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6 minutes ago, Jotari said:
Is that sarcasm? Because he kind of did. Well, except the glaciers part. Sure he gets warp happy at the end, but there's a whole bunch of walking around before then. And for crying out loud the dude must know where the shrine of seals is. He was probably there when it was built. He could have cut out half the game by fetching a mountain based map of Bern and saying "somewhere around here. South central east."
Just now, BrightBow said:Besides, Athos pretty much did all of that anyway, being a poor knockoff of an already poor character.
...Yeah, I had remembered it was basically just the one legendary weapon chapter, but he did just leave the main characters to figure the whole Shrine of Seals thing out for themselves, didn't he...
1 minute ago, BrightBow said:Genocide is on a whole different level of evil, you know.
2 minutes ago, BrightBow said:Knowing that, Athol let Eliwood and Co. wander aimlessly through the desert instead of simply teleporting to them. He eventually send out Hawkeye, just like Goto send out Xane, to guide them slowly to his location instead of getting off his own ass.
Then he did the same thing again, sending them without directions to find a secret location in the hostile Biran.By the time all that pointlessness was done, Nergal was already restored and nearly untouchable even by divine weapons and teleported straight onto their asses. Oops.
And the only reason Nergal didn't just kill everyone right then and there is because then the game would be over. As Athos himself admits, Nergal was more than capable of that.1 minute ago, BrightBow said:Also held on to those Heaven Seals too. Just kinda handing them out whenever he feels like. Not to mention other shit he has stuck in his sock drawer, like the Sol Katti.
You know, you make fair points.
But I needed an opportunity to get mad at Gotoh again. Surely you understand.
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15 hours ago, ping said:
Genuinely impressed that that's a thing. Now I almost feel bad for murdering him.
Yeah, anything that has less than 20 con and isn't sitting on a mount can be captured. No exceptions for bosses.
For what it's worth, chapter 1's bossman Weissmann goes something like "bested by a bunch of backwood yokels... Well, I won't forget this!" and then proceeds never to show up again. It doesn't usually amount to much, outside of getting the bossmen's weaponry (which isn't even all that a lot of the time), but it's a quaint little detail.
15 hours ago, ping said:As you said, you can't fault Kaga for inconsistency. It's almost impossible to miss by accident, but since this is Thracia, there must be a 1% chance of failure.
I didn't even realize, but... yeah, this does go well in line with the guy who capped minimum and maximum hit to 1% and 99% respectively.
15 hours ago, ping said:To be honest, I think I prefer "Augustus", since without the -us, the name has a clear connotation to clowns. At least in German, dunno about other countries/languages.
lmao. I can't say it does in my country, but that's great.
15 hours ago, ping said:His dayjob was basketball player on the Center position (i.e. the big guy playing closest to the basket). Held the record for most points scored until very recently, too. So yeah, actual giant. 218 cm, according to wikipedia.
Jesus, that's almost 50 centimeters taller than Bruce. No wonder that looked so silly.
13 hours ago, BrightBow said:FE7 got Athos, who is basically Elibe's version of a retired Nazi general.
I mean, Athos never made Eliwood and company hike through deserts, volcanoes, glaciars and houses full of thieves and dragons for no reason while the world was at stake.
13 hours ago, BrightBow said:Oh definitely. 3 protagonists and they are all just Marth clones.
Ehhh incorrect. Hector is very different as both a character and a unit. Not that I'm particularly a fan of him, mind, but Marth clone he is not. The only thing remotely Marthish about him is the axe, which is admittedly a shame, but that's something every post-Kaga lord is shackled with until Fates.
11 hours ago, Jotari said:Even August's introduction here is tied to the Gaiden in a narrative sense. Like we've set up August as a character by using Lifis as a character. Yet you can just walk off and never see Lifis (until you get to the end game and one of the Deadlords randomly has the face of someone you've never seen before).
It's even funnier because if you don't get 2x you basically meet August and then immediately say goodbye to him and are left wondering what the deal was with the old guy. His role in 2x isn't super big, but at least you're with him for a little bit that way.
9 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:IMO Thani is great on Micaiah, mainly because she, uh, doesn't really have any combat otherwise. Its Rapier effectiveness, while useful, kinda comes from nowhere thematically.
lol I actually forgot Micaiah also got the rapier even though she's in a completely different classline that already excells at killing armors. Was that really necessary, guys?
9 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:Side note, but Thracia's portraits are some of the most... uncanny... for me to revisit. They're a clear improvement from FE4, and honestly much closer to GBAFE. But at the same time, definitely different from what would follow. Less colorful, more grounded... not my cup of tea. But arguably, the best portraits up until the Tellius games.
I, on the other hand, like them precisely because of that. Less colorful and more grounded is my cup of tea. But well, you know what they say,
all toastersto each their own.9 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:I do appreciate August's design, at the very least. A bald (but not clean-shaven) grumpy old man? Not something we see much anymore. Even our older Jagens, like Gunther, Meißen, and Vander have more of a "Grandpa" vibe. ...Or "Daddy", if that's what you're into. Not so for August, who is that "borderline-racist uncle whom your parents reluctantly invite to family gatherings, only for him to break into the liquor cabinet and become uncomfortably handsy with the in-laws".
...Huh, apparently I have a lot to say about that one screenshot.
His head is also not perfectly round. It's a small detail but the only other bald character like that on the player's side is Oliver, and Oliver's... well, Oliver. It adds to August's rugged appearance.
August passes for a generic bossman that gets recolored two or three times. I like it too - blurs the line a bit on the good ol' "everyone on the player's side is handsome" effect which is much too prevalent, and it really fits the guy just in general.
