Wen Yang Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Drafting: 1. This draft is for 6 players. 2.Units free for everyone: Marth, Jeigan, Feena, Arran (FE12 only), MU(See Twist, point 4), Xane, Rickard, Nagi. Julian is free for Chapter 6 FE11 for the purpose of unlocking rickard's Door ONLY. Palla is free for Chapter 3 FE12. Ogma/Sirius/Yubello/Yumina are free for Chapter 4 FE12. Navarre is free for Chapter 7 FE12. Merric is free for Chapter 10 FE12. Sisters are free for Chapter 24 FE12, Julian/Minerva/Merric/Sirius are free for Chapter 24 ONLY for recruiting the sisters. You can use whoever you want in the Prologue, but if you drafted any usable prologue units, you MUST use them. 3. The game will be played on Hard (H1) in both games. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, visit houses, trade, find hidden items, and shop. (FE11 only) They may also meatshield without weapons and die. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to opening chests/doors. 3. True ending must be acquired. 4. You are free to reclass undrafted units to whatever you want. 5. Prologue Turn counts do not count into your total turn count. 6. All Gaidens are mandatory. (FE11) Gaiden turn count is free up to 20 turns. (FE12) Gaiden turn counts are counted. 7. Usage of Base Arena is ALLOWED... as long as your money holds that is. Other: 1. Wi-Fi Shop/Rainbow Potions/Clock Bonus/Lunatic Stat Boosters are strictly prohibited. 2. Forges are only allowed of Iron weapons, throwing weapons (FE12 only) and the Fire and Thunder tome and to +/- 3 MT, +/-15 Hit , +/- Wt, and +/-9 Crit. Please indicate when and how much you forge a weapon (Ex. Forged a lance for Vyland called Awful with +3 MT and -3 WT). 3. If you cannot reclass to your chosen class because that spot is being taken by an undrafted or generic unit, you must reclass the undrafted or generic unit to something else to allow your drafted unit to use that class (so you can't weasel your way out of having a dark mage). Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter. 2. Using a unit in a class other than its Chosen class (after reclassing is available for that unit) has a 44 turn penalty (as in, don't do it). 3. NOT recruiting a drafted unit has a 44 turn penalty (as in, get them all). Free units are considered drafted for these rules. 4. Losing drafted unit (death in combat) has a 22 turn penalty. You may however keep undesired drafted units on the bench. Free units are considered drafted for these rules. 5. Warp-Skipping is NOT allowed. The Warp staff may be used for other purposes though. This means that the Warp staff may not be used for: 1. Warping Marth. 2. Warping a unit that can use Rescue Staff to rescue Marth. 3. Be used as part of a Rescue-chain. 4. Warping Feena to Dance Marth/a Rescue staff user who will rescue Marth. 5. Warping ANYONE in FE11 Endgame. Break this rule and take a 400 turn penalty. 6. The Again Staff may not be used on Marth. Break this rule and take a 400 turn penalty. Twist: 1. When you get a turn to pick, you will first pick a unit for yourself, and then pick a second unit for the person next in line. In essence, half of each person's team will be determined by SOYO-style drafts while the other half are that person's own picks. (Since we use the usual snake-style 1234554321 picking order, the people who picks twice in a row will first pick a unit for the person on the other end of the order, then the one going after them. So for example player 5 will first pick a unit for him/herself, then a unit for player 1, then another for him/herself, then another for player 4.) The last round of picks will be a regular draft however, due to the number of draftable characters available. *The order for the SOYO picks is 23451 and then 43215 on the other direction. The drafting is the usual snake style of 1234554321. 2. When you choose/are given a unit, you must decide which unpromoted class they will have, and which promoted class they will have. The Unit may not be reclassed into any other class than the chosen classes. You may choose a different class set for each game if the character shows up in both games. 