Magical Glace Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) So a while back Loca asked how to create FE7 hacks since he wanted to rebalence the game. I told him it wasn't that hard and I could do it myself with ease. So now this is a thing. We're going to play it, probably slowly, and playlog it here. I'm not going to make the patch public until I'm certain I remembered everything. Loca will post the Prologue later. (LHM/HNM by the way) Edited January 16, 2015 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Can you and or living the crazy life give any deeeeetails on how balance is balanced? J.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Can you and or living the crazy life give any deeeeetails on how balance is balanced? J.C.Basically, units were buffed/nerfed according to this: Unit changes; Lyn:Lower skill growth by 5%, buff def by 10%%, raise base str and def to 5, lower base skill by 2-5, give Blade Lord+15 crit, and lower Sol Katti wt Hector: promo time is out of the question unless fanfiction happens, but even so:+1 mov from promo Eliwood:Bases are 6 across the board save res, lower durandal weight, str+spd buff?(I feel like small buffs to multiple stats would better suit the idea of eliwood unit-wise, but thats just me) Bartre the BRAAAAAAAAAAAAVE:buff base speed to 5; add+2 spd to warrior promo, maybe give +1 to all his other bases,since his low skill and luck combined with axes and higher enemy luck mean that he'll have reaaaly bad hitrates Dorkass, the poisoned mutton man:buff speed growth to 30% and make his base 7 or 8; since skill and luck will actually be important stats, i think thats all that needs to be done Serra: buff mag growth to 65%(Should staff EXP be changed?) Heath, the magical toffee bar dragon:if join time cant be changed, simply raise luck to prevent sniper rape,and maybe buff his def and spd by like 5% Marcus: Reduce his str to 8, and buff his def and hp(He'll pretty much only be reliable high move durable chip damage,which is a lot less broken then vanilla) Pent:lower stats a bit, but more importantly, lower staff rank Erk:Raise mag growth to 50% and luck growth to 40%(His normal one is 30% right?) Rebecca:raise str growth by 5%, buff base str by 2, snipers get crit bonus Wil:buff spd grwoth by 5% and base by 2 Florina:buff str growth by 10,raise CON? Fiora:nerf skill growth by 15%,raise def growth by 10%, raise str growth by 10%(she has only decent luck and a weakness to snipers;i think she needs a rather large buff) Nino: Buff all growths by 10%,raise CN so she can actually wield a fire tome without slowing down Wallass:Wow does he suck...hmm.. maybe buff his speed growth by 25%, so he can effectively be a worse version of FE10 gatrie, and maybe raise all his bases by 3(i think this could become OP, but you have to control lord levels to get him so eh) Karla:just give her FE6!Karel's growths, i can see no other way to redeem someone who shows up sooooo late in the game AND requires the training of a specific unit,even if she reaches level 20,she can only kill things for 3 chapters,right? Isadora:Hmmm...its kinda tough to make her unique...theres already a horsetank, an offense pallie, a jagen, and a balanced pallie...Give her the wind affinity, i guess, and buff hp,def,and CON. Not much can be done with her Renault:ALL THE MAG BUFFS Vaida:raise her speed by 3.your call. Canas:Def growth can be 40%, mag 60%, res 25%,and skill 25%;a traditional druid, but with less res and more speed Legault:again, buffs may or not be necessary; buff def to 35%,otherwise hes fine with +25 crit Dart:buff luck growth by 10% to prevent him from getting critblicked Lowen:Does he...need any buffing?Maybe a slight buff to his strength,but i think hes fine Raven:Not sure to nerf him, hes constantly critted, but if necessary just lower his base str by 2 Rath:Increase str,luck,and def growths by 10%; hes still pretty frail, with crap supports,and shows up underleveled I think i covered every unit; so time for misc stuff! Your idea of light brand doing normal damage and being more available is great,should the same apply to runesword? What would be a good idea for a 1-2 range bow? Nerf Luna hit to be 45 Add a couple energy rings, there are none, not counting the eliwood mode only one, the Lyn mode one, and the Mario kart bonus disc one Lower sword wt? Lower steel lance wt Assassins steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Can you and or living the crazy life give any deeeeetails on how balance is balanced? J.C. The question is what makes this balenced rather than balanced? Most of the changes seem relatively minor. Growths don't really matter in the long run, especially if it's only by 5 or 10%. Plus, giving only buffs is going to just make the game easier in general, you need to be cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Flyers like Fiora and Florina are so so good, given their current Con even. Even in vanilla!FE7, you can easily see how powerful they are. Their incredible speed offsets their offense by their iffy con (florina's not gonna ever be on top of hector with that teeny con that's like +1 over Nino) If you raise her con, just raise it by +1 so it's equal to her sisters'. I'd kick Fiora's speed growth by -15% and add +1 to her base but I'm evil Lyn's niche is that instead of 15% Crit, she gets Bow access (which is a big deal yo). Giving her crit + bows would make her OP. Certainly give the Sniper class the +crit though Giving Bartre +1 Speed to his base allows him to double all sorts of enemies even on Hard mode, and his Speed growth isn't really bad by any means. +2 is kind of overkill. Give Rath +2 Base levels and adjust his base stats to what they'd be at that point Also man Nino is gonna be so OP with even more buffed growths. Enemy Res in this game is pretty awful, she'll be tanking with a Thunder Tome in no time Are you going to adjust Priscilla? Buff Class Growths of all classes by 20% except for like HP/Def. This will make things more balanced. Edited