9 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:You were going to talk about how much you love Ronan.
I like Selfina more.
9 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:Your education system failed you, like a lot of things from Spain.
What would you know, yankee?
9 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:Quick Ruben! Get mad about Gotoh again!
I actually did before I scrolled down enough to see this.
I really am that predictable, huh.
9 hours ago, Revier said:Huh, that was a pretty unremarkable second chapter. And here I was thinking the game would pick up immediately after the obligatory intro. What a fool I was, lol.
The game takes a little longer to get going.
Exactly, until chapter 3. Then it gets going. I'd argue it takes less long than Genealogy does - a chapter in Thracia is a lot shorter than a chapter in Genealogy, and by the time of Thracia's chapter 3 Genealogy is still meandering with the generic kidnapping of the neighboring maiden.
6 hours ago, Jotari said:That's some serious shade your throwing on all 20 of the BS: Archanea Saga portraits right there.
Oh yeah, BSFE had the best portrait art in all of Kaga's era of FE. I so wish they'd kept that artist for FE5. I like FE5's portraits but BSFE was built different.
3 hours ago, ping said:If only the portraits were wide enough to fit all of the characters' shoulders. But yeah, the effect is a bit odd - like cardboard cutouts that somebody did a bad job cutting out.
It works better with other backgrounds. Interiors in particular use pillars and walls to hide the shoulder cutoff. Here they... tried a similar thing with the trees and it didn't really work.
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4 minutes ago, Armagon said:
He's here to stay. You can run, you can hide, but you'll meet him again in your nightmares...
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44 minutes ago, ping said:
But while making his way along the shore, he passes near a small settlement: a coastal village by the name of Iz...
Hey, I know that one!
45 minutes ago, ping said:people point to him as one of the strongest characters in Jugdral. Narratively, of course.
I'm not convinced he's not one of the strongest characters in Jugdral just in general. He could probably put Seliph in a chokehold. Jokes aside, he could definitely make Seliph cry.
45 minutes ago, ping said:But I think that is all. I don't even recall who August's benefactor is, to be honest.
You'll be pleased to find out.
48 minutes ago, ping said:The only potential issue I can see is that we'll still not have a healer available...
Hey @Shaky Jones remember those talks we had? About the one heal staff? This is what I meant.
...Don't worry about it, just an unrelated topic.
49 minutes ago, ping said:
Boss Man isn't too terrifying, either - as long as you don't get any smart ideas of having Leif fight him. 6 AS is enough to double him. But like Weissmann in Ch.1, Bucks is a walking invitation to enjoy the benefits of a Jeigan with a magic sword.
The best part of this guy is his release quote. Dude (seemingly) repents and becomes a fisherman if spared. I've always been sad that a lot of the game's bosses are uncapturable, because sparing those that can be spared and seeing how they react is so interesting.
50 minutes ago, ping said:It took two chapters to get to get the third damsel into distress. Kaga's in rare form today.
You can't fault him for inconsistency, at least.
51 minutes ago, ping said:
...nevermind. Doubling threshold seems to be 4 in this game, after being 3 in Old Mystery. Good to know.
For all of Binding Blade's superficial return to roots stuff, it was actually Thracia that set a few of the series's mechanical conventions going forward. 4 doubling threshold wasn't touched until Fates, rescue remained all the way to Awakening (discounting the remakes) and even there it was more overhauled than outright removed, constitution and weight based on it stuck through the GBA trilogy...
...It also introduced fog of war. Sadly.
53 minutes ago, ping said:
...not the most difficult set of houses to save. But I shan't make the mistake of taunting Thracia. Not with a fog-of-war chapter coming right up.
To its credit, the single most important and most crippling to miss gaiden is also... kind of impossible to miss unless you actively let it happen? Those houses are super easy to protect. Though I maintain that it should not have been missable, period. It's your introduction to fog, your introduction to capturing bosses and not letting them go, your introduction to thieves, your introduction to healers, your introduction to scrolls...
Seriously, the more I think about it the worse it seems. Why the fuck is 2x missable? There's so much to unpack! Anyway, I forgot the point I was making.
55 minutes ago, ping said:
: "Oh, you must be with the Freeblades! I want to join y'all! I'm good enough with a bow and I can get around pretty fast. I won't hold you back none.
: "B-But you've never been in a real fight like this before...! You that eager to leave yer mother alone in this world?!"
: "That don't matter none! Every battle is somebody's first, right? Guess this'll be mine. I mean, maybe you can stand holing up in here an' waiting to die, but I sure can't!"
This translation makes no mention of Lifis here. A liberty, probably, because in the old one - and I imagine in the original, though I cannot know for sure, it wouldn't be the first time the old translation just invented shit - he explictly says he's joining up to fight Lifis.
...Which very quickly becomes an extremely stupid motivation for him to stick with Leif. So I can follow the logic of wording this more vaguely.
56 minutes ago, ping said:
Weapon Level: Bows (E+30)
Skill: AdeptRonan's base combat stats are pretty comparable to Tanya's - +1 Str, but -3 Skl and effectively -1 Spd, as she is slowed down by two points even by Iron Bows. However, Ronan has an additional point of movement, three movement stars (or "Vigor", as this translations calls it) to Tanya's zero, and enough Con to rescue Leif.
Overall, Ronan seems like an upgrade to Tanya, whose main feature is her support for Osian and Dagdar. But of course, I don't know how exactly their growths compare - I do know that Ronan has a substantial Mag/Res growth, as well as a small chance to level +Mov, but I don't know if that comes at the cost of lower Str/Spd growths.
