shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) But there's Stone Edge/Rock Slide what kind of Blaziken set runs Stone Edge I mean it's not as bad as Espinosa suggesting a Focus Sash just to be a contrarian, but seriously Edited November 7, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Even if this hypothetical blaziken is running stone miss/rock slide, Talonflame wouldn't care. Gale wings means it will be able to OHKO blakizen before it can even scratch it. It's like talonflame was created literally for countering blakizen. That's why Rotom-W + blaziken works so well. Rotom destroys talonflame and azumarill, which are blakizen's biggest fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What are everyone's standards when it comes to good IVs? Do you aim for 5 perfect IVs or just settle for "relatively superior" or "outstanding" and just perfect in Speed and whatever attacking stat(with a few exceptions) like I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What are everyone's standards when it comes to good IVs? Do you aim for 5 perfect IVs or just settle for "relatively superior" or "outstanding" and just perfect in Speed and whatever attacking stat(with a few exceptions) like I do? 5 perfect IVs all the time. I'm a lunatic =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What are everyone's standards when it comes to good IVs? Do you aim for 5 perfect IVs or just settle for "relatively superior" or "outstanding" and just perfect in Speed and whatever attacking stat(with a few exceptions) like I do? I usually try to get at least three perfect IVs in relevant stats, preferably four. Like, for one of my Mawile, I have 31/31/31/x/31/x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What are everyone's standards when it comes to good IVs? Do you aim for 5 perfect IVs or just settle for "relatively superior" or "outstanding" and just perfect in Speed and whatever attacking stat(with a few exceptions) like I do? I've been going for five, because I want to practice my breeding. The only exception is my Mawile, where I reasoned that there was no point in going for Sp.Atk and Speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And now I feel like a chump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylphid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I've been going for 5 IVs, but 10 hours of Dratini breeding made me rethink that. I might go for 3-4 IVs in future. Getting 5 IV Deino after less than 10 eggs felt good though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinumi Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I've been going for 5 IVs, but 10 hours of Dratini breeding made me rethink that. I might go for 3-4 IVs in future. Getting 5 IV Deino after less than 10 eggs felt good though I've bred Mawile for 4 days and still no 5 IV one so I just gave up on 5 IV Pokémon in general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Going for five IVs can be especially annoying if you're looking for a particular ability, as I found when breeding my Drilbur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The most I could ever tolerate breeding is three hours and that's pushing it. I'm just wondering if my "meh" IVs would hinder me in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The most I could ever tolerate breeding is three hours and that's pushing it. I'm just wondering if my "meh" IVs would hinder me in the long run. honestly just try to trade with a breeder save yourself the trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The most I could ever tolerate breeding is three hours and that's pushing it. I'm just wondering if my "meh" IVs would hinder me in the long run. You can get pokemon with 5 perfect IVs in less than 30 minutes. All you have to have is good parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Anybody want to have a battle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The most I could ever tolerate breeding is three hours and that's pushing it. I'm just wondering if my "meh" IVs would hinder me in the long run. My advice for making it a bit easier; once you start getting Pokémon with four IV, save them start offering them for trade. I've managed to get five IV Pokémon quickly by trading for Pokémon with four IVs, and then using them to breed. I got a five IV Togepi by trading for two Togetics. I've also got a breeding pair of Eevees through trade, and hopefully a second Charmander soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) By the way, if you really dislike breeding, try getting battle points and then trading them for perfect pokemon on gamefaqs boards. People there are crazy for BP items, and are willing to give perfect pokemon for them btw I'd just like to point out Pokemon breeding contains 100x more incest than FE4 bye True. Edited November 7, 2013 by Nobody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 btw I'd just like to point out Pokemon breeding contains 100x more incest than FE4 bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 But would it really hinder me? Based on an IV calculator, my Pokemon generally have 2 31 IVs (always 31 speed btw) with the other stats hovering around the 25-30 area. Are those few points going to hinder me in the long run? It's true that once you get good IVed Pokemon, breeding becomes so much easier. (I got some perfect IV Pokemon back in Heartgold that will definitely be useful when Pokebank comes out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 But would it really hinder me? Based on an IV calculator, my Pokemon generally have 2 31 IVs (always 31 speed btw) with the other stats hovering around the 25-30 area. Are those few points going to hinder me in the long run? It's true that once you get good IVed Pokemon, breeding becomes so much easier. (I got some perfect IV Pokemon back in Heartgold that will definitely be useful when Pokebank comes out). Yes, it's true. Once you have pokemon with good IVs, it becomes easier to breed perfect pokemon. If you have two parents with 4 perfect IVs, you have a 1/24 probability of generating a perfect pokemon (as long as two of the parents perfect IVs are different). Also, If you have a perfect father of the same egg group, it becomes really easy. I used my perfect gengar to breed a perfect ralts, and it took me 5 eggs in order to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Very well. I'll just stop being lazy and work harder with my breeding. Power Items seem real dodgy lately. They sometimes fail to pass the relevant stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Very well. I'll just stop being lazy and work harder with my breeding. Power Items seem real dodgy lately. They sometimes fail to pass the relevant stat. I always use the destiny knot + everstone. When the parents have good IVs, they're much more useful than the power items. Also, in my experience, the power items don't stack. If you put two of them in the parents, only one of them will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) I always use the destiny knot + everstone. When the parents have good IVs, they're much more useful than the power items. Also, in my experience, the power items don't stack. If you put two of them in the parents, only one of them will work. If what you say is true, then my entire breeding strategy has been revolutionized and I am an idiot. Edit: FUCK! You're right! I spent FIVE YEARS breeding with 2 power items without realizing this. GAAHH! I'm gonna go lie down... Edit 2: I finally got my first 5 IV Pokemon. Was it worth the reality that I spent 5 years living a lie? Edited November 8, 2013 by Spaceman Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssassinSevera Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Anybody online want to have a battle? I'm in the mood for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Lightning Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Anyone around for a 2 vs 2? I need a pick me up after my terrible performance not too long ago, and multi battles are always fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuxSpes Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'm up for a battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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