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Keep in mind Edeglard still has consistently placed high (or placed first) in the female category of all those polls, even if it appears her popularity has waned and her character is rather controversial in the fanbase. Also it still is entirely possible she's less popular than Dimitri, we won't know until the official numbers are released when the voting ends. All that matters for CYL right now is her popularity in comparison to the female competition.
Finally, another thing to note is that CYL has far greater visibility and a greater impact than any other character poll done before. This means more passionate responses and likely different sects of the population that might be more pro-Edelgard contributing to this poll that weren't voting in the previous ones.
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11 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said:
Ignatz unpopularity really is one of the big mysteries of our time. He's consistently sweet and gentle to just about everyone, and considering most gamers would identity with his fairly low key and nuanced depiction of social anxiety you'd think he'd be more endearing than off putting. And while not the total stud that Claude is I always assumed his nerdy appearance fell more under charming than ugly. There's very little I can point to about Ignatz that I'd consider a reason for people to reject him but exactly that has happened en mass ever since release.
But there's always Cyril who could save Iggy from that fate.
From what I've seen online, a few people criticize how "pathetic" Ignatz is, and how he seems to be so easily stepped upon by others. From my experience, this kind of personality can work female characters, but it tends to be an active detriment to male characters, so I wouldn't be surprised of some form of gender-stereotyping is at play here.
Also, while his anxiety is relateable, I guess the issue is that it's too "normal" instead of hyper-exaggerated like Bernie. And while people like seeing their flaws in other characters, a lot of people don't like it being, err, too realistic. I guess they see it as more of a call out rather than "lol #RELATABLE"
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Wow, I thought Lysethia would do well, but not this well. I lean more the anti-Lysethia camp too (god her C-supports and her entire chain with Ignatz were insufferable, especially since I identify pretty heavily with Iggy), but at the same time, I wouldn't necessarily mind if she won. So far CYL has been the "lords and major characters only" camp, so having her nab the victory would show that side characters can win, which is nice! That and even though I'm not particularly fond of Lysethia, I'd still prefer her over Bernie >.>
As for my voting, I'm kinda stuck on what to do. I normally vote for favorites over trying to get characters to win because normally the characters I want to vote for have 0 chances of winning, but I actually really like Dimitri and really want him to maintain his 1st place, especially since Claude and Marth fans are getting riled up.
Not too bummed at all three 3H lords in the winning places though. That just means we have the potential to see post-CF Edelgard, post-AM Dimitri, and post-VW Claude all talking to each other and I would kill to see that interaction.
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12 hours ago, Jotari said:
*Why doesn't Edelgard turn into a monster in Verdant Wind or Silver Snow. I know the war is going a bit worse for her in Azure Moon, but when people are literally storming your throne room things seem equally bad.
In addition to what was previously said, I also feel it's a good idea to mention how much worse the situation is in AM compared to SS/VW. In the latter two routes, the Empire has only lost their footing to the West in the Gronder Field area. The eastern half of the Kingdom is still under their control, and Cornelia is still fighting against Kingdom resistance, which undoubtedly has weakened in terms of numbers and morale after the deaths of Dimitri, Rodrigue, and many of their soldiers at Gronder. While she might be facing a direct invasion on the capital, she has not lost everything she has gained during the war, so she's probably more confident at this time.
Meanwhile, Edelgard is truly backed into a corner in AM. Any conquests she made have been lost and now a united resistance comprised of the Kingdom, Alliance, and Church are knocking at her door. Tie in the fact that Edelgard might as well be at her worst in this route as she never really faced the consequences of siding with TWSITD (i.e. the destruction of Merceus), she is probably not above transforming herself into a literal monster for the sake of her goals at this point.
Quote*Why doesn't Hubert tell them about Those Who Slither In The Dark in Azure Moon? Unless he does and we just don't see it because the game ends.
Honestly, this bothered me too. The letter being found after the game ends is the only logical explanation I can think of.
