Nintales Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 TEAM HORACE VS TEAM QUINTESSENCE UNIT CLASS HP ST MG SK SP LC DF RS HIT AVO CRIT EVD XANDER PALADIN 60 33 25 29 29 34 33 30 60 60 12 17 RYOMA SWORDMASTER 55 31 28 34 36 34 25 29 68 81 25 17 HINOKA SPEAR MASTER 60 35 24 32 33 29 29 31 62 64 24 24 CORN NOHR NOBLE 60 31 30 30 36 27 27 30 58 67 14 13 REINA MASTER NINJA 55 29 25 35 37 27 24 33 71 74 21 19 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AZURA KINSHI KNIGHT 50 27 26 34 34 34 22 31 68 68 15 17 ELISE STRATEGIST 45 24 36 26 32 34 22 33 56 65 11 17 XANDER PALADIN 60 33 25 29 29 34 33 30 60 60 12 17 CAMILLA WYVERN LORD 60 34 24 34 30 26 36 26 64 58 15 13 LEO SORCERER 50 23 37 26 27 26 29 35 57 53 21 18 Randomizer says Horace begins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Royals galore. And Reina as the odd one out. Edited March 27, 2016 by Levant Mir Celestia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Too lazy to calc things properly till Monday but silver shuriken Azura with Reina seems decent enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintales Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) VS Reina @ Silver Shuriken attacks Azura @ Dual Naginata! 20 dmg, 100% hit, 0% crit (17) REND HEAVEN Azura takes 33 damage! (17/50) Azura counters! 15 dmg, 74% hit, 0% crit (26) (100) Azura deals 15 damage! (40/55) Reina doubles! (29) REND HEAVEN AGAIN Aaaaaand Azura goes down. AND Reina activates MORBID CELEBRATION and gets back 11 health! (51/55) Her stats also lower due to the Silver Shuriken (-2 Str/Skl). HORACE QUINTESSENCE XANDER 60/60 AZURA 00/50 RYOMA 55/55 ELISE 45/45 HINOKA 60/60 XANDER 60/60 CORN 60/60 CAMILLA 60/60 REINA 51/55 (-2 Str, Skill) LEO 50/50 Edited March 28, 2016 by Nintales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 ^You need to note a stat drop of -2 Str and Skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Lol already dead. Xander Dual Katana Reina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintales Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) I'm in doubt. How does the weapon triangle work when you have WTD? Is it the agressor's weapon rank that affects you, or yours? Edited March 28, 2016 by Nintales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I'm in doubt. How does the weapon triangle work when you have WTD? Is it the agressor's weapon rank that affects you, or yours? It's the aggressor's weapon rank that matters when determining bonuses and penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yep. If someone with a B rank weapon rank attacks someone with an S rank weapon, you use the B rank weapon bonus. So when Xander attacks Reina he gets the A bonus (twice because of the Dual weapon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintales Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) TURN 1B VS Xander@Dual Katana attacks Reina@Silver Shuriken! 35 dmg, 96% hit, 0% crit (94) (97) (88) Reina takes 35 damage! (16/55) Reina counterattacks! 0 dmgx2, 76% hit, 10% crit (72) (97) (54) (19) Xander takes 0 damage! (7) (64) (23) (12) Xander takes 8 damage! (52/60) HORACE QUINTESSENCE XANDER 60/60 AZURA 00/50 RYOMA 55/55 ELISE 45/45 HINOKA 60/60 XANDER 52/60 (-4 spd, def, res) CORN 60/60 CAMILLA 60/60 REINA 16/55 (-4 Str, Skill) LEO 50/50 Horace's turn! Edited March 28, 2016 by Nintales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I thought Xander got A rank advantage amd Reina got S rank disadvantage. Also, I can't proc a single skill! Laaaame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Might as well do some scouting, let's Spy Shuriken Leo with Reina. That'd be silly if you took more damage at higher hit if you had a better weapon rank. EDIT: Actually Corn Dragon Spirit Camilla and get her aura out of here Edited March 28, 2016 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintales Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) btw I made a mistake in the calcs : Forgot to take into account Hinoka's passive for Reina. =( EDIT : And errrm Horace, Corn can't use the Dragon Spirit since his weapon rank as a Nohrian Noble is at B. I forgot that. If you want to change his 5th weapon in the PM you can, and you may change your attack. Edited March 28, 2016 by Nintales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 TWO MORE DAMAGE WORTH ITI'll go ahead and try to Dragon Spirit Camilla with Corn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Might as well do some scouting, let's Spy Shuriken Leo with Reina. That'd be silly if you took more damage at higher hit if you had a better weapon rank. EDIT: Actually Corn Dragon Spirit Camilla and get her aura out of here I mean, Xander gets +1 dmg and +15 hit (doubled) and Reina gets -2 dmg and -20 hit (doubled) according to: http://www.fireemblemwod.com/fe14/formulas.htmAlso Horse, Corn can't dragon because he has B rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) oh that would be an issue. No, Reina only gets -1 damage -15 hit because Xander only gets A rank bonuses defensively. I'll again say you don't get penalized for having a better weapon rank. You're interpreting the site wrong. Think about it this way: why would someone with an S rank in axes get penalized more for attacking unit with E sword than someone with E axes would? I'll uh, actually Dual Shuiriken Xander with Reina then. Edited March 29, 2016 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Oh ok. Makes sense when you put it that way. Let's go on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I guess it's not entirely wrong to say S-rank weapon users have more to lose when facing WTD, since said S-rank bonus is often the reason to use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I guess it's not entirely wrong to say S-rank weapon users have more to lose when facing WTD, since said S-rank bonus is often the reason to use them.Confirming what Horace says. Basically the WTA/WTD are subjected to the unit with the lowest weapon rank.Tested with Corrin facing Garon. Garon hit with debuff: 24*1.5+6*0.5 + 90 (wolfberg) + 15 (S axe) = 144 Corn avoid: 37*1.5+24*0.5 + 10 (Shadow Yato) = 77 Garon's hit against Corrin is 37%, which means: 144 - 77 = 67 67 - 15 (s rank loss) = 52 52 - ? = 37 ? = 15, which is WTD against A ranked unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Well yeah, it's been like that since Shadow Dragon, hasn't it? I mean that the units with the highest weapon rank have more to less when subjected to WTD, and since you pick them also because of their rank bonuses, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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