VincentASM Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) I realise it took some time, but it's here now : o As usual, please tell me if anything doesn't work correctly. I'll try and set up some regulations soon as well. Also, would somebody like to compile a "standard rules" of debating? Edited November 8, 2008 by VincentASM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 would somebody like to compile a "standard rules" of debating? I think Tino already did that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I think Tino already did that... Yeah, and it didn't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 Well, this time it's different, since we've got a board for "real" debates now ^^;;; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Maybe SS could. There's a chance that topic's still around... If all else fails, I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) Use averages when comparing stats. Don't flame. Edited November 8, 2008 by Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 Oh yeah, I'd prefer if an experienced debater could compile it ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Oh yeah, I'd prefer if an experienced debater could compile it ^^ I am not sure if I count in that, because it's been a long long time since I played FE, to be honest...Best bet would be Tino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Finally! I knew this day would come But I don't see the board though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 It's a subforum of the General FE board. At least, it's supposed to be : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 It's a subforum of the General FE board. At least, it's supposed to be : P I see it. Could it be your comp, or that you weren't looking there, Tashi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 It's a subforum of the General FE board. At least, it's supposed to be : P Oh I thought there's going to be multiple debate boards on each of the FE game like FEFF and FEP. Didn't look but I finally see it. I see it. Could it be your comp, or that you weren't looking there, Tashi? Why are you calling me by that name...? It's 安室 奈美恵 <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Why are you calling me by that name...? It's 安室 奈美恵 <_< What the fuck is 安室 奈美恵?! My computer doesn't TYPE in Japanese. so, it's Tash, or Gulcasa...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Also, I think the other debating topics in the FE games should be moved over at the Debate sub-forum too seeing as it's empty at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) I disagree with the last rule. Lords do indeed have advantages. And...? All units have advantages over each other. Why should this be any different? And they also have disadvantages (ex: set promotion). The only problem I can see with debating lords applies only to the main lord, and it's seizing. You would probably need to make a rule that says that seizing can't count for or against a unit. Otherwise you get into an argument over what exactly is being argued rather than an argument about the units in question. Like one side might say "X is the best unit in the game because he's needed to sieze. You can't even beat the chapter without him." Then the other might say "Seizing clears the map; it's not actually part of it. It's just like pressing start to begin the chapter." Or something like that. Edited November 8, 2008 by Reikken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 No but the thing is Lord's are requirement throughout the game anyways. So they shouldn't be talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hmm... I was thinking we might need to debate the rules first ^^;;; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 That doesn't have any bearing on how useful they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 The action "seizing" itself warrants no advantages. You can't go "you need Roy/Leaf/Hector/Ike to seize or else you won't ever advantage"...after all, they can seize even if you are not using them as a regular combat unit, since they are autofielded. However, if you do not use them as regular combat units, you run around with underleveled pieces of trash, and seizing will become much, much harder than if you had trained them. I don't think lords should be banned because of this per se, just that if you allow above argument, they pretty much count as top tiers. At least, I think Hector and Ike do. Leaf, Micaiah, Roy and friends are frail either way...but either way, it is very easy for them to pull this argument if they are in, say, Mid tier debates. SolidSense wrote a lot of cool stuff about judging FE debates, and I wrote a huge guide for the FEP site about getting into debating. Also, thanks for adding this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'm saying that they have to be used anyways. It's not an option. So there's no point to debate about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) That's not the reason stated in the rule you wrote... Anyway, almost every debate I've done is not about whether or not to use a unit. That's always up to the player's preference. It's about how useful a unit is. Edited November 8, 2008 by Reikken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 I don't know if this applies, but you may have to bring out a unit, but you don't have to use them in battle. For instance, you're forced to use Lyn a bit after her story, but I rarely ever Level her and I can get through the game, normally, fine. Anyway, I think it might be better to move discussion about the debate rules to a new topic : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I assumed you guys know seeing as you guys are the top debaters...<_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I assumed you guys know seeing as you guys are the top debaters...<_< What do you mean? know what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 :o! My suggestion came true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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