Radiant Dragon

Here's the post that Prims linked: Saying "I can buy Shin's version of events for now" doesn't mean I believe he's not scum. It just means that I suspected Mitsuki more at the time. From what I remember, I dropped the case when she continued her explanation because it made sense. In addition, I actually straight up say that I'm still suspicious of Shin in the last sentence of the post you quoted. I'd really appreciate not getting mislynched when confirmed scum is standing right there. Especially on the kind of logic that can be refuted in the very post it bases it case on.

"It would prove I didn't roleblock anyone". If I track you and see you stay at home while Shin burns, that would be conclusive evidence that you didn't roleblock anyone that night. If I Tracked you and Bluedoom was blocked, then that would have cleared you as not the Hooker. I was agreeing that your hypothetical scenario made sense, not that you had no night action because I don't know whether you do or don't.

What was terrible about FE7/8 warps? Range or availability? Although FE8's availability isn't that bad.

I guess that's true, although like I mentioned yesterday you could just idle instead and be 'cleared', which would be worth losing your doomed buddy over any day.

Except for the fact that we all agreed to for me to Track Dandra so we could clear each other. What would Tracking you prove? Now if I had claimed after the fact this argument might have made sense but that's not what happened. What does not lynching Shin yesterday have to do with this?

Has anyone ever done this, does it work? I remember hearing that the Black Knight you fight in the Tower is technically considered a different unit than the one that fights with you in Part 1.

I don't remember saying he does? I'm pretty sure at this point that the scum team is you+Shin, but I'm not 100% sure so I'd rather lynch Shin first. If I said different earlier it was probably because I was thinking that you'd be the scum team with the worst vote power ever. Then again, Shin's Hammerer ability seems to be so easy to work around (he just has to a vote down) it might as well not exist.

It's not like I was "Oh, SB's a Tracker, that's cool." - I was more like "SB, are you really a Tracker?". You claimed and cleared it up two minutes later so I didn't say anything. I didn't CC immediately because I was trying not to get shot at this point. It was just more of me trying to not get shot. By saying I wasn't worth protecting I was hoping scum would decide I wasn't worth shooting either. Believe me, I've already let Elie know what I think about the usefulness of my Motivate. Still, if it can help add some validity to my claim going into LYLO then at least it did something. I don't want to use the 'If I were Mafia' argument, but Tracker is a terrible scum!claim, since it's easy for Town to prove and impossible for scum to fake.

##Vote: Shin. Forgot to do this earlier.

Never mind, I didn't think to check the OP.

That sounded pretty rude, sorry. It's just kind of funny how two hiddens show up and then leave in the span of about 30 minutes without affecting the actual game at all.

...And not a single fuck was given this day. In all seriousness congrats BBM, but this doesn't really have anything to do with the rest of us.

I think this question was directed at me, actually. To answer the question, I just feel that it'd be weird for you to have a full hook in addition to your other abilities. Nothing real concrete. @Bluedoom: Why is it a bad move for me to bus my buddy at MLYO but make more sense for Prims to do the same? I appreciate the defense but I'm not following your logic here.

From what I understand, it wouldn't work on normal kills but it would have let Bluedoom prime two people. Not that it's relevant at this point though, since if we don't win tomorrow I'm pretty sure we lose. Do you think Prims is a Announcer/Conditional Insomniac/Full-time Hooker? Because he's already proven the first two and while I could see it being possible it would definitely be the weirdest role I have ever seen. No offense, but from my POV if anyone's a full-time Hooker it'd probably be you, Refa; I can only see Prims or SB being 1-shot Hookers.

You're right. I almost forgot we don't know whether the Hooker is one-shot or not. Ugh.

Then they can't stop me from proving my role tonight. Right now we've got 1 clear out of 6 players, tomorrow we'd have 1 clear out of 4 players regardless if it's me or Bluedoom. There's not much I can say to refute this unfortunately; since I can't quote my Role PM I have no proof. All I ask is you give me a chance tonight to prove my Motivate.

The problem with this logic is that if we're wrong we lose. Ignoring Shin, it'll be easier to find the last scum when it's 3-1 as opposed to 4-1. Plus, we'll have more information - two flips and me proving my Motivate. We have a higher chance of winning by lynching confirmed scum today and going into tomorrow with more information than we have today. The only reason I haven't voted for Shin yet is because I'm waiting for Bluedoom. Prims, assuming scum!Shin do you think my role makes sense as his buddy? Why would scum have a 1-shot scan/hammerer + Follow/Track/Motivate? From what I've seen scum typically don't have more than one info role and my Motivate would be useless even if we both lived to Night 3.

I asked if you were a Tracker because you claimed to have seen that Shin targeted you and that was the first role that made sense. Seeing as I had a 1-shot Follow and Town also had a full-Watcher, it didn't seem too suspicious to me that there might have been a full-Tracker as well, but if you turned out to be suspicious I could CC later if necessary. My actions early yesterday were based on self-preservation. I wanted to out the potential scum!Arsonist but I didn't want to die before using my Track. That's why I lied about not having another investigative ability. I only fessed up to having a Track once SB asked me directly what my role last night was when we started coordinating actions - I figured keeping up the charade at that point would only hurt the Town and my credibility. Which posts are you referring to with your last sentence here? I'm assuming you'll bring it up more when you have time, but still. I can prove my role tonight by targeting either SB or Prims (assuming Prims is not a 1-shot Announcer) so I don't see how I'm the best target for the lynch today over Shin? There's no reason why scum would block Bluedoom if Shin was Town, unless Bluedoom wasn't actually hooked. We have no idea whether or not Shin's buddy can hook more than once. Also, Night 3!Motivator makes zero sense as a scum role, and even less sense if we assume that Shin is the other scum. Although I guess it depends on what really happened to Bluedoom last night, but I'm leaning on a Shin lynch as a much safer choice here, especially considering it's MYLO.

It seems that either both Prims and Bluedoom were roleblocked, or one/both of them are lying about their role/actions. Blocking Bluedoom would basically confirm Shin as scum, while blocking Prims would only make sense if scum was trying to SB but he's still alive, so... Never mind apparently Prims lied about his role. Now I'm leaning towards a Prims/Shin scumteam but I don't see the point of scum!Announcer? It might not be his only role, though. Need Bluedoom to log on and tell us what happened to him. @SB: I didn't mention it in my last post because it's completely useless, but it's Motivator. Why Elie thought locking Motivator to a Night 3 ability was a good idea is beyond me.

I saw Dandra visit me last night, although he's no longer here to clear me unfortunately. What I don't understand is why scum went after him unless they're trying to hide their characters. I don't know of any reason why they would need to, but then again I don't know why we would need a Flavor Cop if flavor doesn't matter in the first place. Refa, are you the Announcer?

In chapter 14, at about the 40 minute mark he has Seth and Vanessa (both rescuing other units) occupying the same square. I've never seen or heard of this glitch before. How does it work?

Let's try this again. ##Vote: Rapier

##Unvote for now in case it saves me

Rapier, what is your real role? What does your ability do?

Also I would like to not get Day-vigged if at all possible, so please don't hammer Refa