MacLovin Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Arrives when good rod does, and even old rod, if we don't take rarity into account. 7.5/10 Pretty good, it's got surf/IB, Barrier, hydro pump, giga drain and some other cool moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 It's good to be a water-type for the late Kanto gyms, but if you want to be of use in the E4 you better have something else to offer besides being fast and having Surf for your STAB, such as another good STAB (ice or psychic preferably), a higher special attack stat or a chance to make yourself useful early on, which Tentacool does indeed have, and you could give it Water Pulse for a powerful early attack via that TM Misty gifts you. But once again, it lost its special attack in generation 2 and hasn't been doing good since then. For comparison's sake, Tentacool has a lower special attack than Gyarados, and Gyarados is capable of doing so many things Tentacool dreams it could perform at least half as well. It learns Surf and Cut though, but so can many other Pokemon. 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share Posted July 20, 2012 2 votes in two days? Whaaaaaat? Come on guys! We're not getting to the cool kids until we humour these crappy pokemon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 It's good to be a water-type for the late Kanto gyms, but if you want to be of use in the E4 you better have something else to offer besides being fast and having Surf for your STAB, such as another good STAB (ice or psychic preferably), a higher special attack stat or a chance to make yourself useful early on, which Tentacool does indeed have, and you could give it Water Pulse for a powerful early attack via that TM Misty gifts you. But once again, it lost its special attack in generation 2 and hasn't been doing good since then. For comparison's sake, Tentacool has a lower special attack than Gyarados, and Gyarados is capable of doing so many things Tentacool dreams it could perform at least half as well. It learns Surf and Cut though, but so can many other Pokemon. 5/10 Sigh... I'll make this my vote and tally. So Tentacool gets a 5.83. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) Day 31: Geodude/Graveler/Golem Edited July 21, 2012 by BigBangMeteor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) In the original RBY, Geodude (when caught at Mt Moon) took forever to finish battles without a STAB before learning Rock Throw. You can give it your Rock Tomb TM immediately now, since it's likely that nobody else will want it. Its movepool dynamically progresses naturally, using TMs and tutors, from Rock Tomb/Throw and Magnitude to Earthquake and Rock Slide, and it walls Surge completely while also contributing to beating Koga and Blaine. It's not as useful against the E4 but still walls particular Pokemon nicely, such as Aerodactyl and rival's Pidgeot. It doesn't need to be Golem to be effective thanks to its typing and good stats, but you're also not very likely to see it go first in battles unless it's overlevelled, so while it's reliable, it's certainly inefficient and you never know what statuses and debuffs it will contract before it delivers its next finishing blow. You're not really saved from statuses regardless of whether you go first or not in gen 3 though, what with those Pikachus carrying Static, but Graveler is the least secure due to its consistent failure to outspeed elementary threats. It also is no longer a good Pokemon to deal with Weezings and ghosts, making it less useful against the rockets, Koga and Agatha, a problem it shares with the other ground-types. 5/10 Edited July 21, 2012 by Espinosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Geodude is rock solid just like the rock solid pokemon trainer brock thus BROCK IS A ROCK 6/10 slow but magnitude is fun and is good against uhh koga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Solid mon with sp def/spd problems. 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Geodude is very niche. It has incredible defenses and HP, and can easily tank anything... as long as it doesn't have a type disadvantage, in which case have fun being OHKO'd. It also can't hit Koffings and Weezings for super effectiveness, which is annoying, and that's annoying considering how often they show up midgame. Also slow as all hell. 5.5/10 +1 bias 6.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 In the original RBY, Geodude (when caught at Mt Moon) took forever to finish battles without a STAB before learning Rock Throw. You can give it your Rock Tomb TM immediately now, since it's likely that nobody else will want it. Its movepool dynamically progresses naturally, using TMs and tutors, from Rock Tomb/Throw and Magnitude to Earthquake and Rock Slide, and it walls Surge completely while also contributing to beating Koga and Blaine. It's not as useful against the E4 but still walls particular Pokemon nicely, such as Aerodactyl and rival's Pidgeot. It doesn't need to be Golem to be effective thanks to its typing and good stats, but you're also not very likely to see it go first in battles unless it's overlevelled, so while it's reliable, it's certainly inefficient and you never know what statuses and debuffs it will contract before it delivers its next finishing blow. You're not really saved from statuses regardless of whether you go first or not in gen 3 though, what with those Pikachus carrying Static, but Graveler is the least secure due to its consistent failure to outspeed elementary threats. It also is no longer a good Pokemon to deal with Weezings and ghosts, making it less useful against the rockets, Koga and Agatha, a problem it shares with the other ground-types. 