Subieko

What if you posted links to your own dropbox and also to wherever the creator has the file? That way as long as the creator's link is good people have access to the most up-to-date version, but if the link breaks at least some version of the file is still available via your dropbox. Just a thought...

I kind of feel like it's staring into my soul but that has some awesome factor. Etzel icon was more cute while this is more lulzy/creepy imo (also I always thought those were Canas icons! lol I forgot about Etzel)

Wow, I played astoundingly badly this game. Lol it was still pretty fun though and it had so many Pokemon roles, I can't even believe it

Wow, this is my first time getting killed in a mafia game, lol. Good luck Town!

Actually, I think your role would be worse for scum than for Town. Your role's results are public, so it's obvious the role exists as soon as you use it. And since it's a night role, it's not too hard to narrow down who it belongs to. So if you continually used it to, say, help scumbuddies get on the same stage as Town players they wanted to target or kill, you'd quickly be found out. It seems like negative utility for scum. That's actually part of the reason I think you're Town--I can't imagine your role as a scum role.

Dang, super majority happened before I woke up. Well...now I need to rethink some things.

@Marth, I feel like replying to your reply to me will get repetitious at this point; I've said my piece, I stand by it, and I should stop spamming up the thread, haha. Going to sleep now, hopefully Blitz will be around tomorrow.

Tables replaces Folgore Pink, who DID claim--as Sheik. The claim is in the thread way back on D1.

That theory sounds kind of far-fetched, though...the more simple explanation for the facts is that Prims is Town. Creating more and more complex theories to explain why he's scum doesn't make much sense. All right, here's my thoughts on your posts, it's a bit long though. You were pretty scummy on D1 but I dismissed it because you tend to be scummy on D1 as Town. After that, you didn't do much active scumhunting on D2. You voted Elieson, then gave up on that, voted Iris, gave up on that...basically not much conviction in your votes. You didn't discuss Proto aside from pushing for his claim, and then once you got it, saying he was probably Town. In fact, looking over your D2 posts, you didn't do much at all. You did say later that you trusted Proto and Psych, and then: There was no real reason for you to claim this at that point. You were not under suspicion and Psych's claim was enough to back Proto up since Psych was seen as pretty Town at the time. Your claim comes off as opportunistic. Pushing for Prims' claim, although the circumstances under which Prims had said it would be necessary had not happened. Town does not want people to start claiming for no reason, but scum does. And then when you couldn't get Prims to claim you went ahead and rolecopped him. Guess you really, really wanted to know what his role was. You had one minor vote for Iris earlier where you pressed her to give her opinions...and then you didn't mention her again until this post on the next day phase. And you even admit here that the suspicious behavior had been occuring since N1; why didn't you mention it before this post? You didn't even bring it up when you previously voted Iris. Then later you said this. Your suspicions of Iris have weakened quite a bit here; this post first says she suspicious but then says you're not sure. Then in your next post you switched over to a BBM vote. So your Iris suspicions were short-lived and pretty weak. If it should be easy to guess your role, that suggests that you intended people to figure it out. So why not just claim it and avoid all the confusion that followed over what it was? If you want to claim, claim, if you don't then don't, but don't do something like this that just creates confusion. And then you didn't post again until I mentioned I had thought you were a backup cop, at which point you agreed with that. Why didn't you respond to earlier posts about you being a universal backup? Why did you wait until my post to say anything? Makes me wonder if you hadn't thought of the backup cop bit and then seized on it when I posted it. I'm also not sure how much sense this makes as a role, since Kay's role said Dedede got the role PM by ordering his soldiers to steal it. He wasn't a detective. Also, this is another example of your piecemeal claim: first you posted a paraphrase claim, then your role PM, then hints about the upgrade, then you claimed you were now a rolecop, then you posted your new ability text, then finally you claimed you had lied about the text of your original role PM. Doing it bit by bit like this just creates more room for confusion and wastes time. The flavor about your ability doesn't have any secret info; once you claimed rolecop, why not post that at the same time? Why draw it out? It just wastes space, and also time. Having iso'd you more than once, I can say that until you specifically said you got your role Kay dying AND Strawman suggested you were universal backup, I never once thought you might be a rolecop. I'm not even sure what about your posts was meant to look rolecop-ish. Asking for Prims' claim just seemed scummy to me. Overall, you haven't done that much this game, aside from cause a ruckus on D1 and cause another ruckus D3 with your roleclaim. You haven't scumhunted much this phase, and D2 you made a few weak votes and claimed unnecessarily. So your play has not been that great overall, and your drawn-out claim hasn't been great either. Wrt to who I would have targeted in your place: someone whose claim I wanted to confirm. Eclipse would be a waste of time to rolecop, I would've gone with either Psych or SB, probably Psych.

It can, but as far as I know it's really uncommon. I don't remember any scum Watchers in any of the SF games I read, actually. And as I said in a post during N2, Prims and SB did not make sense as scumbuddies. SB was the main wagon earlier on, and Prims joined it without much of a fight once I pointed out that SB had had all of two posts that day, neither of which was useful. Why completely fail to defend SB and vote him then, only to suddenly leap into action later after his claim? Scum!Prims should have tried to get another wagon going earlier, when there was more time and it would have easier.

that doesn't make sense though, because my logic didn't rely on your role PM at all. I only thought you might be cop backup AFTER someone else said you were a universal backup (Strawman I think?) AND you said you got your power from Kay dying. If you hadn't mentioned Kay yourself, I would never have thought about her, because the penguin thing is so random and weird. I honestly would not have been able to guess what your night action would be from EITHER version of your role PM. Plus given that you didn't reveal this supposed original wording until just now, just as I said, the alteration was pretty pointless since you got figured out anyway. So, it was pointless lying to the Town, which is not Townie.

@Tables: so here is what I'm seeing in your post. 1. complain that someone who pressed you for information wasn't nice enough 2. discuss how stages worked in a previous game without really telling us anything we didn't already know 3. suggest that the Watcher might be scum, even though the Watcher's reports have been confirmed by two people, one of whom (Prims) is obvTown. SB is almost certainly a Watcher; scum!Watcher is possible but I don't see it as terribly likely compared to a backup rolecop claim that has several issues. I completely sympathize with how miserable it must be to catch up on a thread that's over 70 pages right now, but this post is still just fluff. I'm inclined to think you're Town because fakeclaiming Tracker seems like such a bad idea, but both you and FP have scummy posts. You mean when he was freaking the heck out trying to save the Watcher from being lynched? Yes, he did several whacky things like double fakeclaiming, but the goal was very Town and I find it hard to believe that scum would draw so much attention to themselves for the sole purpose of saving the Watcher when it's to their benefit for the Watcher to die. Even without Scorri's flip, Prims was pretty Townish end of D2. You say that you altered this bit because you thought it would be too obvious, but once you say your role has gained a new power and the only relevant thing in your role PM is a mention of an 'idol', neither version is really more subtle than the other. This alteration just seems so pointless that I can't understand why you made it. And pointless lying to the Town is not really a Townish thing to do.

Oh right...I thought it was half living players, woops. Well we're fine then! ##Unvote ##Vote: Marth I still want to hear from Blitz as well. But I'm okay with a lynch on any of Blitz, Marth, or Iris.

Well, it's not like they can't edit their fakeclaims if they want. I don't know if you remember since you were already dead, but in CP we totally ditched Iris' original fakeclaim and wrote her about three new ones later one. Situation changes, fakeclaims change with them, I guess. I think Marth is at 6 votes right now, and we have 15 living players, so 8 is majority? Anyway let's make sure not to put Marth at majority before Blitz shows up because I want to hear from him this phase.