TLSothe Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 How fucking wonderful! ...This sucks.' discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 'Scuse the DP. http://news.aol.com/elections/article/ball...p;spid=29279720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I really thought we of all states would have a majority vote for 'no'. Oh well, at least it was close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 This pisses me off greatly. I am burning up with rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 prop 8????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 prop 8????????? A ban on Gay marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Why ban gay marriage? I bet their reasons are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 A ban on Gay marriage. We have gay marriage in Canada.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 ...This is total bullshit. You know I'm Bisexual, right? Well, that makes me touchy on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) Why ban gay marriage? I bet their reasons are stupid. The only reason that could possibly be considered valid is because it's against some people's religion. Edited November 6, 2008 by Fireman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 The only reason that could possible be considered valid is because it's against some people's religion. Religion and Politics should NEVER mix. Too many problems occur out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 This website is clearly biased, but it gives a very concise rundown of the justifications endorsed by at least some of the people who supported the amendment. Some peoples' religious perspectives, as stated by Fireman, most probably played a notable role in influencing votes. This is a bit of a tricky issue because marriage is not strictly a religious or a legal institution. I know that this isn't directly on topic, but I personally disliked the picture used in the linked to news article. I think it unlikely that the child in the picture understands the significance of the sign she's holding. Regardless of the position being supported. I consider that blatant extortion on behalf of her parents for the furthering of a political agenda, I believe her naivety is being exploited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 There is no rational reason for Prop 8 and Amendment 2 to have even been proposed, much less passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YokaiKnight Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm not too worried about Prop. 8 YET--it goes directly against a Supreme Court decision made in May legalizing gay marriage, and there are already lawsuits challenging the proposition. There's still a chance it'll be knocked down like it should be. Florida and Arizona's amendments, I'm not sure about because I don't know what the status of gay marriage was in those states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm not too worried about Prop. 8 YET--it goes directly against a Supreme Court decision made in May legalizing gay marriage, and there are already lawsuits challenging the proposition. There's still a chance it'll be knocked down like it should be.Florida and Arizona's amendments, I'm not sure about because I don't know what the status of gay marriage was in those states. Connecticut and Massachusetts are now the only two states in the U.S that allow gay couples to marry. As for Prop 8, I'm expecting to see it struck down fairly quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YokaiKnight Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 That still leaves 20 states undecided, on the "bright" side (assuming you're for gay marriage). 27 banned it before the elections, I believe, plus Florida & Arizona, and (for now) Cali. It's undecided in the remaining states, and most importantly, undecided at the federal level. I wonder if we can expect a Supreme Court ruling in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuukaruTora Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yeah, it is really strange how it passed. There's nothing wrong with gay people. I expected people to be a lot more sympathetic that this... I mean, how could you vote yes after hearing THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Oh boy, I just love taking people's human rights away. "Sorry, I don't think you're enough of a person anymore." Bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGV Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Religion and Politics should NEVER mix. Too many problems occur out of this. Try telling that to my parents. Separation of religion and law is unlearnable for them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Try telling that to my parents. Separation of religion and law is unlearnable for them.... I think a religion is only meant to be for an individual to follow not for the entire world to follow because this is impossible. When issue of morality arises then religion and politics should remain seperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 There is no rational reason for Prop 8 and Amendment 2 to have even been proposed, much less passed. This. They are the only props I voted on and I voted no on both. What really pisses me off is how much prop 2 won by. People just don't know what it really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 How come they didn't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Tyler Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm against gay marriage because of my religious views HOWEVER, as a human, I believe nobody should be deny to marry regardless of sexual preferences. Religion needs to mind its own business and let God judge people, not us follows of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What Snow_Storm said (I think). America is not a theocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yep, basically said. I'll add/rephrase a little here. Morals are subjective. What's right or wrong will change from person to person. Government in general is not based on morals, but on facts. Murder is against the law, not because it's necessarily immoral, but because a society can't operate with people killing each other left and right. Etc. On the other hand, the United States is a democracy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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