3. Each player has a Wild Card. The Effect of the wild card allows the player to make an extra round of picks right then and there. This Wild card can only be used after a player has made their SECOND pick. When you use a wild card, you do not get a SOYO pick. 4. MU is allowed for use, but is limited to Curate/Cleric/Bishop/Mage/Sage/Archer/Sniper classes only. 5. Samson and Arran may not be in the same team. Reclassing: So to be more specific each player may have at most one of each of: Unpromoted: Female/Class A: Archer: Cavalier: Pegasus Knight: Mage: Cleric: Mrymidon: Class B: Fighter: Pirate: Hunter: Mercenary: Knight: Dark Mage: Promoted: Female/Class A: Dracoknight: Falco Knight: Swordmaster: Sniper: Sage: Bishop: Paladin: Female/Class B: General: Warrior: Berserker: Hero: Horseman: Sorcerer: If someone has one of each of a class-set you may begin anew on that set. Thiefs, Manaketes and Marth are obviously not reclassed. Because of this, you may not have two of these classes, nor give people another unit of these classes if they already have one picked. Free units do not count for this rule. In case you are still confused by the rules, here is a sample round of drafting in this method: P1 picks Peg/Falco!Catria, gives P2 Michalis P2 makes Michalis a Draco, picks Peg/Falco!Palla, gives P3 Ymir P3 makes Ymir a berserker, picks Cav/Pally Luke, Gives P4 Sheema P4 keeps Sheema as a General, picks Cav/Pally Rody, gives P5 Bantu P5 picks Cav/Pally!Caeda, gives P1 Leiden, picks Peg/Falco!Cecil, gives P4 Belf. P5 chooses to use their wild card. P5 chooses Cleric/Sage!Malicia. Player List: 1. Kopfjager 2. Vicious Sal 3. Elieson 4. Eclipse 5. General_Horace 6. Kngt_of_Titania Randomized Draft order: 1. Kngt_of_Titania: Archer/Sniper!MU, Dracoknight!Jagen, Paladin!Arran, Fighter/Berserker!Barst, Pirate/Warrior!Bord, Bantu, Mage/Sage!Merric, Cleric/Bishop!Lena, Falco!Katarina, Merc/Hero!Darros, Hunter/Horseman!Frey, Cav/SM!Matthis, Dark Mage/Sorcerer!Samto, Mrym/SM!Leiden, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: MU Sniper: MU Cavalier: Matthis Paladin: Arran Pegasus Knight: Dracoknight: Jagen Mage: Merric Sage: Merric Cleric: Lena Bishop: Lena Mrymidon: Leiden Swordmaster: Matthis, Leiden Falco Knight: Katarina Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Barst Warrior: Bord Pirate: Bord Berserker: Barst Hunter: Frey Horseman: Frey Mercenary: Darros Hero: Darros Knight: General: Ymir Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Beck 2. General_Horace: Mage/Bishop!MU, SM!Jagen, General!Arran,Sage!Boah, Cavalier/Paladin!Cain, Warrior!Samson, Pirate/Draco!Luke, Hunter/Horseman!Ryan, Archer/Sniper!Maria, Fighter/Berserker!Rody, DM/Sorc/Hero!Macellan, Peggy/Falco!Malice, Hero!Wolf, Draco!Sirius, Bishop!Frost, Warrior/Sorcerer!Ymir, Sniper!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: Maria Sniper: Maria, Beck Cavalier: Cain Paladin: Cain Pegasus Knight: Malice Dracoknight: Luke, Sirius Mage: MU Sage: Boah Cleric: Bishop: MU, Frost Mrymidon: Swordmaster: Jagen Falco Knight: Malice Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Rody Warrior: Samson, Ymir (FE11) Pirate: Luke Berserker: Rody Hunter: Ryan Horseman: Ryan Mercenary: Hero: Macellan (FE12), Wolf Knight: General: Arran Dark Mage: Macellan (FE11) Sorcerer: Macellan (FE11), Ymir (FE12) 3. Elieson: Mage/Bishop!MU, Paladin!Jagen, SM!Arran, Tiki, Cavalier/Draco!Abel, Sniper!Michalis, Peggy/Falco!Cecille, Hunter/Horseman!Castor, Sage!Arran, Cleric/Sage!Yubello, Merc/Hero!Dolph, Berserker!Horace, Archer/Bishop!Ellerean, Draco!Wendell, Fighter/Warrior!Dice, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: Ellerean Sniper: Michalis Cavalier: Abel Paladin: Jagen Pegasus Knight: Cecille Dracoknight: Abel, Wendell Mage: MU Sage: Arran (FE11), Yubello Cleric: Yubello Bishop: MU, Ellerean Mrymidon: Swordmaster: Arran (FE12) Falco Knight: Cecille Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Dice Warrior: Dice Pirate: Berserker: Horace Hunter: Castor Horseman: Castor Mercenary: Dolph Hero: Dolph Knight: General: Ymir Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Beck 4. Kopfjager: Archer/Sniper!Mu, Bishop!Jagen, Draco!Arran, Sage!Jeorge, Peggy/Paladin!Caeda, Cleric/Bishop!Elice, Mrym/SM/Cav/Falco!Palla, Mage/Cleric/Sage!Linde, Peggy/Draco/Falco!Est, Mrym/Merc/SM/Horseman!Navarre, Hero!Astram, Cav/Pally!Hardin, Sniper!Sheema, Pirate/Berserker!Warren, Warrior!Robert, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Archer: MU Sniper: MU, Sheema Cavalier: Palla (FE12), Hardin Paladin: Caeda, Hardin Pegasus Knight: Caeda, Est Dracoknight: Arran, Est (FE11) Mage: Linde (FE11) Sage: Jeorge, Linde Cleric: Elice, Linde (FE12) Bishop: Jagen, Elice Mrymidon: Palla (FE11), Navarre (FE11) Swordmaster: Palla (FE11), Navarre (FE11) Falco Knight: Palla (FE12), Est (FE12) Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Warrior: Robert Pirate: Warren Berserker: Warren Hunter: Horseman: Navarre (FE12) Mercenary: Navarre (FE12) Hero: Astram Knight: General: Ymir Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Beck 5. Eclipse: Archer/Sniper!MU, Paladin!Jagen, SM!Arran, Mage/Bishop!Tomas, Cavalier/Draco!Gordin, Curate/Sage!Wrys, Pirate/Berserker!Cord, Mrym/Peggy/Falco/SM!Catria, Archer/Sniper!Roshea, Hero!Sedgar, Cav/Pally!Radd, Mage/Sage/General!Vyland, Hunter/Warrior!Roger, Sorcerer!Etzel, Fighter/Draco!Belf, Hero!Ymir, Horseman!