5/10 This, only with negative bias for 4/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 In the original RBY, Geodude (when caught at Mt Moon) took forever to finish battles without a STAB before learning Rock Throw. You can give it your Rock Tomb TM immediately now, since it's likely that nobody else will want it. Its movepool dynamically progresses naturally, using TMs and tutors, from Rock Tomb/Throw and Magnitude to Earthquake and Rock Slide, and it walls Surge completely while also contributing to beating Koga and Blaine. It's not as useful against the E4 but still walls particular Pokemon nicely, such as Aerodactyl and rival's Pidgeot. It doesn't need to be Golem to be effective thanks to its typing and good stats, but you're also not very likely to see it go first in battles unless it's overlevelled, so while it's reliable, it's certainly inefficient and you never know what statuses and debuffs it will contract before it delivers its next finishing blow. You're not really saved from statuses regardless of whether you go first or not in gen 3 though, what with those Pikachus carrying Static, but Graveler is the least secure due to its consistent failure to outspeed elementary threats. It also is no longer a good Pokemon to deal with Weezings and ghosts, making it less useful against the rockets, Koga and Agatha, a problem it shares with the other ground-types. 5/10 This is my vote, and so Geodude gets a 5.25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 Day 32: Ponyta/Rapidash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not available outside of the FR/LG-exclusive sidequest you're offered where you can sometimes find Rapidash evolved at a very competitive level. The sidequest only slows down your progress though it can be taken to... catch a Rapidash? I don't know. Rapidash is like an Arcanine without the availability, coverage and worse bases/lack of Intimidate. By the time it's available, all the bugs and grass-types have probably been burnt, leaving you with little reason to train this. Learns Bounce at lv. 50, but it's hard to say whether that makes it good against, say, Bruno. Can make use of the Sunny Day/Flamethrower/SolarBeam combo, which makes it decent against Lorelei. Rather poor as a mixed attacker with the lack of good coverage moves and disadvantageous stat distribution. 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not available outside of the FR/LG-exclusive sidequest you're offered where you can sometimes find Rapidash evolved at a very competitive level. The sidequest only slows down your progress though it can be taken to... catch a Rapidash? I don't know. Rapidash is like an Arcanine without the availability, coverage and worse bases/lack of Intimidate. By the time it's available, all the bugs and grass-types have probably been burnt, leaving you with little reason to train this. Learns Bounce at lv. 50, but it's hard to say whether that makes it good against, say, Bruno. Can make use of the Sunny Day/Flamethrower/SolarBeam combo, which makes it decent against Lorelei. Rather poor as a mixed attacker with the lack of good coverage moves and disadvantageous stat distribution. 4/10 Same, only 3/10 because really that late its just not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It's a shame that availability wrecked this Pokemon, since Rapidash has a somewhat neat moveset. Arcanine is better. 4/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 MLP! 6/10 Decent, but nothing special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 4.25 for Ponyta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Day 33: Slowpoke/Slowbro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not in FireRed, 0/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 You can catch Slowpokes up to L40 while surfing, thus you can evolve it instantly with a Rare Candy. Slowbro can get Surf, and learns Psychic naturally at L44. It will however appreciate TMs such as Calm Mind, Ice Beam and Flamethrower to work more effectively. Its bottom-low speed, sadly, means it won't be outspeeding anything ever, but it's got some bulk, and it has a good typing to take on the E4. Good against Sabrina unless you let her use Calm Mind one time too many. Also has an unnecessarily large physical TM movepool, which is probably not entirely irrelevant when you can relearn Curse? It gets Brick Break, EQ and Shadow Ball, which a whole lot of other Pokemon dream they could have. It's better with Calm Mind though. 6/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Slowbro is a bro, mate. Calm Mind Thunderbolt Surf Psychic? Tank-like. Unfortunately doesn't have Slack Off in this generation but I'll cut it some slack. Water/Psychic is a great type (shares with Starmie) and Slowbro is tank. 6.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Leafgreen is so pro, they have Starmie AND Slowpoke to help rape the second half of the game. 8/10. Only problem is it's speed, but it's pretty bulky anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 I totally did not forget about this thread. 6.83 for Slowpoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 Day 34: Magnemite/Magneton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 7/10 wORTH IT, BUT CRAP MOVEPOOL IS CRAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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