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@Refa:

1. Technically full blown legit Survivors (who literally have the wincon to be the last one standing aside from all town or all scum remaining) don't have to align with town and/or scum to win; all they have to do is play the game. In fact, more often than not, they'll play just like a townie would, to fly under the radar of everyone else and focus on not sticking out as an ITP. A strict alliance isn't needed, town or Mafia, in order to secure a win. (Yes, 'scum hunting' to blend in with townies can effectively be aligning with town, but it doesn't guarantee that they're rolling with the interests of the townies and/or mafia in mind; they'll do almost anything to survive, whether it means meddling with scum NK's, guiding mislynches amongst the townies, or doing a mix of screwing with both parties.) Assuming that they must bind to either town or scum in every game, I find is inaccurate, as they exist solely for themselves.

2. I'm willing to concede that experience doesn't mean people can't mess up. But the sheer amount of waffling/posting, to me at least, seems pretty hard to believe as just 'flopping around in ED1', and the fact that he doesn't really catch/fix it either, is what's pinging me a bit.

Also, what a way to tease us with claiming/crumbling role info like that. You're almost as bad as SB, geez. ;/

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Why? Also what claim did you make?

For all intents and purposes I claimed fuck all.

He claimed that "awesome things happen" once Junpei targets him. He's asking for the Junpei role to target him, though we haven't seen any evidence as to whether this is good or bad for town.

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Also I haven't said much about my vote since the person in question hasn't done much, but what does everyone think of Breezy? I dunno, I'm more bothered by him than the rest of the playerbase personally. Just comes across as coasting scum to me.

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Like I don't get how people can complain that SkypeSniper and Kopfjager are barely doing anything when compared to him. ;\

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Also I haven't said much about my vote since the person in question hasn't done much, but what does everyone think of Breezy? I dunno, I'm more bothered by him than the rest of the playerbase personally. Just comes across as coasting scum to me.

I, personally, am not a big fan. His comments about the vote-switcher are suspicious, but how much credence do they have...? Sky_Paladin's aggression and strange statements seem much more frightening.

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He claimed that "awesome things happen" once Junpei targets him. He's asking for the Junpei role to target him, though we haven't seen any evidence as to whether this is good or bad for town.

Agreed on the bolded notion.

So we could let him prove his role/whatever he's claiming N1, so long as whoever's Junpei targets him (Though I don't know if Junpei has to use something specific on him? I'm wondering if it entails a specific item or ability.), and if it flips as Refa either lying to us or being a high detriment to town, then I'd say we nail him for D2 lynch. [Which lets us focus on someone else this day phase- probably Sky (or Kop/Wen, but that's just me.)]

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I guess? I mean I've seen people complain about like town!kirsche doing the same thing. I don't really like to link aggression to scumminess, especially on D1 where it benefits scum to be more passive than aggressive. I think I've said this before, but actually I find that more often than not points to town. Like yeah he's aggressive and has unpopular opinions, but really where's the scum benefit in either of those things?

Also *sigh*, just...ignore everything I said about Junpei. Apparently it got removed. :(

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I guess? I mean I've seen people complain about like town!kirsche doing the same thing. I don't really like to link aggression to scumminess, especially on D1 where it benefits scum to be more passive than aggressive. I think I've said this before, but actually I find that more often than not points to town. Like yeah he's aggressive and has unpopular opinions, but really where's the scum benefit in either of those things?

Also *sigh*, just...ignore everything I said about Junpei. Apparently it got removed. :(

Apparently what got removed? That part of your role...?

Seems very strange, but not necessarily wrong. Officially requesting any and all information the mod is willing to provide about the adjustment to be done now.

Remind me, everyone: how long do we have left toDay?

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I'm not bothered by Breezy much, actually. The five votes that were placed upon him by the votal influencer makes me think that he's not someone who's a threat to town.

I looked up P3 stuff, and I think it's moderately safe to encourage whoever is Junpei to go ahead and target Refa.

Spoilers for P3 follow:

Apparently, Junpei is killed by the character that FFM was, but the character who I think Refa is ends up reviving and empowering him. So my guess is that the result of this is to give Junpei some sort of BPV/refreshed ability.

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So me and Green Poet both agree that it might be that girl. If so Refa is third party or may become third party as that girl was scum but then became independent. I think for Refa to win Junpei has to target him or else he cannot win.

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Seems very strange, but not necessarily wrong. Officially requesting any and all information the mod is willing to provide about the adjustment to be done now.

:Kappa:

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I'm not bothered by Breezy much, actually. The five votes that were placed upon him by the votal influencer makes me think that he's not someone who's a threat to town.

I looked up P3 stuff, and I think it's moderately safe to encourage whoever is Junpei to go ahead and target Refa.

Spoilers for P3 follow:

Apparently, Junpei is killed by the character that FFM was, but the character who I think Refa is ends up reviving and empowering him. So my guess is that the result of this is to give Junpei some sort of BPV/refreshed ability.

I wasn't aware that Breezy got targeted by the vote influencer. Did anyone else get rolled on by that player?

So me and Green Poet both agree that it might be that girl. If so Refa is third party or may become third party as that girl was scum but then became independent. I think for Refa to win Junpei has to target him or else he cannot win.

If Refa was unable to fulfill a win condition, standard practice would be to remove him from the game, as he'd be casting votes and making reads with no reason to do anything in particular.

:Kappa:

C-can we at least get a vote total...?

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>.<

I think for Refa to win Junpei has to target him or else he cannot win.

Yeah, this sounds likely. Now that this dynamic has been removed, though (presumably because FFM died)... I really don't know what Refa's alignment could be. It's just dependent on how this game's makers decided to interpret Yoshino's personal affiliation.

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C-can we at least get a vote total...?

I'll provide votals in a bit.

Also, any more flavourspec will result in modkills. Kindly shut up about it.

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At this point, I'm just purely going off of what I'm seeing posted in-game. I teeeeeeeeechnically have little to no clue about the Persona series, let alone P3, so flavors kinda don't do anything for me. Herpaderp. >_>;;

Whatever the case, WRT Refa: Doesn't really change my stance on him much. Still warrants some suspect/watch, but otherwise not the highest priority atm.

@Junko: Informed Observer, I believe?

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