Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 actually there's no advantage to me withholding my claim at this point, so I'm the town roleblocker. I targeted Dragonite N1 and Fluffy N2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Basically, if my action succeeded, I wouldn't be surprised if Fluffy went on the NK since he was the most expendable. But Beethoven crumbed pretty hard that he was going to jail me, so IDK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizen Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Beethoven should claim fully too although I think it's obvious what his role is... There's a couple of possibilities as to why there might be LYLO at 7. One is a cult, which could work I guess, but then why isn't the game over? Are there exactly two recruits but no more? There could also be an arsonist who has primed 2 people, maybe we're at 4/2/1 (or 5/2, lol) with 2 primed townies. Anyway, I'm town Doctor. I protected IT both nights, although according to Beethoven I didn't protect him N1. That was the source of the unexplained townread though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 al;kdfagjklj;afjklafjklafk;af I'm going to have dinner, maybe drink some tea, and think about all these claims. In that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Grillmaster, why IT? IT, why Dragonite N1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I blocked Dragonite because I suspected him the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Unless Hot Wheels or Reinbach is protective then Beethoven is very likely legitimate and the source of the N1 no-kill, assuming we aren't just in a cult situation (and I think cult spec is pretty silly to be honest). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Actually, shit. If there were 3 scum, we'd have been in MYLO on Day 2, because a mislynch + a successful kill would've resulted in a scum win. Maybe this really is a cult set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Might Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I'm just miller so uh we have a hooker, a jailkeeper, and a doctor in terms of roles that could have blocked a kill. except the jailer blocked the doctor n1 and the hooker targeted confirmed town. >_> beethoven whom did you target n2? insane do you think that grillmaster is scum or that scum tried to kill grillmaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 That leaves Grillmaster explaining why he targeted IT on Night 1. He says "that's the reason for the unexplained IT Town read," but why did you (try to) protect IT in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 If we're in cult then Hot Wheels is my #1 choice for the leader, based on the miller claim + never being targeted despite general obvtowniness + being the first person to think of cult. I'd also bet on Reinbach and Beethoven being his recruits. Cut: At this point I'm not even confident scum has a kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 actually never being targeted doesn't mean anything since obviously there'd be no scum if there were cult man idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizen Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Grillmaster, why IT? Uh, N1 it was because I thought that, among people who seemed pretty townie, IT was the one who the people I was scumreading would want to kill. I don't remember exactly what made me think that, though. N2 it was because my N1 action led to no-kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Might Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 well, if grillmaster is legit then no mafia doesn't make sense. unless this is just manix throwing in a doctor to stop rolespec. ugh this is totally something he'd do because he talks about how people shouldnt rolespec after like every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Assuming scum can kill, then tbh most realistic possibility is that Grillmaster really was scum sent on the kill, and claimed he protected me over the people who drew no heat whatsoever (Beethoven, Reinbach) because he didn't want to clear them/wanted to buddy up to me. But I don't want my town reads to be wrong ;_; aaaaalternately Hot Wheels could be actually be scum, but even then I don't think he'd make the kill since nobody really listened to Grill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Jailer, hooker, and doctor sound like an awful lot of protection for a 9-p game ... >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Was writing this before Grill's post, gonna finish anyway. Regarding Grill choosing IT on N1: I mean, this post: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=44441&page=5#entry2768300 It's not too long before the deadline, and Grillmaster goes the mile to clarify he prefers a Dragonite or IT lynch over an Iketani or Fluffy Platypus lynch. So at the time of that post, he thought Dragonite =(?)= Insane Techniques >> Iketani =(?)= Fluffy Platypus I just noted him actually voting Iketani: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=44441&page=5#entry2768414 Is just a "not me over me" vote apparently since he says he'd turbo-lynch Dragonite if people were willing. The priority becomes: Dragonite >> Insane Techniques >> Iketani =(?)= Fluffy Platypus So... why did you suddenly consider Insane Techniques the most Townie when nightfall came? What changed between that post and the actual lynch that made you think Insane Techniques was Town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemu Kurotsuchi Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Never fear, I have arrived to save you all from your no doubt obvious incompetence! Listen closely to my claim, for I shall only utter it once. I am the amazing, magnificent, one and only scum rolecop! Waitdammitletmetrythatagain. *ahem* ListencloselytoclaimIshallonceblablaoneandonly town rolecop! Now for my actions, which are better than your actions simply by the virtue of them being MY actions. N1: Targetted Drugknight, his list post rubbed me the wrong way, the ingrate. N2: Targetted Master Chef, his claim is 100% true UNLESS he and Shiki are a scum team, then she could've framed I suppose. I'm inclined to take him at his word for now. I'd also bet on Reinbach and Beethoven being his recruits. Schtolteheim Reinbach III bows to no manner of man, woman, or beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Might Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 ugh I kind of just want to lynch fluffy on general scumminess + being jailkeeper target on n2 also I kind of have a gut feeling that this is like a 9p super role madness game I saw once where the rules confirmed at least one vanilla town and then there was exactly one vanilla town and they were basically like modconfirmed town once people figured that out. sb played in this game so I think it's entirely possible that dragonite was legit the only vanilla. blargh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 if we're to approach this on rolespec alone and assume there really is a scumteam with a kill, tracker/hooker/jk makes more sense than tracker/jk/doc but we dont actually know what's causing the *YLO :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Cut by rolecop claim wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Might Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 so we don't have a cop >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cú Chulainn Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I also consider it highly unlikely I can be a Jailer alongside a Doctor and Roleblocker. I didn't target Fluffy. I targeted Insane Techniques. I soft-crumbed that when I said he'd play second violin and Grillmaster was first violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Might Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 sorry I meant hooker target reinbach why did you vote dragonite on d2 after inspecting him as vanilla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Nijika Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 N2: Targetted Master Chef, his claim is 100% true UNLESS he and Shiki are a scum team, then she could've framed I suppose. I'm inclined to take him at his word for now. So you targeted Grillmaster and he really is doctor is what you're saying. I hit Hot Wheels with a scum forecaster (because who the fuck uses forecaster except Prims in large games?) suit on N2. fkljfiopjaffajopifaijopaffijofaopijaf this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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