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16 minutes ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Also the premier cause of death a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

Medically, she's completely healthy. For reasons we can't explain, we're losing her. We don't know why. She has lost the will to live.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So uncivilized.

16 minutes ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

The remake should have Laylea, in particular, emphasize her higher Strength growth by giving Bramsel a broken nose before she gets sent to the dungeon.

That's a wonderful idea. I hope Maeda is reading this.

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1 hour ago, BrightBow said:

The constant improvements of the advisor is really nice. I mean, we went from Malledus to Jagen to Levin to August until we finally arrived at nirvana with Eugen.

Eugen: The best part of TRS without even being playable.

24 minutes ago, ping said:

Ah. No, I'm not familiar.  I think the only FE fangames I played somewhat recently were Project Ember and The Sacred Rubens.

Fair enough.

24 minutes ago, ping said:

Now that you mention Alear's fear of the corrupted, I do remember that. I think my impression was more that Alear is especially sensitive to the "corruptedness", not that they are simply more fearful than other characters.

Yeah, that's what it ended up becoming after the executive meddling.

25 minutes ago, ping said:

Funny you mention this, Johalvier and Larcei are already married by the end of ch.7.

Pretty much to see if I can get Johalvier somewhere with some favouritsm. Since Larcei is filthy rich thanks to innate Paragon, she can make sure that he'll always be able to arena with the Paragon band, and maybe even another ring or two if required. Once Leaf promotes (probably start of next chapter; he's at 10.97 by the end of ch.7), I might even put the Pursuit band on Johalvier instead of Arthur or Tinny.

Ayyy Johalvier appreciation. Make my guy into a warrior to... still fall behind because lol infantry in FE4, but hey.

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21 minutes ago, ping said:

Whoops... I meant "Astria" ( = Astram), but as somebody who occasionally watches competitive StarCraft 2, my mind went to this fellow. I don't recall any threats of decapitation uttered by him, though.

For me, it brings the mind to FE fangame Sun God's Wrath. Don't recall if you played that one or read my LP of it, but without delving into detail, suffice to say that game's protagonist, Astrea, indulges in some... strategic decapitation at one point.

22 minutes ago, ping said:

I remember Alear being a coward near the start of the game... which lasted roughly 30 seconds and I don't remember a second time this came up. Can't have the player insert display actual weaknesses, now can we?

It comes up, very subtly, a few other times where corrupted are concerned. Alear's terrified of them. However, it's all very lowkey, and for the most part they're just "protagonistic protagonist." Again, the writers wanted to really push Alear's cowardice and their growing out of it in the story, but the higher-ups said... well, yeah, the bolded part, pretty much. Thanks a fucking lot. Hope they're happy now that Engage is widely regarded as one of the worst stories in FE.

24 minutes ago, ping said:

(I suppose I wasn't clear enough, but was referring to that same line. I, as a translator, would've absolutely gone for "Mystletainn is aching for blood." there, unless Ares has an even better line somewhere)

That's probably the wording a FE4 remake would go with, to be consistent with Owain/Odin. Unless, of course, they too forget, which wouldn't surprise me that much.

24 minutes ago, ping said:

Ah. That answers my previous question.

To be fair, the monocle is a rather major advantage.

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9 minutes ago, Jotari said:

>.> ...I hate how close to being right you are

If it helps, basically the only thing Reptor has going for him is the rad monocle and not being surrounded by more interesting family members. He's less boring but more by context than any merit of his own.

9 minutes ago, Jotari said:

I like it for what it does for Lewyn's character. In that the whole messianic myth is something artificially arranged by Lewyn to help bring about victory. Unfortunately Seliph just doesn't do anything with it himself. Doesn't embrace it, doesn't reject it, doesn't feel stressed about it, doesn't feel cocky about it. He's such a frustrating character that Seliph. I like how he acts in pretty much every conversation he has, but he's just lacking any kind of cohesion to have a core character or a proper arc leading him to be just so god dang bland. Putting me in the situation where my favourite Fire Emblem narrative has my least favourite protagonist (including all those modern avatars...but not including Itsuki, because no one's more bland than Itsuki).

Sometimes stories are more than the sum of their parts. Not that uncommon to have a story you love with a protagonist you just don't jive with.

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Whoops, two updates!

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

I probably don't need to reiterate that this isn't exactly my favourite character archetype. A few bonus points, I suppose, for cutting her losses and not insist that Shanan is totally into her.

Anyway - I wasn't aware that there's a second Brave Sword available, and this early, too. I don't think I'll keep it on Seliph, though. He has about 70 kills on his Silver Sword at this point, and while the Brave Sword is much more reliable in dishing out that extra damage, there's a few other characters that wouldn't mind grabbing it. Leaf, who is using the inaccurate Silver Blade as his hard-hitting option, or Nanna, who doesn't have any hard-hitting melee sword at all right now, or even Patty after she promotes (and this second Brave Sword honestly is a pretty good argument for Holyn!Patty).

I don't recall if this is a thing with her sub.

...Yeah, seems like it is. Neat.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

Not everything about that scene is bad. It made me think of the music video for Everlong, so that's what I'm listening to right now.

Yeah, not quite an enemy on the level of Clement, this guy.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

: "So you're the rebel army... This is where your insurrection ends! So long as I, General Liza, draw breath, you shall never reach Melgen!"

: "Ahhh... Ish... tore..."

Well, as I said last update - Liza is not particularly tanky.

Goodbye, recolor of a decently interesting character despite her two lines in the whole game.

...They really shoulda done more with her, honestly.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

: "You... You vermin! How dare you slaughter Liza like that! You'll have no mercy!"

It's a neat detail that Ishtore's battle (and death) quote change depending on whether or not you killed Liza before facing him. He's obviously not much of a character, given how little time he has spent on-screen, but he seems to work decently well for what he's supposed to do.

Next turn, Forseti. Adept. Dead Ishtore.

: "Liza... I..."