Some people here have said the letter was just never written, but that doesn't really make sense. The letter was written with three objectives in mind:
- Inform the victors of the existence of TWSITD
- Pass on the torch and tell the victors to defeat TWSITD
- Divulge the location of Shambala
While it's true that the missiles weren't launched, that only removes one of the three objectives of the letter. Remember, in AM, SS, and VW, no one in the player's army is aware of the existence of TWSITD, and Edelgard and Hubert are aware of this. Informing the victors about the existence of TWSITD is incredibly important regardless of whether Shambala's location was known or not.
And the idea of Hubert not writing the letter because Arundel/Thales was killed doesn't make sense either. This is Hubert we're talking about after all. Do you really think he'll settle with only killing the leadership of TWSITD? He's probably knows the possibility of the remnants of TWSITD rising up again (like in the Byleth/Claude ending) too, so I doubt he'd neglect to write anything in AM.
Quote*Why doesn't Claude...do anything at all in Silver Snow. Silver Snow and Church routes are near identical, yet Claude doesn't involve himself at all in Silver Snow even though he has all the exact same motivations. Byleth not teaching him at school doesn't seem like it would alter any of his intentions.
While Claude's intentions don't change when under Byleth's guidance, his personality sure does. While still as cunning and intelligent, Claude appears to be more (for the lack of a better term) "cowardly" and distrustful, and he doesn't seem to understand the loyalty and trust he inspires in others - see his confusion at Hilda being willing to die for him in CF. He flees whenever he can see an easy way out, and tends to bend whenever things get really tough. While he could help Byleth and co. in SS, he'd really rather not get involved and chooses back out while he can. Same deal as him in AM. A VW Claude placed in AM Claude's shoes would most assuredly help out, but without Byleth's guidance, he lacks the spine to go ahead and fight when he has the perfect chance to run and escape with his life.
QuoteWhy Rhea only goes crazy (different sort of crazy to Crimson Flower crazy) in one route I have absolutely no explanation for.
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I tend to avoid recruiting students unless I'm doing a "RECRUIT EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM" run to keep things more interesting in Part 2, but I always, always recruit Marianne. Even if I have no plans to use her, I refuse to leave her behind.
Helps that she's the one character that never shows up in Part 2 unless you take her in.
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So Edelgard and Hilda are both deployed at 1:32. Considering this is impossible in normal play, it looks like this side story will allow all three lords to be deployed. Because of that, I'm also guessing this is pre-timeskip only
There were some hints at this previously, such as the NPCs that talk about the Abyssians disappearing partway through White Clouds, but it's nice for some soft confirmations. I wonder then if the four characters will be getting post-timeskip appearances...
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Haaa, I actually don't think any of these choices are able to encapsulate how I actually feel about these two, but I chose "I think she's wrong" for both of them.
I don't want to write an essay on this, so I'll just stay this: at the end of the day, I can sympathize with both Edelgard and Rhea and their goals (admittedly more so with Rhea), but I also ultimately believe both were incredibly misguided with their actions and caused the needless suffering of thousands as a result.
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Yup, definitely did, but it was all my fault really. I was pretty active during the early datamine phases and went out of my way to spoil myself on gameplay details like epilogues, classes, skills, growths, crests, PTS portraits, and the like. There was no way I wasn't going to accidentally spoil myself on some story details.
Honestly though, it was nothing too bad? I stayed away from all major story beats like the plague, only really accidentally spoiling myself on backstories, some character deaths, and some secret identities. Most of it fell under stuff that I wasn't either too surprised by or outright expected, at least. Also its all pretty disjointed knowledge, so I have no idea how the pieces fall into place. The only two I'm slightly upset at myself over were
SpoilerEdelgard being the Flame Emperor and Jeralt having the Crest of Seiros.
The former was slightly expected, but would've loved to react to blindly, and I suspected something was up with the latter, but I never expected that.
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38 minutes ago, Sentinel07 said:
I don't know if this is spoilery or not. I don't think so but I'll tag it just in case.
So, there are endings between student pairs? If so, anyone know if there's some kind of visual indication of where the character is going to go if they have multiple A-ranks? I heard someone say it might be the highest person on a character's "closest allies" section, but I'd like to be sure. If there are non-Byleth paired endings, some indication that's easy to figure out would be nice.