August 13, 2014 by Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 well, i suppose a 5% growth nerf/buff might maybe almost sort of make an infinitesimal difference in endgame but that's like literally one point over 20 levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Flyers like Fiora and Florina are so so good, given their current Con even. Even in vanilla!FE7, you can easily see how powerful they are. Their incredible speed offsets their offense by their iffy con (florina's not gonna ever be on top of hector with that teeny con that's like +1 over Nino) If you raise her con, just raise it by +1 so it's equal to her sisters'. I'd kick Fiora's speed growth by -15% and add +1 to her base but I'm evil Lyn's niche is that instead of 15% Crit, she gets Bow access (which is a big deal yo). Giving her crit + bows would make her OP. Certainly give the Sniper class the +crit though Giving Bartre +1 Speed to his base allows him to double all sorts of enemies even on Hard mode, and his Speed growth isn't really bad by any means. +2 is kind of overkill. Give Rath +2 Base levels and adjust his base stats to what they'd be at that point Also man Nino is gonna be so OP with even more buffed growths. Enemy Res in this game is pretty awful, she'll be tanking with a Thunder Tome in no time Are you going to adjust Priscilla? Buff Class Growths of all classes by 20% except for like HP/Def. This will make things more balanced. Was merely doing as told. Oh, I think Loca forgot her... Vanilla Nino is oft viewed as being not worth it, and she still has a slow start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Nothing against you and DA patch, just offering some opinions ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefGuevara Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Aw jeez, now i feel guilty for making Glac make a shoddy patch. Well, thats what friends are for,right?ha..haha…if nothing else, a play log is a play log,right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Of course! Though in all seriousness, when posting a playlogue of a Romhack, a concise Changelog should be provided along with it in, so viewers know what's actually going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefGuevara Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Of course! Though in all seriousness, when posting a playlogue of a Romhack, a concise Changelog should be provided along with it in, so viewers know what's actually going on. Yeah,that would be a good idea;ill make one when i get the prologue finished and everything…might be tomorrow,I'm not feeling too well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefGuevara Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) IM SO SORRY THIS TOOK AN ENTIRE MONTH THINGS GOT OUT OF HAND What a title screen Holy shit this game is over ten years old Lyndis-Kuuun~ I have to make a name that Glac would also be ok with BRILLIANT I picked a random birth month as well Also i hope Glac is ok with being MANLY hmm...*checks pants* yep pretty sure im a guy. CHAPTER TITLE I am now Now lemme go back to slee- NEVERMIND HELLO~ Safe and aroused I AM WAIFU,DESTROYER OF WORLDS 4-Chan would like a word with you I suppose it is when you exist in a series that has a guy who i affectionately refer to as Long'Queef OR MAYBE I JUST LIKE FLOWY CLOTHING I came here to find sexy ladies And i have succeeded You mean the slide whistle? Yeah that was me,sorry But i thought i established the source of the noise was my trousers Oh my COCKBLOCKERS Oh and they prefer to be called brigands No you dont You could stay here and find whats happening in my pants WE GOT A BADASS OVER HERE I wield THE POWER OF BONE- I mean Love Yeah,thats it Love We get shit pay But we get kawaii waifus So its an okay job You put the pointy thing inside of him and he dies Need any further explanation? I thought you'd never ask~ Lyn needs to do her stretches before killing BATTA Why can i not just attack him this turn YOUVE RUINED MY TURN COUNTS GAME They call her Rindisu St. Waifu-Kun That implies that standing is required to kill you Cant do the prologue without at least one She stuck the pointy thing inside of you and you died Need any further explanation? This is a bad omen Since when did i want to live with you OH GOD SHES WATCHING ME SLEEP Yep I just snore while awake sometimes Is that what they call it these days? Seductive Lyn continues to use euphemisms We can travel all night long bby MY PARENTS ARE DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD More like Dorca tribe Amirite Clearly they lacked the power of boners Do not fret,darling Your Waifu is here for you Shes saving her moisture for ''traveling'' Smart girl Someone attended the Rath school of conversation apparently Well that was sudden I hope thats Yoda-ese for''I want Waifu'' Why is she seductive again Is vengeance sexy nowadays or something Thanks for that obvious statement This is why you fight and i think Oh my Seductive Lyn returns And she wants to travel yet again I mean We can travel by ourselves if we reallly need to Oh my I swear i didnt intend for this to be such a seductive prologue Edited September 14, 2014 by Livin La Vida Loca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7隊長ジョン Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 This is a bad omen THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR MESSING WITH THE GROWTHS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousSpeed Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 hmm...*checks pants* yep pretty sure im a guy. Well, that's a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I love the ugly black highlight and white text. So easy to read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefGuevara Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I love the ugly black highlight and white text. So easy to read! Yeah,my bad.Im kinda dumb like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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