Ronan is a meme. He has like, zero strength growth, all the magic that he gets absolutely no use from, and then he's basically just a big move guy. Somehow proving movement isn't everything.
Tanya's probably slightly better, but neither's really all that.
58 minutes ago, ping said:
...and it comes without reward. Good character, I've been told.
Scrolls and gear help, but there's a reason the strat is to give him all the rings. Well, there's multiple reasons, actually. We'll get to that.
59 minutes ago, ping said:
: "Augustus, at your service.
Oh, is he still Augustus? I thought they updated the patch already to remove the us since Heroes established August as canon.
1 hour ago, ping said:You just didn't play Genealogy often enough to appreciate its finer points. Before criticising it further, you should play it again. I'm sure that will improve your opinion on it.
Shaky just cannot win. I, on the other hand, do not know the meaning of the word lose.
1 hour ago, ping said:And to avoid the obligatory Katie Tiedrich, an alternative that I saw on Reddit just recently...:
It takes two comments' worth of scrolling down to find the obligatory Katie Tiedrich.
Anyway, yes. The battle panties are indeed stupid as well.
1 hour ago, ping said:I'll say that Sigurd managed some character development of his own, going from "I'll just seize one more castle. And then another one. And then..." to actually conferring with Queen Rahna about the best course of action. His growth was just cut short before it could arrive somewhere. I really think he's one of the better FE lords, as far as the story is concerned - it's just too bad about his son.
Yeah, no complaints about Sigurd. He's a very solid protagonist. Somehow, because Kaga didn't care as much about him lmao
1 hour ago, ping said:Looks like you got some required watching to do.
Is he an actual giant or was Bruce Lee just that tiny?
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31 minutes ago, BrightBow said:
Btw, the Light Sword can also be used for a full heal. Another little perk that your average "Rapier" does not have.
Right out of the gate we have just so many interesting tools here. 2 magic swords. 2 double attacking weapons. Othin with his ability to always deal critical hits on counter attacks and to also deal reliable critical hits with his personal throwing axe. 2 units in advanced classes. And also some really useful support bonuses, which are quite potent due to PCC and because base weapon accuracy is not terrible high.
Thracia's usage of gear and weaponry (and by extension, the capture system) is by far the coolest part of it, in my opinion. The light sword is a nice introduction to this. It's such a cool lord sword.
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16 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:
I'm in the weird spot of agreeing that "Lance Lord Eliwood" would be better for FE7, while also thinking that Eliwood using the Rapier - like his future son, Roy - is pretty neat, actually.
That might be how it came to be, actually. They gave Roy a rapier because Marth expy, then they gave it to Eliwood because he's Roy's dad so it's appropriate that they're identical, and then after they just kept doing it.
They at least bothered to rebrand it for Ike, but it's the exact same sword. Even though the games became less and less reliant on armored enemies and the ol' rapier became less useful for each protagonist.
16 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:Would Lance Eliwood now get Maltet, from Ilia? And if so, would Lyn switch over to the Durandal?
I mean, Hector already gets randomly warped to the Western Isles to get Armads. They also made up a completely superfluous, contradictory curse attached to Armads just to heavy-handedly foreshadow chapter 3 of FE6. I really don't think Eliwood warping to Ilia would've been that bad.
16 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:If they were gonna mess with Murdock, they could've at least changed to his real name: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar!
Uh, yes!
...Who?
8 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:About that...
Classes
The “Lycian Knight” appears to be the predecessor of Eliwood’s Lord class; it is a mounted class that wields both swords and lances (with a higher proficiency in lances) and promotes into a Paladin. The “Lycian Swordfighter” is almost identical to Lyn’s Lord class, but promotes to Swordmaster instead. Hector’s “Lycian Armorknight” class promotes to General and can wield both swords and axes. All three classes share the map and battle animations of the Lord classes and, in the English version, they have the same names as the corresponding promoted Lord classes (eg. Lycian Knight is named Knight Lord).
https://serenesforest.net/general/unused-content/
There is a prototype of Blazing Blade with Lyn having a custom animation for using Durandal. -But the prototype also has Knight Lord in it with Durandal animation, so maybe the prototype came later, either at a point when: Sami and Andy would share Durandal, or, before Green got the Sol Katti invented for her.
-If Roy's Ma Boi would've ever actually was going to get Maltet. But the thing is, swords are the privileged weapon type of heroes. Eli is the most important of the Blazing Blade lord trio by far, he is the mainest lordest, the game is called "Rekka no Ken", Roland was the founder of Lycia. It seems inevitable that Eliwood would been destined for Durandal from the very start, so Lycian Knight's higher starting lance rank... not sure why that would be.
Damn. Eliwood could've been cool.
...Or Shon, at the very least.
5 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:Something something I hate fe7 promo bonuses
If you're crazy enough to get Bartre to promotion level, he gets... 0 speed. There's a non-0 chance he'll get to the endgame as a warrior with 3 speed.
5 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:At least for the story. The maps near the end are something you'll want to murder relatives to excuse yourself out of. You can warp skip them, but then you'll be a coward.
The topic was story here.
The maps... we'll get to 'em.
5 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:This game is your country. It's all your fault.
Ach, true.
5 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:I can't think of trials without imagining Gotoh, followed by Ruben seething.
Grrrr, grrr Gotoh grrr.
3 hours ago, Revier said:Yeah.
Shoving Miledy into every single encounter.I shove Wendy to encounters instead. She'll be very good any second now. Any second now!