SpoilerNon-Byleth paired endings are a thing (and they can be opposite sex, same sex, romantic, platonic, etc.), confirmed as of the recent datamine. As for how it works.... we dunno, sorry.
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Made a quick edit to cut out spoilers and pre-timeskip. Forgive me if I missed anything, I kind of rushed to avoid spoiling myself too much XD
Here are all students + both Byleths + Cyril post-timeskip, all potential spoilers cut out. Sorry if the quality is significantly worse.
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AT LAST THE MOMENT EVERYONE HAS WAITED FOR, POST-TIMESKIP PORTRAITS!
***WARNING*** - Has neutral portraits for every single character. Including spoilers. Enter at your own risk.
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We got skill/weapon rank icons!
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S-rank weapons confirmed, woo!
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This is an update related to paired endings, but if I edit my previous comment it'll probably be ignored. So here's some new info regarding Byleth s-supports (especially involving M!Byleth M/M pairings):
SpoilerByleth's S-supports are not necessarily romantic. People have looked at M!Byleth's M/M s-support options, and the only one he ends up romantically with is Linhardt. Alois and Gilbert have non-romantic endings where the two become really close platonically, and that's it.
More info: https://old.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cglj2z/about_the_text_leak_and_the_3_mm_options/
EDIT: Before anyone grabs their pitchforks, some people are looking more into this to confirm this is actually the case, I'll post an update once the news is confirmed/finalized, I guess.EDIT EDIT: Okay so I don't know what I'm talking about and I don't want to unnecessarily stoke some flames. I'm probably not going to be talking about this issue, but it is being discussed in the comments of the linked thread if you want more info on everything.
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11 minutes ago, Captain Karnage said:
ANY UNMARKED SPOILERS FROM HERE ON FORWARD WILL BE MET WITH A WARN. REMINDER THE X IS IRRELEVANT WHEN MAKING A SPOILER TAG
[Xspoiler] [X/spoiler]
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
Got it.
Here's info on character endings, specifically paired endings considering there's been debate over whether they exist or not:
SpoilerThey apparently exist, and for non-Byleth pairings. I don't know the details, nor do I know how they work.
I don't know where to find them (and tbh I'm afraid to search),[they are apparently buried somewhere in the earlier text dumps] but quite a few people are buzzing about it so I'll place my faith in them. Extra details:- Pairings are not necessarily between those of the opposite sex. Same sex paired endings exist
- Paired endings are not necessarily romantic in nature. Platonic ones exist.
For those curious for more info, here's a link to the main thread about it: https://old.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cgldyy/regarding_supports_between_all_characters/
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Collection of gameplay leaks surfaced!
Difficulty options:
SpoilerByleth's Master Class:
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6 minutes ago, Azz said:
I saw a story spoiler on reddit for BL route and oh damn
definitely evacuating now
Haha, yeah I just saw those black bars and nope'd. I'm not touching those bars with a 10-foot pole.
Also we got text dumps. Did a brief, shallow skim, so I have no idea if this is everything, but from what I can tell this is (almost) every single piece of text in the game. So there's gonna be a lot of junk too:
Spoilerhttps://pastebin.com/dXtyrvkB - From what I can tell, lots of menu box stuff. Might be some more interesting things in here, but nothing I saw stood out in particular during my skim.
https://pastebin.com/QiFxU3Da - I saw Chapter titles first thing and I immediately exited out. Dunno what else is in here.
EDIT: Thinking about it, I'm not sure if this has everything, buuuut I'm too scared to look inside and determine what could be missing. Enter at your own risk!
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We apparently got a cutscene dump now, hoo boy. I'm not touching this, but the person who runs the leak thread on Reddit verified it. Those who want story spoilers, go crazy. It's a 1GB download:
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47 minutes ago, Jayvee94 said:Would someone PM me the link to the second leaker?