Yeah that's a pretty neat detail. This alone makes him beat Blume, which means he's officially the most forgettable member of his entire family. (Sorry, Jotari)

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

 

So I know that Ishtore is going to come up again, which could change my opinion on him to the better or worse, but I think that in this short segment, he... works. Lewyn's comment that, no matter how affable Ishtore may have come across, he's still fighting for an utterly despicable cause, is a nice change of pace from the usual Camüh sob story, that war is so cruel because it forces good people to kill each other.

One thing people give Gen 2 Lewyn credit for is that he doesn't mince words. He's... not quite as good at that as Thracia 776's brilliant main advisor, but he's getting there. Certainly beats Malledus.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

Also *sigh*, but for the very different reason that I'm going to have to remember which witch is which.

: "I want you to show these rebel pigs just what it is that the Empire can do!"
: "Yes, milord. Leave it to us. We will never let you down, milord. The rebels shall be destroyed quickly, cleanly, efficiently and utterly. Excuse us, milord."
: "Hmm! Everything depends on you.

Okay, before it wasn't as poignant, but now it really is the time to make the joke.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

That entire part is filled with so much dumbassery. Ares for thinking Bramsel wouldn't try anything with Laylea once he was away, Jabarro for not even trying to employ just a tiny wee bit of finesse so as not to end up on the receiving end of the dEmOn bLAdE, Bramsel for being Bramsel and Laylea... eh, Laylea's not really done anything wrong here.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

[HP 130% | Str 90% | Mag 5% | Skl 20% | Spd 30% | Lck 50% | Def 40% | Res 30%]
Skills: Pursuit, Adept, Vantage
Weapon Level: Swords (*), Lances (C)
Major Hezul blood

And here is Ares, who goes right from red to blue without the intermediate green step. Very considerate of him.

I'm happy to announce that, at this moment, his cousin Dermott actually has better stats - specifically, 7 points more Str (and +8 Lck, lol) and roughly similar numbers otherwise. But of course, Mystletainn makes that announcement moot. Its stat bonuses don't look too exciting at first glance - but because it also grants Ares the Critical skill, the +20 Skl matters a whole lot more than just for the accuracy. In addition to the 32% crit chance, Ares also has a 28% chance to proc Adept, which means that with every swing, Ares basially flips a coin to see if he does any bonus damage.

And, of course, even without a proc, Ares just hits really damn hard. Holy weapons tend to do that, and with a 90% Str growth, he's only going to hit damn harder.

In the final chapter I was basically done with this game's gameplay so I just threw Ares at everything with Shannan's backup and the game played itself. Le that be a testament to how hilarious this guy is.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:23 PM, ping said:

I also have to mention that, as somebody pointed out, Ares's mum must've been an incredible badass in her own right. Eldigan didn't have any skills whatsoever (outside of Mystletainn's Critical), so Ares inherited all three of his skills from her.

She was the continent's greatest warrior. Alas, she was taken by the greates affliction in anime middle ages: Grief.

On 4/2/2024 at 3:51 PM, RPGuy96 said:

Let me interest you in a game called Berwick Saga, made by one Shouzou Kaga...

Yes, let's talk about that...

54 minutes ago, ping said:

I know we're working on fundamental Fire Emblem logic here, but Tinni really seems to be Nino-in-Cog levels of not being appropriate to be sent into battle. "I never did want to fight..." - "Awesome, that means now you can fight... for us! Against your uncle!" An uncle who admittedly is a complete piece of shit, unlike Lloyd/Linus, but still.

Being fair, her mother's Hilda.

54 minutes ago, ping said:

Out of curiosity, I checked the wiki if Ares has any convos with Leaf. Nope. And really, all Ares needs to complete his Astrea cosplay is a Paladin wife with blue hair and awful stats.

Not entirely sure what the reference there is, but Astrea is a name that brings a different image to my mind.

54 minutes ago, ping said:

More seriously, I think this convo could've done with at least a little reference to Lene/Leylia. She's the one who first gave Ares doubt about the whole "Sigurd and Eldigan were enemies so grim, their enmity will span genearations!!" mindset, after all.

But what if dead already?

54 minutes ago, ping said:

: "Nngh... No... Darna is mine... All... Mine..."

Unlike Clement, you will be swiftly forgotten.

54 minutes ago, ping said:

OK, when I said in an earlier update that Seliph had "messianic" vibes, I wasn't aware of this conversation. But since I think I remember who is talking to Seliph here, that seems to be literally the case. Hm. Not sure how to feel about that.

Funny how this is basically the same as Engage's avatar worshipping. Yeah, the game acknowledges it, and that's cool. Doesn't make the protagonist any less of a bore. Except Alear has a few moments where they show a personality - and more were intended, but the executives forced the writers to make them more saccharine because what if otakus can't relate as much. Seliph... Yeaah... He sure is a character!

54 minutes ago, ping said:

Honestly, as trite as the whole "rescue your crush, all badass-like" story was, I don't mind Ares and Leylia as characters too much. It helps their case that their gen 1 equivalents were Lewyn and Sylvia.

They do beat Lewyn and Sylvia's dynamic, that much is true, and without Lene's portrait being an issue, we can safely call this one of the things gen 2 has over gen 1.

We'll get to the other one. When the time comes, you'll have to bear(d) with me.

54 minutes ago, ping said:

I can't say how the two's respective advantages weigh against each other, of course. Lene has potential inheritance (in particular the Knight Ring; I'd assume that Seliph would still call dibs on the Leg Ring), so she doesn't even need to go through the arena all that much. Leylia has Charm, obviously an excellent support ability, but we'll see how likely it will be in future chapters to have her actually apply it, between her frailty and the fact that it's a Dancer's job to move adjacent to characters who already acted, and then send them away from herself.

To be honest, yeah, Lene has her own advantages. It's more that they're close enough, and then the other child of Sylvia is way worse than his respective sub. One's got innate paragon and a unique item you can only get from him. The other needs a horrible pairing that isn't any good for him otherwise just to be able to get paragon - and considering what class and level he joins with, he needs it.