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On 5/3/2024 at 10:41 PM, ping said:
Dayni had requested a party with Marty, although he hasn't been around for a good while now. We'll see how things are when we find the Forseti and Odo scrolls.
Well, I imagine Shaky can sponsor the boy in Dayni's absence.
On 5/3/2024 at 10:41 PM, ping said:On 5/3/2024 at 10:24 PM, Saint Rubenio said:She's also kinda dead, I believe, killed by the Empire. Although that information comes from Lewyn, so he might just not have bothered looking for her.
Plot twist: She went into hiding. She's been living in the seas for 7 years.
On 5/4/2024 at 2:51 AM, BrightBow said:On 5/3/2024 at 10:03 PM, ping said:Urgh, why did the translators think some random local militia needed a fancy name? Idk, maybe this is a Heroes thing.
Fairly certain it is a Heroes thing, yes. One thing that's consistent across all fanslations is that they feel the need to rush to update stuff, down to specific lines, when they show up in Heroes. Even with stuff like names, where it's blatantly clear it's just some intern machine gunning their way through a list of names with zero context.
I mean, fuck, remember really early on where they went Nimue and Mardok even though they had already gotten official names in FE7? Pffft.
On 5/4/2024 at 2:51 AM, BrightBow said:Anyway, Marty is... bad. But not as bad as he looks. Warrior class bases are amazing and he has good bulk. Which is nice because speed and skill shortcomings are much easier to address. Joke character he is not.
On the contrary, I'd say this only exacerbates how much of a joke unit he is. He arrives with all zero stats, has Bantu-tier growths, and if you're crazy enough to get him to promo he gets enough stats gets to make sages blush. It's a wonderful punchline.
On 5/4/2024 at 5:40 AM, Revier said:You know that sounds good and all but aren't you being a mite reckless? Finn and Eyvel didn't shelter you in vain.
Game so far feels like a pared down Genealogy, but I'll give it some time, after all this is the literal beginning of the game.
It gets better as it goes and Leif starts to undergo - gasp! - character development? In my FE lord?
...You know, kinda the opposite of FE4, which peaks early in chapters 2 and 3 and proceeds to swiftly roll down a cliff for the rest of the game.
On 5/4/2024 at 7:51 AM, Shaky Jones said:Wow Ruben, you're a real piece of shit.
Dammit Shakes, I don't remember it!
On 5/4/2024 at 7:51 AM, Shaky Jones said:Wow Ruben, you're a real gaslighting piece of shit.
What did I even do now?!
On 5/4/2024 at 9:24 AM, ping said:
Left: Leif's mouth. Right: Leif's mouth (ANGRY).
When you zoom in that far it looks like a small pixelated face instead of a mouth.
Wicked...
On 5/4/2024 at 9:24 AM, ping said:I do qualify in that category by having strong opinions on certain character designs of post-Awakening FE.
It's okay, you can say Nowi. Even Awakening fans defend that Nowi's a good character shackled with a godawful design.
On 5/4/2024 at 10:57 AM, BrightBow said:I suppose now that we are 5 games in, it might be worthwhile to reflect on some things we haven't seen 5 times.
For one thing, Marth is still the only protagonist who starts with a Rapier or a functionally identical weapon with effective damage against cavalry, armors and a small crit bonus.
There has also so far been only one trio of playable Pegasus Knight sisters with the Triangle Attack. Even if their appearance in Gaiden means they aren't strictly limited to just Marth's games.
Marth's games are also the only ones were you start out with a level 1 Paladin with a Silver Lance.
A lot of things just suddenly became "obligatory" with FE6 because that's how FE3 had done it.This is true. Not everyone needed a rapier. They could've had more fun with the concept of early lord weapons. Heck, what use do Eliwood and Eirika ever get out of the rapier? Coulda given them a magical sword, would've benefitted them a whole lot. Well, I believe Eliwood should've had lances to complete the weapon triangle of the lords, and also to actually be consistent with 6 where he has S lances and A swords in the trial maps, but I digress.
5 hours ago, Revier said:"You can't call Skyrim shit until you've played it for 200+ hours!"
God I hate that argument. A video game is supposed to interest you as soon as possible, you shouldn't be obliged to play it for any extended length of time. Now ofc someone who spent more time on the game is generally going to have more to say than their counterparts, but that alone shouldn't make an opinion/impression any less or more valid.When this comes up I remember that Steam only allows refunds for games played less than 2 hours. Yes, it's an intentionally short window so that you're less likely to refund your games, but well, if I had to give every game 10 or 20 hours of "a chance", I'd never be able to get my bucks back from anything I dislike.
Of course, the argument is moot with older games that you don't pay for or physical games you can resell, but people seem to often forget time's a limited currency as well.
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1 hour ago, Venger_06 said:
KINO
That's literally just white Zelkov. Cursed.
Also without context it looks like they met up in a private corner to flirt. And probably other things to do with the gun that guy's carrying in his pants.
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1 hour ago, Raseeth said:
I don't know what fe6 mod to use to play this game but I really want to play it plz someone tell me which fe6 vanilla mod to use to play fire emblem echesachs
I don't understand what you mean. All you need is a program to apply the patch (I like this one) an a vanilla FE6 ROM. That means no translation patch, it must be an original Japanese ROM of the game. It is against the rules to distribute those, so I can't help you there - you'll have to find it by yourself.
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4 minutes ago, ping said:
...do I dare?
Somewhere in this thread, Saint Rubenio made the suggestion that I should play Thracia 776 blind - or at least as blind as I can, since I did watch dondon151's run of the game years ago when it came out, and didn't actively avoid any spoilers about the game at any point.