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: MU, Roshea Sniper: MU, Roshea (FE11) Cavalier: Gordin, Radd Paladin: Jagen, Radd Pegasus Knight: Catria (FE12) Dracoknight: Gordin, Belf Mage: Tomas, Vyland (FE11) Sage: Wrys, Vyland (FE11) Cleric: Wrys Bishop: Tomas Mrymidon: Catria (FE11) Swordmaster: Arran, Catria (FE11) Falco Knight: Catria (FE12) Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Belf Warrior: Roger Pirate: Cord Berserker: Cord Hunter: Roger Horseman: Roshea (FE12), Beck Mercenary: Hero: Sedgar, Ymir Knight: General: Vyland (FE12) Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Etzel 6. Vicious Sal: Mage/Bishop!MU, Paladin!Jagen, Sorcerer!Arran, Warrior!Lorenz, Knight/Cavalier/General/Draco!Draug, Merc/Hero/SM!Ogma, Cleric/Sage!Mallesia, Julian, Sniper!Jake, Peggy/Mrym/Pally/Falco!Athena, Fighter/Pirate/Berserker/Draco!Caesar, Bishop/SM!Minerva, Archer/Sage!Yumina, Cav/Falco!Norne, Draco/Sniper!Midia, Horseman/Sorcerer!Ymir, Warrior!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: Yumina Sniper: Jake (FE12), Midia (FE12) Cavalier: Draug (FE12), Norne Paladin: Jagen, Athena (FE11) Pegasus Knight: Athena (FE11) Dracoknight: Draug (FE12), Caesar (FE12), Midia (FE11) Mage: MU Sage: Mallesia, Yumina Cleric: Mallesia Bishop: MU, Minerva (FE11) Mrymidon: Athena (FE12) Swordmaster: Ogma (FE12), Minerva (FE12) Falco Knight: Athena (FE12), Norne Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Caesar (FE11) Warrior: Lorenz, Beck Pirate: Caesar (FE12) Berserker: Caesar (FE11) Hunter: Horseman: Ymir (FE11) Mercenary: Ogma Hero: Ogma (FE11) Knight: Draug (FE11) General: Draug (FE11) Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Arran, Ymir (FE12) Unit List: Beck Ymir Edited December 6, 2011 by Kopfjager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Blerg why not. I have plenty of time, 7.5 months to be precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm IN! I missed the last one, and am salty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Snap, eclipse is in. I gotta put my game on then >.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 ... This looks fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Snap, Horace is in, Now I've gotta watch my game as well! Horace... You do realize you face the current fe12 master? >=D Also known as complete sucker in fe11. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I don't care if I'm dead last, this is gonna ROCK~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) I swear I'm going to regret this. I'm in. EDIT: I think that makes me the fifth. Edited November 27, 2011 by Kngt_Of_Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) You're the final person, I'm not on the master list yet. This means we are full. This should be a good one. Maybe i'll actually lose a draft Edited November 27, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 You're the final person, I'm not on the master list yet. This means we are full. This should be a good one. Maybe i'll actually lose a draft I am going to do everything in my power to win from you. Right now the two turncounts to beat are: 132 for FESD 140 for FENM GOGOGO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Without the Again staff on Marth, the NM turncount might be a bit higher. And the SD one can't reach 132 since we have discovered the glitch. 133 is the absolute minimum, so all you need to do is beat me in New Mystery... which shouldn't be too overwhelming, I'm not as familiar with it as SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 This is a draft though...and we get to pick teams that will screw you over. I'm thinking a Myrmidon/Paladin Linde might slow you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Maybe i'll actually lose a draft If this wasn't my first draft maybe you would. Or technically my first run through both FE11 or FE12. Archer MU and I can guarantee that I draft a sniper? Hell yeah. Edited November 27, 2011 by Kngt_Of_Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm gonna do my best, because this is my first draft on FE12 but to my surprise, I did really well in my first FE11 draft, so I dunno what to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Without the Again staff on Marth, the NM turncount might be a bit higher. And the SD one can't reach 132 since we have discovered the glitch. 