54 minutes ago, ping said:

...If I was in the translator's shoes, I'd totally see if I could smuggle in an "aching blood" somewhere. Even if it's just Mystletainn aching for blood.

I mean, he basically already says that with slightly different wording. Let's not forget, the Odin Dark shtick already is a reference to this. Remember Missiletainn?

1 minute ago, Jotari said:

As the world's only Bloom stan, I resent that statement. Tinny says Bloom was nice to her in her final chapter conversation with Arthur (contradicted somewhat by her blaming him for her mother's death in her battle quote with him in the following chapter, which itself is oddly contrasted with her battle quote in this chapter where she actually apologizes to him, I blame the rebels for poisoning her mind against the righteous and noble house Friege).

I'll give you this, I don't get why she's singling him out in that conversation. I thought it was primarily Hilda that ruined Tailtiu's life?

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10 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

This would later provide inspiration for the central conceit of Three Houses.

The game where two of the characters are childhood friends, and the other is just some rando they barely know that has no story relevance whatsoever. Genius!

10 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Totally unrelated to what you were saying, but I just noticed that these two have practically the same haircut. Maybe Shannan has been the one cutting Seliph's hair? Alternatively, Oifey's been on haircut duty, but he only knows one way of styling it.

Them and half the cast besides. It's just a really popular style in Jugdral.

10 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

I could forgive all that, if they didn't make him another boring general. He's not wearing armor, but a robe. Making him a Bishop, or maybe a High Priest, would be much more suitable, in my opinion. Especially if he's supposed to be in charge of the "holy city of Darna".

Oh, he was an armor? I forgot that.

10 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Speaking of "beard", something looks off... Hm...

...Oh, that's it! You've got a tan now! Had a nice vacation, I take it?

I don't know what you're talking about.

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50 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

I was about to, but you pulled a Kyouma

HYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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4 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

you just beat those chicken allegations like a champ

10/10

Who has ever dared call me a chicken, cheep cheep cheep cheep?

4 minutes ago, BrightBow said:

Adel looks a bit too much like Wang Fire for my taste, though.

Maybe he is Wang Fire. You ever stopped to consider that?

1 minute ago, Sidereal Wraith said:

 

Okay that's incredible, thanks Wraith.

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8 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

Have that Ward as your pfp

Sorry, you were saying?

4 minutes ago, BrightBow said:

Perfection.

I was actually kind of impressed by how many of them rock the look. Rosalie and Paramythis should adopt it permanently.

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I'd been sitting on this for a while. Never had a good opportunity to share anywhere.

But, today seems like a good opportunity for it. You see... I've improved the cast of everyone's favorite FE game, Berwick Saga.

Check it out.

Spoiler

 

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7 minutes ago, ping said:

It's common enough that kids and subs have the same dialogue that the wiki.org has that as the default ("All second-generation characters and their substitutes have identical dialogue except where noted. Second-generation children are used, except where substitutes have unique dialogue."), but there's stuff

Yeah, I forgot to clarify but I know there's some stuff. It's just... well, that there's enough for that note to be possible is just kind of lazy.

5 minutes ago, ping said:

or Tristan and Dalvin having a little crisis together (TL;DR: "Oh my god we both suck so much") in this chapter if both of them are below Lv.10.

Ahahaha! Oh yeah, I remember that one. They were right to be concerned, too, because the both of them were by far my worst units. Dalvin ended up dying in the final chapter to keep an absolute behemoth of a boss I didn't want to confront at all from capturing my first castle, and Tristan was so lame I made a disparging edit of his final stats. I don't know where that one went.

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50 minutes ago, ping said:

I'll just remember this incident if I ever have to wonder if Ruben is going to lead me astray

No that wasn't the point of this exercise, stop, stop, believe in meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

In all seriousness though. Come to think of it, I've been so focused on the Lene/Laylea thing that it didn't even register with me that this is how it is for all character/sub pairs, isn't it? I didn't even know that. I had always just foolishly assumed they'd write them different lines because, you know, different characters.

...Really being too charitable on gen 2 there, wasn't I...

5 hours ago, Jotari said:

Ha. Pretending like any of the Gen 2 cast have actual personalities.

Yeah, all in all, Jotari's probably got the right of it.

I stand by my point about Hannibal though

50 minutes ago, ping said:

Leylia's portrait does look, what, 6+ years older than Sylvia and Lene's (~20 years old instead of 14), which in itself is a significant point in her favour.

Yeah, exactly. Lene manages to look even more juvenile than Sylvia somehow. Blegh.

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14 minutes ago, BrightBow said:

Assuming Lene would be just as much of a tool as her mother is not being charitable with gen 2.

I mean, Lene's the one I saw. She's one of the only children I actually got. I was thinking Laylea wouldn't be the same, going by the far less... questionable design alone.

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12 minutes ago, BrightBow said:

Uh, no it isn't. Lene's and Leylea share the same dialog, barring their exclusive scenes.

Welp.

My bad for being charitable with gen 2, I guess.

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12 minutes ago, ping said:

But you see, it doesn't count as avatar worship because Alear is humble about it.

I mean, I do like how awkward and embarrassed Alear is about everyone worshipping the floor they walk on, but... Yeah, better to just not have the thing at all, honestly.

12 minutes ago, ping said:

I hate to tell you that the only spot where a quick Ctrl+F through the chapter's script returns "Leylea" is the village where she can get the Barrier Blade. If the archives aren't incomplete, that means that she has precisely the same dialogue as Lene.

Oh.

...Well, at least she has a less cringe design. So there's that.

In my own defense, this is the one pair of subs I didn't get, so I kind of just assumed, since she looks less childish...

12 minutes ago, ping said:

We're talking about Shouzou "let's disallow 0%/100% hit rates" Kaga here, so that sounds realistic.

lol

Just now, Jotari said:

Ha. Pretending like any of the Gen 2 cast have actual personalities.

HEY

Hannibal has a personality. It's called beard. How dare you imply otherwise.