Did I?
Dang, I don't remember. What were my arguments?
4 minutes ago, ping said:So, during this playthrough, I will avoid looking anything up on Serenesforest or the wiki. However, I'm not sure if it's to the benefit of the playlog if I'm ignorant about stuff like character recruitment or gaiden requirements (two things that I'd always recommend to new BinBla players even if they want to avoid spoilers), so I'm asking if I should accept help from readers for stuff like that or if
y'all hate me and/or want me to hate this game"almost blind" is still a playable proposition.Bluntly: The gaiden maps are some of the worst maps in the game. At the same time, there's some decidedly nice stuff in them. I couldn't really tell you what's the most "we hate you and want you to suffer" option, to help you get them or not.
...Ehh, I suppose we'll see.
5 minutes ago, ping said:Everything else, no idea. Maybe something will come back when I see the map in question, but chances are that I'm going to miss plenty of gaidens and that I'm going to murder Xavier if I won't know about them beforehand.
I can help you with Xavier. That's something I'm willing to help with.
6 minutes ago, ping said:The gameplay hasn't even started yet, and we already have a villain pulling the "I have you now, my pretties" and "Ah, a spirited one" tropes. Wonderful.
Shouzou Motherfucking Kaga.
6 minutes ago, ping said:
: "OK, enough chatter! Let's give the Empire a battle worthy of our names as Freeblades!"
It's not really à propos of this dialogue, but I'm curious if the possibility of Finn recognising Eyvel as Bridget will ever come up. Because even if we accept that the two may not have interacted much, if at all, between Bridget joining in Orgahil and Quan leaving from Silesse - she also happens to look exactly the same as the girl whose rescue was the very first mission that Finn joined Sigurd on. He should, at the very least, suspect a connection.
If he does recognize her, he's very, very slow on the uptake.
6 minutes ago, ping said:(By the way - I'm grabbing the portraits from this page - so I learned that Leaf has a second, very slightly different portrait. I'd gauge the chances of me noticing if/when he uses it at any point at roughly 0.294%.)
Leif's the first in Kaga's proud tradition of lords with smiling/frowning portraits that are two or three pixels off of their regular portraits. Marth doesn't count because he's actually noticeable. It gets particularly ridiculous in Berwick Saga, where Reese's smile is not only almost impossible to discern, it also makes his portrait slightly blurrier.
8 minutes ago, ping said:Anyway - Leif. From what I know, he's supposed to be better than he looks, which is good, because his base stats honestly make Roy look positively swole. He does have a very good personal weapon in the Light Brand - although it weighs him down to zero, and unlike Eyvel's Flame Sword, it doesn't strengthen its ranged attack with a +5 Mag bonus.
It is worth noting that, unlike Roy, Leif is facing a game with universal 20 caps. Relatively speaking, their bases are about equal. And Leif has a million advantages compared to Roy.
11 minutes ago, ping said:
He genuinely has an even worse start than Roy on hard mode, who at least has weapon triangle on Ch.1 enemies and, starting in Ch.2, can double the Soldiers that he's at a disadvantage against. Well, Leif does have 2-range over Roy, of course, at least until you get the Light Brand in BinBla, too.
This is true. The stats may be relatively about on par but Roy gets a ton of axe users to fight early on, whereas Leif gets to eat lances in his first chapter. The weapon triangle in this game is pretty weak but it's still a thing nonetheless.
12 minutes ago, ping said:
Weapon Levels: Axes (A), Bows (E)
Skills: Accost (add a round of combat if Dagdar's HP and AS are than the opponent's)Dagdar seems... good. Just a big ol' ball of stats. Maybe a bit slow considering he's pre-promoted (same Spd as Osian), but as soon as he can grab an axe with more than 50 hit, he should be really good until he leaves the party. He seems similar to Oifey or BlaBla!Marcus in that I would assume that other characters will out-stat him when they promote, but who knows - maybe his stats are still endgame-ready. Since my Thracia experience comes from Dondon's run, I obviously don't have any idea how growth rates look in this game.
Endgame Ready Beard 1
Yeah, sure, low speed, but enemies in this game aren't super stat balls. Dagdar lasts the entire game - and with scrolls, it's not that difficult to make his stats better, if you feel so inclined. There's flashier options, but you can always rely on Dadgar.
12 minutes ago, ping said:
Weapon Levels: Bows (E+10)
Skills: --His daughter seems... bad. Kaga did Rebecca first. Well, maybe - Rebecca has at least decent growths, which I don't know Tanya has. I do know that Thracia is considered to be unkind to bowlocked units, and I also know that another archer joining next map (iirc - could be later, though) who has +1 movement over her and a small chance to gain more via level-ups. She does at least seem to have excellent Spd, although I don't know how difficult it is to double enemies, generally speaking.
Yeaaaah it'd take another game for Kaga to begin my favorite of his stereotypes - the unbelievably badass, insanely good prepromoted female sniper that joins really early. I guess Bridget kinda counts but she's late.
In any case, instead we get meme archer. She's not as memeish as the next one - which can be argued isn't even a good thing lmao. I kinda like her though, so I've given her a couple chances.
14 minutes ago, ping said:
Weapon Levels: Axes (D+20)
Skills: --Bord 2: Bord Harder (Electric Bordaloo).
...no, I tell a lie. Bord has a Skl stat. I think Marty combines his literal zeroes in Skl and Spd with bad growth rates, so he's very much the joke character of this game.