133 is the absolute minimum, so all you need to do is beat me in New Mystery... which shouldn't be too overwhelming, I'm not as familiar with it as SD. So you are saying that you will get a 133 TC again, and I will as well, and then we death race to the finish on FENM? :O It's a deal. *Is also working on an absolute minimum TC for FENM* ^ That's harder, since... well, so much more versatility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) I never miss on Archanean drafts since they're awesome, and this one's no exception. Count me in. EDIT: Oh crap, I'm late, again. >.< Edited November 27, 2011 by blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 Ladies and Gentlemen, the Randomization is in. 1. Kngt_of_Titania 2. General_Horace 3. Elieson 4. Kopfjager 5. Eclipse 6. Vicious Sal Please make your pick, Kngt. Also, please state what class MU, Arran, and Jeigan will be locked in with your first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Alright, I start off with Fighter/Berserker!Barst, give General_Horace Boah. MU: Archer/Sniper Jaigan: Dracoknight Arran: Paladin Edited November 27, 2011 by Kngt_Of_Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Boah. Manly. Sage Boah Arran goes General Jeigan goes Swordmaster MU goes Mage --> Bishop I choose Cain, he's going Cavalier --> Paladin I bestow Tiki upon Elieson. IT'S YOUR MOVE [spoiler=List]Unpromoted: Female/Class A: Archer: Cavalier: Cain Pegasus Knight: Mage: MU Cleric: Mrymidon: Class B: Fighter: Pirate: Hunter: Mercenary: Knight: Dark Mage: Promoted: Female/Class A: Dracoknight: Falco Knight: Swordmaster: Jeigan Sniper: Sage: Boah Bishop: MU Paladin: Cain Female/Class B: General: Arran Warrior: Berserker: Hero: Horseman: Sorcerer: Edited November 27, 2011 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) I take that Tiki, and change her class from Manakete to....err, Manakete. I proudly name my Mage -> Bishop !MU I pick, for myself, a hearty Abel, Cavalier -> Dracoknight I consider Jagen Paladin. Good classic standard I consider Aaran to be a Swordmaster (See what I did there?) and for my good friend Kopf, I hand thee, Jeorge. Have fun~ [spoiler=List]Unpromoted: Female/Class A: Archer: Cavalier: Abel Pegasus Knight: Mage: MU Cleric: Mrymidon: Class B: Fighter: Pirate: Hunter: Mercenary: Knight: Dark Mage: Promoted: Female/Class A: Dracoknight: Abel Falco Knight: Swordmaster: Arran Sniper: Sage: Bishop: MU Paladin: Jagen Female/Class B: General: Warrior: Berserker: Hero: Horseman: Sorcerer: Other: Tiki Edited November 27, 2011 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 Jeorge can go Sage. MU will be an Archer/Sniper. Jagen is a Bishop Arran is a Dracoknight. My first pick is my favorite: Caeda, as a Pegasus/Paladin. Eclipse, you get the Green Skittle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Yay~! Tomas can go Mage -> Bishop (which he does surprisingly well in). I'm grabbing Cavalier -> Dracoknight Gordin, and Sal below me can deal with Lorenz. My unit: Archer/Sniper Jagen: Paladin Arran: Swordmaster Edited November 27, 2011 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Ok... So it's my pick? I pick twice? AND I will be using my wild card. Kopf, give me a list please of everything I have to do/pick/give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmKALLL Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Daaamn, late. And I don't own FE12 anyway, but this would guarantee buying it lol. "you will get a 133 TC again" good luck with that in a half-SOYO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Sal... Here's what you need to do in case the example in the OP or your experience in my other FE12 draft isn't clear enough: 1. Decide a class for MU, Jeigan, and Arran to be stuck in. 2. Pick one guy for yourself w/ classes, pick one guy for KoT. 3. Pick another guy for yourself w/ classes, pick one guy for clipse. 4. Use wild card if you want, in which case you pick a third guy for yourself w/class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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