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40 minutes ago, ping said:

Honestly, Blume is the only one that really looks non-recruitable here. Ishtore doesn't really look any more despicable than, say, Shinon actually is.

Yeah, I was more on about how Pigtails Mage overthere's design is so obviously more elaborate than the rest, but in this case it's not as bad. There's Liza being a recolor but at least she's only been used once before, unlike the one guy.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

To be honest, Ishtore looks even more garbage, since it's more difficult to avoid getting screwed by Adept than it is to avoid getting counter-killed because of a Pavise proc.

Yes, but Blume is a massively overleveled, legendary-wielding baron sitting on a castle all pavised up. Get ready for some RNG.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

Well, Rickard/Julian doesn't seem particularly accidental, either.

Hence why it doesn't count, see

40 minutes ago, ping said:

Hey now, the +3 Str village is still with us, in the form of 0.6 Str on Lester and 0.3 Str on... Lana.

Bad Ping. Go back and do it optimally. What if you need that +3 strength against the final boss?

40 minutes ago, ping said:

Evil fridging be like:

They should've fridged Seliph and let Oifey and Shannan be the main characters.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

Welp, I guess that T776's entire cast was wiped out in the failed mission Finn and Leif talk about at the start of the chapter.

There's theories that that's what happened, but... Eh, to be honest, T776 retcons enough things as it is. I suspect a FE4 remake will just establish Leif has an offscreen army doing things.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

: "Really? It's really, really you?! Wow! Oh my gosh, this is incredible!"
: "Er..."

Pffft. She's gonna wish she was Shannan's drinking water next?

...What a silly character that one was...

40 minutes ago, ping said:

__

Incredible indeed. Balmung is Forseti's physical equivalent - with even more speed because it's two points lighter, although of course Forseti's 1-2 range and res-targeting are a bigger deal than that. Still, with this, Shanan suddenly only faces hit rates of 16% from the nearby enemies instead of 56% - which gives him a decent chance to solo this whole area, but not without risk, because three Dark Mages (who two-shot him) will follow him and Patty.

See, even if you go for a subs only run, you basically have to extend the rule to "get Shannan killed immediatley" because otherwise it doesn't even matter. Shannan and the next fixed character can just solo the generation on their own with minimal help from the scrubs and Hawke.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

: "Milord, we've received word that the Isaachian rebels are on the move."
: "Isaachian rebels? Ah, the ones led by that brat... Celice, was it? Or Serlis? Something like that. Heh... Interesting. Very interesting, indeed!"

Love the "Celice" meta joke.

: "The Empire's put a hefty price on that boy's head. Let's make sure we're the ones to rake in that bounty, shall we? Keep our border locked down for the time being. The best option is to let them run themselves ragged, leaving them wide open to our strike! Instruct Commander Jabarro to put his squad on standby. His services will be needed in short order!"

Interesting twist on how the map will play out, too. I don't know how that'll be exactly, but pincer manoeuvres tend to be where Fire Emblem is at its most interesting.

Also interesting is how this guy is a recolor of Actually Interesting And Nuanced Bossman Clement. And he's, uh... let's just say, one of the least nuanced bossmen in the game. Funny how that works.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

Gotta give props to Leylia for just plain laugh at Ares for going, "Grr, my honour demands!". I feel like her argument that you shouldn't hate somebody for doing their job falls apart pretty badly in edge cases, but I appreciate the sentiment.

For the record, and in case you needed more proof that I have never, ever led you astray - As I recall (someone yell at me if I'm wrong), Lene's personality is exactly the same as Sylvia. Had you married the latter, you would've had to endure that again. Instead you get actually kind of badass dancer. No need to thank me.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

Perfect. No risk of death.

Overall, because Shanan has no way to heal himself until Lana slowly waddles close enough to use Physic on him, I found this part of the fight too "swingy" to be actually good. He's either lucky and keeps dodging the incoming 16%s, or he gets hit once and has to choose between running away or constant fear of death. My initial impression is that this would've worked better if Genealogy had Elixirs or some other strong, but expensive self-healing (with a nearby church maybe being too cheap). Gambling high-value items, or a decent chunk of money, in order to kill Ctuzof would've been fine, but I feel like this would've been a really annoying part of the map if Shanan hadn't been so lucky.

I guess Kaga figured 10%s across the board was reasonable enough.

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9 hours ago, BrightBow said:

Freedom Planet 2... Vestaria Saga I+... So close, yet so far.

Jamulan got some buffs. Multichance (?) and Axe Guard are whatever, but it seems he now also gets a skill that makes all his attacks against armored enemies deal effective damage. Nice to see that it looks like the K-man managed to implement even more genuinely interesting skills.
The remaining skill also seems to be new. Wish I could read the descriptive text.

Also chapter 19 now has both battle preps and the ability to take items from Zade's side. Interesting to see even Eddard listed here.

 

Jamulan becoming a dedicated armor killer is neat. Sadly it's probably not as valuable as it would've been in Berwick, but it's something interesting, at least. Jamulan was in a dire need of that.

Being able to warp items from the other side of the continent is super janky but, eh, preferable to just getting screwed, I guess.

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7 hours ago, Jotari said:

You're missing Camus and Nyna, the most plot relevant romance. There's also Samson and Sheena, and Abel and Est.

I mean decent romances.

Nah but yeah, Samson and Sheema is neat.

7 hours ago, Jotari said:

Just give them an instant marriage with each other.

FE4 remake, you know what to do.

6 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Ishtore only exists to

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Die, and for his death to motivate the women around him. ...Wait, did Kaga just invert a recurring sexist trope there?

Aida totally looks playable here, if not for the fact that she shares a mug with Liza in Gen I. Still, she's not ugly or cruel-looking, just serious. At worst, stern.

Actually, the other way around. Aida was from Gen 1, this is Liza.

Anyway, yeah, she's kind of like Hemorrhoids Knight in that she doesn't look overtly evil, but the reuses give her away. All things considered though, this is far from the funniest screenshot of this kind. Even if it's still plainly obvious who the playable is.