And then there's Mememan. Mememan is very funny. I wouldn't bother giving him many kills until you get a few scrolls, if you want to go down that route.
14 minutes ago, ping said:And I'm very boring with the boss kill. I guess I could've tried to give it to Leif instead, but I'm not going to attempt to punch through +10 Def tiles unless it's absolutely unavoidable.
...which does remind me of another Gaiden requirement. On the map that Marty rejoins, you have to capture the boss, but you have to do so quickly because he'll find a dragon in his backpocket and become an uncapturable Wyvernknight. Anf if you don't do that, I think Dagdar and Tanya will be lost forever...?
It's very weird. Dagdar OR Tanya will rejoin, but only if one of them is dead. If you fail to get 8x with both alive, they are lost forever. Thanks, Kaga!
15 minutes ago, ping said:
To be honest, unless somebody has a very convincing argument otherwise, this has LEIF written on it in very large letters
The pro strat is to just give all these early rings to Leif, yes.
15 minutes ago, ping said:
: "Darndest thing... I was walkin' past the lake up on the mountain, when this strange ol' crone just floated outta the water!"
That's not a very nice thing to call Queen Rahna, girl.
I mean, keep in mind this is close to gen 2. Gal's gotten older, but she still takes her intercontinental swims. What a trooper.
16 minutes ago, ping said:
So, to the next chapter we go. As I said - pretty standard first map for a FE game, just with lances instead of axes. Maybe to drive home the point that Leif is in deep doodoo, so he doesn't even get a Verdane arc to weapon triangle all over his enemies.
Although, come to think of it - this *is* the first first map that takes place inside of a village, isn't it? The Akaneia maps tend to be more zoomed out (like FE1's first map being the entire island of Talys), not to mention Genealogy, and Gaiden's fights take place on open terrain, in dungeons, or at fortresses. So I suppose this only "standard FE fare" in hindsight.
Yep, there's a couple factors like that to set this map apart from its brethren.
...Not to worry, though. There's always next chapter.
17 minutes ago, ping said:- I believe T776 goes back to the classic "promote at Lv.10+, max Lv.20, promotion resets level", right?
Ye.
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I say we give Jugdral to Hannibal.
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22 minutes ago, BrightBow said:
Well, 70. In that post he said that he was 69. About to become 10 years older than Eugen, as he put it.
Oh right. Whoops.
Well, there's still time, I'd say, but I suppose there's only one way to find out.
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5 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:
...I thought I remembered reading somewhere that Riev had influenced Lyon to experiment on Grado's Sacred Stone. Thus creating the Dark Stone, and reviving the Demon Lord.
Then again, maybe this was somebody fanficcing all over the fan wiki. It might've really just been an unhappy coincidence.
I don't believe it's ever implied, no. There's no sign of Riev in any of Knoll's flashbacks and he's only made general after the conquest of Renais. Riev also never gloated about having done anything substantial, which is a very Gharnef thing to do - on the contrary, he spends the lategame being angry at Rausten and giddy about Fomortiis's return. Even Fomortiis himself, after being revived in Ephraim route, talks about having influenced Lyon and Lyon doing the rest.
There's nothing hinting at Riev having a hand in any part of the debacle beyond simply helping out with the conquest of the Sacred Stone nations as another general. And of course, from a Doylist perspective, the story works way, way better if it's the result of Lyon's hubris and insecurity rather than "heh heh heh ugly old man doing ugly old man things." I like Riev than most but I probably wouldn't if he played more of a role. Let Lyon shine, he's the best villain in FE.
5 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:Just make Daein materially dependent on reparations from Begnion. For a year, it was offered freely by the Apostle. But following the Senate's palace coup, Lekain puts strings on it. Fight the Laguz Alliance, or your people starve. Neither war-shaken Crimea, nor the dispossessed Apostle, can provide the same resources. It's the same endpoint, but with less magical mumbo-jumbo.
Much more grounded, yes.
5 hours ago, BrightBow said:And yet it took him until Berwick Saga to turn women into actual inventory items.
Pfft. I almost forgot he did that...
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Just now, BrightBow said:
Yeah, it's a proper Berwick Saga base menu and everything. And there are several optional missions you can pick before progressing into chapter 16 proper. This is also where the score shop is.
One step closer to that Berwick remake.
I mean clearly he has Berwick in his mind, he calls tiles "hexes" in the lance interface lmaoJust now, BrightBow said:I was content with the very likely reality that we will never see Vestaria Saga III, but all those new features do really make me wish for it to become a reality somehow. You know, having a game that is designed with all of those features from the ground up.
VSI+ is a very elaborate remake, but it's not redoing the whole game from scratch.Ehh, as someone who's quick to lose hope, don't be so quick to lose hope. Kaga's 60, not 80, and he later stated that he may have made his issues seem more severe than they really are. There's still plenty of opportunity for him to regain his motivation, especially now that the VS1 remake is done and he (seemingly) has fans helping out with art assets and the like.
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13 minutes ago, BrightBow said:
Those new maps that were added to chapter 15x seem nice.
I mean, I can't understand what anyone is actually saying, but it does look like a bunch of little side stories focusing on specific characters with the main character nowhere to be seen. Kinda like Fire Emblem BS.
And making Redessa this base of operations for a while really scratches that Navaron itch.
Oh they made 15x better? That's neat.
