missed that. To add further information, the amount of weapon swings doesn't have an effect on the debuff. So if you kill the enemy in one attack or two, it will always reduce your strength and skill by 2 points after the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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