And hey, I actually didn't realize that first part. Huh. Interesting.

6 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Doesn't Leif lie about his identity, in their original encounter? That could lead to a rather humorous reunion. I could definitely imagine Hannibal giving "Lugh Faris" a thorough ribbing.

He does, but it's pretty heavily implied that Hannibal doesn't buy it for two seconds. He just chooses to play along.

6 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Hell, we can't even say for sure that there's only two of them. Maybe Tana and Innes were raised by a gay throuple.

Dang, you're right. We must look deeper into this. Who was the Kaga of Sacred Stones...?

6 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Also, I can't help reading Johan's last line in a way that's (probably) unintended. Adds an extra larf.

I may have realized the implications and paid them no mind.

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1 minute ago, RPGuy96 said:

Presumably this is supposed to be Kutuzov (Кутузов in Russian), who was a real life Russian general in the Napoleonic Wars, and a reasonably important character in Tolstoy's War and Peace.  It's maybe a bit of a stretch - and 130 years before most of Kaga's historical references - but guess who shows up in the arena:

3 hours ago, ping said:

(1) Tolstoy - Lv.1 Fighter

I believe there are versions where he was translated as Kutuzov, so yeah, that's probably the intended reference. Thanks for the heads-up!

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7 hours ago, Jotari said:

But as trivia, it's golden. Innes and Tana have a mother...how novel. Sure, like, most people do, but in Fire Emblem that's pretty cool. Good job guys.

It sounds so weird when you put it like that, but yeah, it's a real rarity in any FEs without dedicated marriage systems.

3 hours ago, ping said:

Hey, guess what, it's time for the same joke I make every time there's one of these screenshots.

...To be fair, Ishtore isn't particularly ugly. He could kiiiinda pass off as a playable. Except he's instead probably the most forgettable asshole that gen 2 pretends is kind of important. Wah wah.

3 hours ago, ping said:

 

The commander's portrait is the same as... I think Philip was the name? A miniboss back in ch.2, under the command of Elliot and Bordeaux.

Yeah, I think he's reused maybe once more? Or maybe he's only used twice. Honestly, could've given him a couple more appearances and cut back on the constipated knights.

3 hours ago, ping said:

Petition to add "nincompoop" to Shanan's offical royal titles. His Royal Highness, First Nincompoop of Isaach, Duke of Ganeishire...

One of these is more prestigious than the others.

3 hours ago, ping said:

: "What? Thieves have plundered our treasure? And they absconded with Balmung?! You fools! Go seize them! Now!"
: "Y-yess, Your Grace.... But, er, Your Grace... Surely a master of dark magics of your caliber could crush common thieves such as these with a single blow, even from here?"
: "I've misplaced my Book of Fenrir... My men are scouring the shrine to find it, but so far it has yet to emerge..."

Pfff...

Hello again to Sandima, by the way.

Kaga loves this gag so much. Eh, can't really fault him, it's an enjoyable one and a decent way to implement an incentive to hurry up.

3 hours ago, ping said:

Seliph might've been a much more interesting character if he had finished that sentence with "means of production". Then again, that doesn't quite have the same ring to it if it comes out of the mouth of a royal...

I mean, Kaga does write "1% of the population" in Vestaria Saga 1.

...But then he frames the head honcho of the 1% as a really awesome dude, and really the problem is the one evil ugly greedy politician, not the system. So uh.

3 hours ago, ping said:

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In the northwest, Shanan and Patty have to fight large numbers of Dark Mages, plus three Myrmidons. With their Jormungand tomes, the Dark Mages hit very hard and accurately, which makes the whole situation seem rather overwhelming for Shanan and Patty.

Genuinely curious how that guy's name is supposed to be pronounced. I googled it and it just shows the FE character, which is always a somewhat reliable sign of a name that's just gibberish they made up.

3 hours ago, ping said:

[HP 70% | Str 30% | Mag 5% | Skl 40% | Spd 30% | Lck 50% | Def 30% | Res 5%]
Skills: Pursuit, Miracle
Weapon Level: Lances (A)

We all remember Finn, of course, but just to show his stats as comparison...

With his Holy Blood-less growths, I can only assume that Finn won't be able to keep up with the young 'uns indefinitely, but right now, his stats are pretty incredible: Comparable bulk to Oifey, and the same Str as Dermott if you count the latter's Str ring. I'm curious if he can do Jeigen things and set up easy kills for Leif and Nanna - he does have three tiers of lances in his inventory to help with that, so I'm hoping for the best.

Honestly, I'm just fond of his status as the singular character to be playable in both generations. It's just a cool thing.

3 hours ago, ping said:

On the throne sits an opponent that even Finn's Miracle cannot beat reliably. Even under ideal circumstances, with Blume reducing Finn to 1 HP, he'll still have 27 hit on him... Well, 17 with Nanna's Charm skill, so maybe... But I'd have to set that up very carefully, since Blume would reduce Finn to far less reliable 4 HP from full HP.

But to be honest, I don't even know if there's any value in taking that risk. Heck, I'm not 100% sure if the path to Blume will be open or if the Knight squad will lock the door behind them.

This boss is complete garbage. I distinctly remember him. He's everything that sucks about FE4 bosses combined.

3 hours ago, ping said:

Hardin x Camüh - because a proper love triangle has three lines.

(I wonder, are there any excellent accidental gay ships in Akaneia? I can't think of any off the top of my head)

Archanea has almost no romances period. Marth/Caeda works very, very slightly if you squint really hard, Julian/Lena has like, one cool line, and that's about it.

...Also, Rickard/Julian. Not sure if I'd call that excellent, but... They do get the same amount of interactions as Julian/Lena (exactly two), and heck, in FE12 they actually get more, due to sharing a support.

3 hours ago, ping said:

I see. Syrene does have lower levels of anime face than your average FE girl (although that's not a great achievement). And SacSto's characters are indeed good and less one-dimensional, generally speaking.

There you have it. To its credit, I also find Vanessa and Tana less annoying/boring than most peggy sues. While not really enough to put them significantly above their brethren like Syrene, they're in the higher leagues.