All info from the second leaker can be found on this thread. It's also become somewhat of a mass leak compendium and will be posting stuff from the ROM datamines: https://old.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cghnp5/second_leaker_megathread/
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Starting to get the fruits from the ROM leak. First 30 minutes:
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17 minutes ago, nyainou said:
Does Byleth get supports with recruited characters?
Based on the IGN chart, Byleth can achieve A/S-ranks with every other playable character in the game. I don't believe supports would be locked out from you if a student isn't in your house originally, especially since a few previewers have mentioned/speculated that increasing support ranks helps making recruiting characters easier.
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33 minutes ago, Brimney said:
It’s book time http://imgur.com/a/dRfvhbN
13 minutes ago, Hardric62 said:And here is Part 2: https://imgur.com/gallery/9yN14fB
Man, the more lore gets out,the more you wonder how there isn't a war already.
Yes, feed me more lore... mooore!
Interesting tibits I noticed:
Spoiler- As someone mentioned earlier, Serios and Nemesis lived for a REALLY long time, definitely some shenanigans going on. While Serios being a manakete is a popular theory, what about Nemesis? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he have normal ears?
- Dimitri is still prince as his uncle Rufus of Itha is serving as regent for now
- The lands of Galatea experience famine in 1170, which lines up with a theory that Ingrid really loves food because of some period of starvation she experienced.
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Seems like Claude has a female cousin that is MIA, and his uncle (the original heir) died in an "accident." If Thani leaks are right with Claude's inheritence playing a major role,these twothis incident are definitely going to be important - ^^^NVM, looking at the wording again, it's unspecific if it's referring to Claude's mother or someone else, but going by Occam's Razor I'm going with mother
- Ingrid from Faerghus bears the Crest of Daphnel, while no one from House Daphnel has had the crest for generations. That's kind of hilarious and sad
- Lord Arundel is the one who takes Edelgard to Faerghus for safety during the Insurrection of the Seven... but he's also one of the principle instigators of the event?
- Emile, the heir of House Bartels, is missing and potentially responsible for the deaths of nearly everyone in the household. He is also Mercedes's younger brother. *Stares at Jeritza* HMMMMMMMM
- Apparently all those that the Goddess blessed with crests all had unnaturally long lifespans. If Serios, Seteth, Flayn (and potentially Rhea?) aren't manaketes, they could all just still be kicking because of the blessing of the Goddess
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4 minutes ago, B.Leu said:
So it's sure that we are joining the church ? Aww, I wanted to murder-kill everyone. 😞
Like, seriously.Oh well, no one expect the inquisition am I right ?
I mean, from what I can tell, there seems to be nothing stopping us from murder-killing everyone if we side with the church, especially since that means we side with none of the house leaders.
Honestly IMO, this path seems like a real wild card in the path it will take. It can easily be pacifist, it can easily be genocide. Until more info drops, we'll probably have no clue.
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6 minutes ago, Hardric62 said:
Oh and I just looked again more closely at the profiles. The bloody mess Dimitri survived? Looks like it was a 'subjugation' of the area. Imagination can go on for a while with that blank check.
I always interpreted the "subjugation" as more of a knee-jerk response by the kingdom after the slaughter of the royal family and (based off of Ingrid's and Felix's bios) a handful of important nobles. Similar to how the US responded after the 9/11 attacks, or how WWI was basically triggered by a a series of declarations of war after major royalty was assassinated by a terrorist organization.
Still, unless this is a Serenes situation, it makes you wonder what sort of animosity the people of Duscar had for the nobility of the Kingdom. Even if it was a Serenes situation, that brings up another question of why were they the targets of blame? They probably were easy targets, sure, but I feel like there would be better targets to choose in that situation if you wanted to pin the blame on someone considering Duscar doesn't seem to be a very powerful region.
Choose Your Legends Round 4 Official Discussion Thread!
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I do think I know which people you're talking about, and I agree that they can be aggravating. Reading their comments, sometimes it feels like only their interpretations of characters are correct and any disagreement is a sign that you simply "don't understand them" (and the possibility of having to deal with their debates turns me off of any discussion about Edelgard, period) but I think saying that they hound people is a bit extreme IMO.