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1 hour ago, Jotari said:
Honestly I feel like Riev doesn't even do anything at all. He basically stands around looking menacing and then you fight him twice near the end where it's a moment of "Oh yeah, that guy's still alive." Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but he actually has zero connection to Lyon's experiments or corruption and stuff. That's all Knoll's territory. Lyon just got corrupt all on his own and Riev basically just showed up afterwards to do the Demon King's bidding, being lucky enough to be the one crazy satanist worshipper who happens to be alive at the same time his god is actually returning by sheer happenstance. Not saying it be necessarily better if Riev was the man behind it all, it's good that Lyon is corrupted via his own ambition and naivety rather than some obviously untrustworthy guy telling him to do something obviously shady. But it does leave Riev largely without a role or purpose in the plot other than to be basically Xemcel (I do wish Xemcel got to stand around looking menacing earlier in Shadow Dragon though).
Riev is by far the best bonus unit though. A staffs+slayer+defense better than Moulder = a monster's worst nightmare.
Responding to this here because this is where it's supposed to be.
Yeah, that's what I meant when I said he's just an underling that knows more. Beyond knowing more he's basically just another general on the same level as Caellach and Valter. Perhaps he was meant to be a sort of red herring - you take one look at him and go "it's him, he's the guy behind everything", but then it turns out he's just coincidental and it was all Lyon, all the way.
54 minutes ago, ping said:Let's say we have patience for different things. Reminder that you made a hack of Binding Blade.
Hah! Fair enough. That truly was an ordeal.
54 minutes ago, ping said:Ah, but does Hannibal have an exploding Zeppelin named after him?
No, but he does have an icon of horror media named after him.
54 minutes ago, ping said:That's the thing, though - virtually all of P3 rests on the awfulness that is the Blood Pact, so it's hard for me to see anything that happens as separate from it. Miccy vs. Ike for good reasons maybe could've been cool, but Miccy vs. Ike because Pelleas didn't read the small print is something I can't care for. By contrast, Seliph's story is just... not good. I can't say I prefer one over the other, I just find them bad in different ways.
You hate part 3 because of the blood pact.
I hate part 3 because Ike is extremely boring and his stats are too good and he ruins the game.
We are not the same.
(For what it's worth, I can't hate the blood pact as much because I fucking love Pelleas's role in part 3 - though it could've still been made to work with a mcguffin more graceful than the blood pact, so eh)
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1 hour ago, Jotari said:
Honestly I feel like Riev doesn't even do anything at all. He basically stands around looking menacing and then you fight him twice near the end where it's a moment of "Oh yeah, that guy's still alive." Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but he actually has zero connection to Lyon's experiments or corruption and stuff. That's all Knoll's territory. Lyon just got corrupt all on his own and Riev basically just showed up afterwards to do the Demon King's bidding, being lucky enough to be the one crazy satanist worshipper who happens to be alive at the same time his god is actually returning by sheer happenstance. Not saying it be necessarily better if Riev was the man behind it all, it's good that Lyon is corrupted via his own ambition and naivety rather than some obviously untrustworthy guy telling him to do something obviously shady. But it does leave Riev largely without a role or purpose in the plot other than to be basically Xemcel (I do wish Xemcel got to stand around looking menacing earlier in Shadow Dragon though).
Riev is by far the best bonus unit though. A staffs+slayer+defense better than Moulder = a monster's worst nightmare.
Aptly put, just uh... wrong thread lmao
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14 minutes ago, Jotari said:
But I think he's just a dark mage working with Riev who is mostly by himself in his inexplicable worship of satan.
You know, for how much Riev screams "Gharnef expy", when you really stop to think about it, beyond his superficial design and demeanor traits he doesn't have that many things in common with Gharnef, does he?
He's not a secret mastermind behind the scenes, instead just being an underling with more knowledge than the rest; he doesn't seem to have a cult at all, instead summoning monsters or gathering remnants of Grado's army to do his bidding; he's a light mage instead of a dark mage.
...Eh, he's a Gharnef expy but I like him nonetheless. He has a funny laugh and he uses light magic, which is cool and interesting.
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11 hours ago, Shaky Jones said:
To top it off, he even re-recruits himself with his iconic catchphrase: "Rebellions are like seeds".
My favorite part of FE12 is when Wrys says "that wasn't even my best trap," unsheathes his levin sword and defeats Hardin singlehanded.
Anyway, yeah, this map's always a fun time. If only the rest of them could've been more like this.
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2 hours ago, ping said:
- and because Meng has Pursuit, Adept, and Critical, she's actually quite likely to kill Fee instead.
There would have been a possibility to kill Meng: Fee would have to bring her low enough for Altena to one-shot with Gáe Bolg without dying (not easy because, well, Earth Sword, Pursuit, Adept, and Critical) - in which case Sharlow could've warped Altena over after colouring Arion green, Leylia's could've danced for her (because Altena would have to move towards Sharlow first), and I would have to hope that I'd still be able to fend/block off Ishtar's squad well enough.
Unfortunately, I didn't keep a save file from only a few turns earlier, so I decided to just replay the entire thing and see that I can bring a larger force to face Ishtar east of Freege (and maybe not allow any of the Pegasi an abusive position like that again).
So, there goes Edda again (this time without allowing too many characters to be slept, by just rushing the castle with Seliph)...
...and Dozel's troops get decimated basically the same way as before - Dermott with Seliph's aura, and Nanna plus whoever else might be nearby.
You've more patience than I do. I would've just let Fee die lmao
2 hours ago, ping said:I'm happy to see Altena lay into Arion in this dialogue, although I think I would've preferred it without the "then strike me down" part, which has become a bit of a cliché with Sheeda's lesser clones. I think she could've gotten the same message across without it. "What do YOU want, Arion?! Kill me, your traitorous sister? Or do YOU want to die by my lance, to burden me with the crime of killing the man who is still my brother? What about your men? Whose hand do you want them to die by?! Travant... no, Father built a bridge for you to make peace with the liberation army and even with House Leonster. Do you want to destroy it so carelessly?"