1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

That is weird indeed. Why did he get one with her? Or anyone really? It's more awkward acknowledging Oifey can fall in love with any Gen 2 girl than excluding him from love convos yet leaving his inclusion intact. Was this foreshadowing that one age-difference pairing you found in Vestaria?

...Jesus fucking Christ, don't remind me of that without warning like that...

And yeah, Oifey and Shannan being able to fall in love with, potentially, the kids they helped raise is just... I mean, there's already that one other gen 2 fixed unit who cannot fall in love despite being of the same age as the rest of gen 2's cast, not to mention the old guy with the fantastic beard. Why not just extend that courtesy so those two?

1 hour ago, ping said:

That is true. Impressive for an entirely non-noble dude, then. Clearly, Finn is the Oifey of Genealogy.

Feed Oifey some kills, would you? Don't let him get outdone by... the guy who's probably older than him, come to think of it.

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40 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Hayden's wife! I sense a potential new addition to my list of every Fire Emblem character. How specific a detail are we talking?

 

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Tana: I'd like you to teach me...cooking.
Syrene: I can make some traditional Frelian dishes, but I'm no gourmet chef... But if you don't mind, then I'd be happy to teach you what I know.
Tana: Thank you! When I return home to Frelia after this war is over, I hope to cook my parents a proper meal to apologize for running off.
Syrene: I'm sure they'll be surprised to see how much you've grown out here. Surprised and pleased. They'll certainly forgive you for going off on your own.
Tana: Sometimes, I wonder... I do hope that they forgive me.
Syrene: Of course they will. They're angry because they're concerned. If you return safely, they will be relieved, not upset.
Tana: You're right... Thank you, Syrene. But it can't hurt to ease their anger with some good food!
Syrene: Right you are, milady. I'll teach you everything I know about food.

Mia-tier levels of obscure background character, but this spells it out rather clearly - not only does she exist, she's alive. She's not even mentioned in Tana's support with her brother (where they just talk about Hayden and make him out to be a rather bad dad), she gets no name - in fact, I'm just now realizing there's no gender mentioned either. For all we know Tana and Innes were raised by a gay couple and Sacred Stones is the most revolutionary game in the series.

1 minute ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

And if I told you Oifey grew that stache because Shannan wanted some daddy?😜  -Don't take that seriously, at all. I prefer keeping things serious, subdued, and somber with these two if I'm going to ship 'em. The lives they've lived together have not been in the least conducive to silly frolicking.

Their time together in each other's arms were the precious few moments of joy they ever got in their turmoil-filled lives.

1 minute ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

This instance even has total immunity from the variability of existence, since neither character is an unfixed child. It's either writing burnout from creating Gen 1 in all its elaborate detail even though we've pointed out holes in it during this playlog, or a simple mistake.

It really is just a strange omission. They have the most history together out of any characters alive in gen 2, spending a good 2/3rds of their lives living and working together. I can't claim to know what goes on in Kaga's mind, but if I were writing this game, I know this is one conversation I wouldn't just want to write - I'd be looking forward to writing it all game long. Certainly more than a random-ass lover convo with the generic pegasus knight.

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12 hours ago, BrightBow said:

Not to mention, if you talk to Johan's soldiers while they are yellow, they tell you that for all his simping, he treats his own underlings terrible.

Just a real charmer, that guy.

Hah! I didn't get that one, I don't think. Well, nobody's gonna miss him.

12 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

I mean, Johanlvier still kinda has dibs on the Brave Axe. He's the only one who can use it, until like chapter 9. Thinking on it now, maybe Johan isn't actually "Lex, but worse", but rather "Lex, but no better, in a world where he can't hope to keep up".

Huh. Didn't remember that, but yeah, that's right, there's basically no other axe users in this generation lol

12 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Ooh, that would work pretty well. Perhaps we could've gotten a scene of them arguing beforehand - or maybe Johan waxing poetic, with Johalvier just saying "...I hate you." - to really sell the antipathy between them.

"Johan can you stop talking about Larcei for five minutes? There's more to life than her."

"Maybe to you, my dearest brother. But I live for naught but love. Perhaps this is why she thinks the world of me, while she doesn't even know your name."

"Hey, what are you two layabouts doing? Go get more children from the villages! For, uh... you know, the imperial policy!"

"Ahh, maybe I'll run into my beloved Larcei on the way... Servants, fetch my steed! We must away at once! I'm coming, my love! I'm comiiiiiing...!"

"I hate it here."

11 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

That's why Edain survived, to non-awkwardly care for Larcei & Lana. 

The boys -Seliph, Ulster, Lester, Diarmuid- were usually under the direct fostering of Oifey and Shannan. Two now-grown men, who have known each other since 757, and are the only two who understand what each other has gone through in the past two decades. Thus, it should be of no surprise that during that time, particularly as they've engaged in some nontraditional parenting, they've developed certain affections for one another. Although they've rarely shown explicit tenderness to each other, they've been much too busy with more important matters, and Ulster was a such a crybaby that they rarely got to sleep alone for almost a decade.

And then Kaga decided to make them both able to marry kids 20 years younger that they raised because he doesn't know what the word gay means.

Good to see "Kaga's accidental gay ships are his best" is a Kaga convention that extends all the way back to his origins.

9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

I went to check as I wrote that out. The answer- they don't.

They should've, obviously, since they've the aforementioned two decades of history together. Genealogy Remake would hopefully fix this, and maybe bring both of them into Seliph's new chatty entourage.

(I'd definitely want Leif in the modern entourage too. I'd like Ares in there as well because he is a Major-blooded, and then we could have Sig-Quan-Eld Jrs. as a trio. Yet Ares's inclusion would be perhaps excessive, he isn't actually important at all. And I imagine we have to find an obligatory female -or probably two since Julia eventually leaves- to throw into it, to keep it from being total holy swordfest. However, Altena is optional and late, and any other female would feel very forced.)

Or, you know. Maybe it's not one of his best ships because he didn't even bother.

