ElectricGuy404 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Is her growths that bad or am I just unlucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 both (the former is the norm for most gen 1 units) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 She has a 16,5% chance to gain no stats upon a level-up, with her highest growth being HP (at 40). To cite a comparison, Paladin Jagen in Shadow Dragon has a 14,8% chance of an empty level-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Level ups in this game's first generation are bad in general, but I wouldn't worry about them that much tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricGuy404 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Wow.... Ethlin got no stats again at level 3. Jagen>Ethlyn(Jagen also can reclass to curate in shadow dragon lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) She has a 16,5% chance to gain no stats upon a level-up, with her highest growth being HP (at 40). To cite a comparison, Paladin Jagen in Shadow Dragon has a 14,8% chance of an empty level-up. Her HP growth's actually 60%, so it's not that unlikely. I'm too lazy to do the math but it's more like ~7.5% since her holy blood also boosts strength, skill and luck. Someone like Fury or Sylvia however... In the first generation, if you don't have major Holy Blood, you don't have good growths (with a few exceptions) Edited January 30, 2016 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Ostrich Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Yeah, Ethlin's stats go nowhere forever. It's okay though because she's wonderful anyway. 8 move >>>>> Aideen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Her HP growth's actually 60%, so it's not that unlikely. I'm too lazy to do the math but it's more like ~7.5% since her holy blood also boosts strength, skill and luck. Someone like Fury or Sylvia however... In the first generation, if you don't have major Holy Blood, you don't have good growths (with a few exceptions) Do the growths we have on-site not take holy blood into account then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Do the growths we have on-site not take holy blood into account then? I believe there's a toggle switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Yep, there is a switch. It's right above the list. Edited January 30, 2016 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter The Cool Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I don't think that miner holy blood gets growths. Its only major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Minor does indeed. Major just gives double the bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter The Cool Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Minor does indeed. Major just gives double the bonus. Really now? lol cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmola Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Honestly, i think that the "holy blood included" chart should be the default, precisely to avoid this sort of confusion. The only use of "holy blood not included" is to run growth calculations, and the child section has the growths already calculated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbalina's Revenge Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Is her growths that bad or am I just unlucky? Ethlyn is the queen of null level-ups. Though in every PT I've ever done Azel was close competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Although her growths really shouldn't be that bad. They are pretty much on the level of the other Cavaliers. Maybe it just leaves that impression because her class has such low bases. On the bright side, this also means that she gets a huge promotion bonus because she promotes into a class with proper base stats, Edited January 31, 2016 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Also a thing- the arena in FE4 has a limited amount of RNs that it keeps, so if you fight a bunch of battles in the arena with the same person consecutively without exiting the screen and coming back, you'll get blank levels. Probably not the case with Ethlin but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimeanRoyalKnight Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Also a thing- the arena in FE4 has a limited amount of RNs that it keeps, so if you fight a bunch of battles in the arena with the same person consecutively without exiting the screen and coming back, you'll get blank levels. Probably not the case with Ethlin but yeah. Nah I am sure this dude's case in not that, because I'm not sure if you can get Ethlyn to fight more than the first enemy in Chapter 1 Arena (at least the one that you get in the starting castle), plus that problem can be avoided by exiting and saving as soon as you're close to a level up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter The Cool Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Once my Ethlyn was really kick-ass. She got every stat for like 3 lv. She was god mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricGuy404 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Once my Ethlyn was really kick-ass. She got every stat for like 3 lv. She was god mod. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricGuy404 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ethlyn is the queen of null level-ups. Though in every PT I've ever done Azel was close competition. Lol. Azel got good levelups on my PT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Azel has good HP, Mag and Spd growth rates. Ethlin is mediocre all across the board though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushie Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Yeah with Ethlin you are either blessed with rng or screwed.... In one of my playthroughs she was AMAZING and got like 4-5 stats every time she leveled up. And then on another she got... nothing really. Azel's skill on the other hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugdral Defender Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Nah I am sure this dude's case in not that, because I'm not sure if you can get Ethlyn to fight more than the first enemy in Chapter 1 Arena (at least the one that you get in the starting castle), plus that problem can be avoided by exiting and saving as soon as you're close to a level up. That and if her first level up was in the prologue, there's no arena in the prologue. I agree with Crushie though, because my Ethlin is always great. Sometimes it's Cuan my RNG screws over badly. If you're having consistent trouble with level ups, you can always save state before a level up in case. If it turns out the level up sucked, just load state and have another unit move first and do something that will change the RNG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watrulugh Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Shes very eh, i had a good one but i'm probably just lucky. most the growth rates in fe4 are really eh or just bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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