...there I go writing fanfiction again.
Write away, I like it better than Caeda 2.
2 hours ago, ping said:
Meme line.
2 hours ago, ping said:
: "Indeed. Thracia yet hangs in the balance, and the people await my return."
: "Who better to lead the reconstruction of Thracia than a mighty war hero? Do your best for the youths of Thracia."
Me, a German, side-eyeing the wikipedia article on Hindenburg: "..."
The difference is that Hannibal is the most epic man in Thracia. I mean, who's the competition? Arion? Pfft.
2 hours ago, ping said:
Gay representation!
Not sure if this a rare edge case, a common bug, or something the translation patch messed up. So I'll just assume that this is canon and that Lester has a thing for moustaches.
I'm more interested in the fact that this man is apparently called Sigurd.
...Wait-- The eyes! I'd recognize them anywhere - He's the father of the constipated septuplets! What a twist!
2 hours ago, ping said:The very last piece of the story is one final tour of Jugdral. Frankly - a bit superfluous, since we already had the characters talk things out, but here we are.
Well, there's one thing to note here.
2 hours ago, ping said:
That being Verdane. With no canon heirs, there wasn't a chance to acknowledge it in the previous scene.
2 hours ago, ping said:God, even Sigurd and Deirdre are worse characters in gen2. It's been a thing with how Ares views Sigurd and Eldigan, but it's even more egregious here, how they literally become saints because... er, why exactly? Jamke's brothers were huge jerks, sure, but Sigurd arguably just swooped in, smashed the existing administration, and went on to more important castles to seize. While Deirdre... existed, I guess? I can buy that Verdanians might feel pride that Seliph, world saviour that he is, is half-Verdanian, but Deirdre honestly might be the least active character in all of gen1. She doesn't really do anything, things are done to her. The constant veneration of her seems rather unearned.
Let's not forget
unlike Kagathat they establish King Batou had been the one to unite the wildlands of Verdane and turned them into a peaceful and decently prosperous land. Until Sandima got in his ear and manipulated him, but that can't have been public knowledge. As far as the populace is concerned, Verdane was finally a nice place to live, until that blue-haired Grannvalian arrived, murdered everyone and abandoned them to fall back into anarchy once more. Heck, Batou died right when Sigurd conquered his palace - he'd definitely be suspected of Batou's death by the common folk.How in the world did all of this lead to Sigurd and his wife being revered by the Verdanites? It's actually hilarious how little Kaga cared about this place. But at least it got a cursory mention, unlike...
2 hours ago, ping said:TL;DR: The divine right of kings is restored, and the correct people are in charge. In Verdane, the one place where the correct bloodline died out, anarchy obviously follows, until the Über-correct king comes and restores the natural order. Everybody cheers. All is well.
And Miletos broke away from the peninsula and sank beneath the waves. Nobody cared.
2 hours ago, ping said:The guy feeding people to the giant spider in early Sacred Stones is a better villain than the entire Loptyr cult combined. He at least had fun.
Somewhere in the world, Novala is shedding tears of joy at the fact that someone actually remembered him. He truly has attained the fame and glory he had yearned for.
Well, that was fun. I'll tell Shaky he can return to the thread now. Next up is Thracia, my personal favorite of the Kaga FE era and also my favorite FE story depending on which day you ask me. On Wednesdays Lyon and his cadre carry Sacred Stones to the top. We'll see how you feel about it.
15 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:Heuga: I’m curious about Julia being the only character made to be overpowered against the final boss. You’d think that the legendary weapons and the protagonist would be even a little stronger against it.
Kaga’s comment: Julia is a human of course, but her role is similar to that of the Falchion in the previous games. It is still possible to defeat the final boss even without Julia, it’s just more troublesome (laughs). To tell the truth, Seliph’s arc reached its climax with the defeat of Arvis, so the Final Chapter is more like an extra addition.
Julia defeating Julius is not meant to come off as her defeating her brother, but more of her driving Loptyr out of her brother’s body. So, no matter how you look at it, it’s not wrong to say that Julia saved Julius. That’s why Julia is the one with the power to defeat Julius, and not anyone else.Sharing.
Kaga comparing Julia to a sword lmao. Class act as always.
4 minutes ago, Shaky Jones said:Oh fuckin finally
Oh, there you are.
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The setup is already there, even. Remember TTYD, how Luigi had these adventures he went on that he narrated to Mario when they met up at Rogueport? Make a game about those! Or anything, really. More Loogi is always welcome in my book.
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1 minute ago, Imuabicus der Fertige said:
He killed the least worthwhile simp? Are you... really proud of that?
I mean, certainly, he's not as powerful as the Warlord of Grust, Yubello, but he's still a pretty tough opponent and Matthis just dunked on him.
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1 minute ago, Imuabicus der Fertige said:
What shit stats do to a mf
or not being a christmas cav, Hardon joins immediately after tooAll you need to do is believe in him. Look at my sig - that Matthis killed "greatest knight in the continent" Camus so fast, he couldn't even say his battle quote. No rigging or any other shenanigans involved, I just believed in him and he rewarded my faith.
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...I can't believe someone's arguing in Gotoh's favor to me and I'm agreeing.
Yeah, you know what? Fuck Athos too. Let's move on from all these godawful godly men and instead focus on the real awesome old guy in the series, who was introduced just last update.