Gen 2 fucking sucks...

10 hours ago, Jotari said:

At least we get a line from Lewyn saying neither of the brothers cooperated with the child hunt orders and spared Isaach from the brunt of that horror.

Which, if anything, is out of character for Johan lol. They wanted to badly to make him out to be a completely horrible guy that they even established he treats his men like garbage (the mirrored convo just has one of Johalvier's men being the asshole and judging his taste in women instead). He doesn't seem like someone who'd be particularly bothered by the child hunts, unless it got in the way of his obsession with Larcei.

10 hours ago, Jotari said:

I love you.

I aim to please.

7 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Wait... why not have Edain function as Seliph's advisor? She's known Sigurd for longer than anyone still living, perhaps save Oifey. And no one's clamoring for her to be playable - and thus killable - in the second generation. As it stands, she just kinda... exists offscreen... for the first five minutes of Gen II, then disappears forever. Which is a real shame. Plus, she wouldn't have the whole... thing... Lewyn has going on, that I won't get into more because spoilers. Finally, while she's likely been hardened by her years of hardship, I can't see her being Lewyn-levels of jerk-ass to Seliph.

Give us an old (not really even old, just middle-aged) lady advisor, IS!

Oh I love that idea. That's a great idea.

7 hours ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:

Hannibal-Leif

You know, I never stopped to think about this, but... Considering it was the next game that established they know each other, I can't blame them for not having the conversation, but the remake has no such excuse.

4 hours ago, ping said:

How about this: If you recruit Johalvier, things stay as they are and Johan will refuse to join because he's a fucking idiot. However, if you recruit Johan first, Johalvier will still be willing to be talked into reason by Larcei/Creidne... but if you do so, Johan will explode ("What? With my own brother?! Duplicitous Larcei, how dare you play with my heart so? But I can see through your lies, witch! I must slay her, so that my brother may come to reason again!") and don the red garbs again.

Potentially abusable, because you can basically delay fighting Johan's squad by going that route, but it retains the joke while not tainting Johalvier's character.

That works too, yeah.

4 hours ago, ping said:

Apologies for not keeping up with the Ruben lore, but what exactly separates Syrene from the other representatives of the "warm, motherly pegasus knight" (gasp! Three archetypes!) type like Palla, Yuno, or Sigrun? My first guess would've been because Syrene is a bad unit, but so is Yuno, and making her a Wyvern Knight would actually make Syrene much better, so I'm at a bit of a loss.

1. Syrene's design is better. She has a cool headband and cool armor and a hardened expression without those annoying giant eyes every peggy sue gets.

2. She has a personality. Aside from being "warm and motherly" with Tana and Vanessa, she carries herself with the dignity and confidence of her station as one of Frelia's highest-ranking commanders, but she still has the occasional inner strife and can be a tad too reckless. She even shows a mild sassy streak in some of her supports.

3. Admittedly, she shares both these advantages with Tanith, but Tanith is, even more than Titania, that one PoR unit I just can't use because she breaks the game almost as hard as Seth does. Reinforce is so stupid.

...Also, checking her supports again made me realize they mention Hayden's wife in her support with Tana. Huh. I never knew that guy had a living wife. I might have to make a couple changes to dialogue in my current hack to reflect this...

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1 hour ago, BrightBow said:

Same if you make them fight Dannan here. Johalvier makes no mention of Lakche and lets his distaste for his dad's governing known, while Julian does... well, his thing.

It's like Kaga decided to balance the choice by making the obviously worse unit be the obviously better character.

...I mean, it's not a terrible concept. Kinda dig it.

1 hour ago, BrightBow said:

Probably not the best phrasing the translation could have picked.
I mean, you can just kill both.

Er... Oh, I got it! He was talking about Brian. He sent a letter eons ago requesting his help and Brian just wouldn't come. In truth, the letter was lost when the messenger went to take a dump on the river. The raging waters made away with his bag, and thus Brian only got the message much later, when his entire family had already been killed. Alas, what a tragedy, the life of Brian...

40 minutes ago, ping said:

I'm not sure if Kaga is specifically referring to Helmut Schmidt, to be honest. I was just joking with the name and portrait. Both the first name and last name are fairly common in Germany - for example, H.S.'s successor was yet another Helmut (Kohl), and Schmidt is literally the German "Smith". So while my first association with the name Schmidt is the Bundeskanzler, it's quite possible that Kaga just went down a list of German surnames. Far likelier than with "Himmler" and "Rommel", anyway.

Fun fact: The German wikipedia disambiguation page for "Helmut Schmidt" lists 19 people of that name, although some have double names and some aren't important enough to actually have a wikipedia page.

Yeah, that might be more likely.

40 minutes ago, ping said:

She got a haircut. Big difference! And she's more of a Farina (well, minus the greed) than a Fiora like Erin.

Look at that, Ruben. Two character archetypes for that class! Two!

God, I hate them. I fucking hate them. Syrene deserved to be a wyvern knight...

41 minutes ago, ping said:

I wrote that with the assumption that something is better than nothing, but you're probably right that the justification for Roger-Roger is actively harmful to... well, mostly to Johalvier. Johan is just a joke character to begin with, so if he had been a completely psychopatic joke character - whatever. Not like he's going to be an actual part of the story from here on out. But Johalvier is an actual character that gets dragged down by his reactin upon Johan being recruited.

Yeah, exactly. If they were going down this road, maybe they should've come up with a better reason for Johalvier to stick with his dad. Say... Rather than ravenously vying for the same girl that wants nothing to do with either, the brothers just despise each other on a general basis (which would be very easy to believe after reading the first three words out of Johan's mouth). Then when Johan joins the rebellion, Johalvier is disgusted that they'd take him in and decides to stick with Dannan and keep working against the child hunts from the inside. Or something like that. It's rather flimsy but it's not as idiotic as it is.

...It's worth noting that Johan and Johalvier have a convo with Larcei's substitute specifically in this chapter. They have to stand next to each other for 10 turns (inspiration for GBAFE's support system?). I only saw Johalvier's version, of course. You aren't missing much. He's basically just acting like a moron following her around, she tells him to fuck off and gains 2 strength from the whole experience. I guess only she gets it because it's supposed to kinda sorta not really compensate for her being the inferior sub?

1 minute ago, BrightBow said:

Only Reese could fight Jagdstaffel 11 and the Ringwraiths at the same time and survive.

He does have Ward, Derrick and Sylvis on his side. Sylvis could've beaten the entire nazi army by herself, I'm sure.

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1 hour ago, ping said:

TL;DR: I shouldn't play when I'm tired.

A lesson that's cost me a few ironman deaths to learn.

1 hour ago, ping said:

It's interesting that Johan seems to be considered a pretty bad character - if you compare him to Lex, he joins at a much higher base level, with appropriately increased stats (generally slightly lower than Lv.12 Lex except for +2 Str for Johan) and gen 2's Brave Axe is available more quickly than Lex's. Johan even has better growths than Lex across the board (except for Lck, oh no!). Not sure if this is just a general sign of power creep for Seliph's army, or if gen 2 is also less kind to axe users than gen 1 (most of the time) was.

I think it's just he doesn't get dibs on the awesome axe. It's basically the only thing that makes Lex any good.

1 hour ago, ping said:

...yeah, if we ignore Johalvier's "since my brother talked to Larcei first, I'll have to kill 'em both" in the alternate timeline (a rather large thing to ignore, granted), he seems like a decent enough guy. Funny how one brother is very much a joke character and the other one... isn't.

But I suppose that Johan being a joke explains why his face reminds me of Old Mystery!Biraku.

I feel like they just had to sort of force it for the sake of the Arran/Samson, because Johan's response to Johalvier's recruitment is totally inline with his characterization while the opposite is wildly out-of-character. I mean, Johalvier's recruitment barely spends a couple lines on the crush, while Johan might as well not have a character outside of it.

1 hour ago, ping said:

Very slick way to avoid having to program two different cutscenes based on which brother betrays.

1 hour ago, ping said:

Speaking of Helmut, there he is

No he's not, he's in Berwick Saga

I know who you reference here, Kaga just did it again in BWS. Musta really loved that guy. Or... maybe not, considering his minor boss naming schemes also include nazi higher-ups.

1 hour ago, ping said:

It seems that I missed some unique dialoge by not sending Seliph to collect this village, but...

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Old man: Ohhh! If it isn't Lord Seliph himself! We can't thank you enough for all your help! Here, allow me to give you my granddaughter's hand in marriage. We raised her as well as well can be, and she's the kindest, sweetest little thing! Oh, I remember that even as a kid she-
Young woman: Grandpa, knock it off! Ugh, this is so embarrassing! ...I'm sorry, Lord Seliph. I wouldn't wish seeing that sorry display upon anyone! But, er... if you do like me, milord...
Seliph: Er... Wait a moment... That isn't why I'm here...
Young woman: Ahahahaha! C'mon, Lord Seliph! It's just a joke! A j-o-k-e! Look, you've gone bright red! How adorable!
Seliph: Er...
Old man: I'm completely serious, though.
Seliph: Oh. Oh, dear...

...honestly, I'm not too sad that this isn't part of my personal canon Jugdral timeline.

Eh, as far as "haha please marry my young relative" jokes go, this one's okay. The old guy's retort is a nice punchline.

1 hour ago, ping said:

After getting the village, Fee catches up with the main army, if that's an appropriate description for five dudes:

: "Hey there! You're Lord Seliph, right?"

Oh look, there she is. Erin again.

1 hour ago, ping said:

To be honest, Seliph's messianic characterisation is pretty strong here.

You are starting to see why gen 2 is not as good as gen 1. More on that later.

1 hour ago, ping said:

: "Every last citizen of Isaach believes in and trusts Lord Seliph! We owe his family dearly for how his father, long ago, rescued and helped raise our Prince Shanan!"

[4500 gold -> Lana]

...actually, yeah, that would explain why Seliph seems so universally beloved in Isaach. My bad.

Though, yeah, you'd expect Shannan would go around telling people "hey, please don't hate on this kid, his dad was one of the good ones."

1 hour ago, ping said:

 

Honestly, the rationale behind those two being mutually exclusive isn't much better than the Arran/Samson situation in Akaneia...

I'd call it worse, honestly. The whole "rivalry of the towns" thing is kinda weird, but at least it doesn't affect the characters - they just never meet Marth and keep on living their own life (until Samson canonically gets recruited by Sheema). In this case, it harms the characters themselves - Johan has to be made into an irredeemable psychopath, and Johalvier has to act entirely out of character to expedite the thing.

1 hour ago, ping said:

: "By the look of it, Isaach hasn't had it quite as bad as most. Dannan's two sons, at least, refused to follow through on the child hunts."

You'd think they'd let Johan also chime in with the the "hey I'm actually an okay guy", but Kaga figured being a creep made him so much more relatable.

1 hour ago, ping said:

As previously, I'm again a bit disappointed that Shanan is already being shoved into the role of a minor character. It's not a surprise that his importance won't survive his recruitment, perma-death and all, but I feel that he should be presented with at least the same sense of importance as Seliph, especially since the game is starting in his country.

The curse of permadeath hit him and Oifey really hard.

1 hour ago, ping said:

By the way, I don't really care about any gen 2 pairing, so if anybody wants a ship to set sail, feel free to make a suggestion (or more). For this map, Lana and Ulster kept adjacent for a bit (but evidently not enough to invoke any feelings), following the logic that Ulster will have a lot of money thanks to his innate Paragon. But that's about it, as far as concious decisions go. Johalvier and Larcei just start with 200 love points, so that's why they're already exchanging looks.

Frankly, I'm the same way, so uh... Eh.

[Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread]

21 minutes ago, Armagon said:

Godzilla hits up Spain in this one so you're legally obligated to watch it.

Oh, huh, does he? Well, guess we'll see.