Nightmare

You too? Hmrmhprhpmrhm. I'll find some place for you.

Nightmare brings up the article about actual nightmares on Wikipedia, and then the article on that terrible JRock band. After that it's just stuff about "nightmare metal" and Nightmare on Elm Street, some things about nightmares, and nightmare music (or something).

Soul's a mere child. He can be so forgetful at times. Please forgive him, I will include you in this list. EDIT: Esau is at High now.

That's the beauty of it. I reply to your comment about plagiarism with your trademark. But don't worry, imitation is a form of flattery, after all. Just read the guidelines on how to judge the characters members and pretend you're debating FE. Or something. I thought you would be more ready to debate this after all those things we said in the other topic (the one Soul made). If you don't debate this, then who will?!

I'm considering moving Fox, but I'm not sure about Death. (H) I hope you will debate this list to its fullest extent with me.

Dunno. No and no.

I'll add Mage Knight in Mid High; his efforts have contributed at least a bit, so he deserves that spot. But leopoldstotch's stunts, while entertaining, have probably little effect as far as forum-wise things go. I'll still add him, but somewhere in Middle. If you can prove me wrong, please do so.

God damn pansies. FINE, you're off.

Done and done. Also added Ike-Mike somewhere in Mid High.

I'll consider those, but if you can elaborate further on some, I'd appreciate it. I had not much knowledge on him; that's how a lot of people ended up in mid. How low do you want him to go? Hmm...to bottom, then? I can see why you say that, so I'll move him there. Well, he didn't really have any merit to his posts, so I'll move him to the bottom of bottom (for now). EDIT: Whoops, looks like he's already there. Mixing him with ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ (I think that's her right now), since she was usually known as Ilyana.

I'm unsure about doing that. Recently, most of his active time is spent trolling and while Der Kommissar did the same for a long while, he's not doing it any more and just sticking to normal posts, even when there are great opportunities for trolling. However, Fox also has some good contributions and whatnot, so I'll consider moving him higher. Any reasons for these? They make sense, but I just want to make sure. Oh crap, Ilyana as in FE3 Player? I thought this was that really old member. I'll change that, and require reasons for the others. Will do. We can discuss the individual placements after. EDIT: Added a new rule. Be sure to check it out.

Yeah, the individual placements, like I said in the first post, are not at all accurate. So bring them up and I'll change stuff. Not even the tier placements are perfectly accurate, so just rip this thing apart and do it violently. Bryan moved above those two.

Right, I forgot about Robert entirely. I'll add him to bottom, but maybe not bottom of bottom. Jarly and co. have done more damage than him, and to the entire community. Granted, if Robert was allowed to have those alts he would've wreaked havoc with them, but that's only a "what if" and not something that actually happened. For now, I'll put him above Jarly. Complaints?

Was it ever mentioned that only Ike and Greil can wield Ragnell? And the same for Black Knight and Alondite? I don't remember if it was, and if not, I guess it's just another game mechanic quirk.

I have Low Mid and Mid High tiers now. Moved Raven, Hatari and Gio into Low Mid. Any suggestions for Mid High? @Seph: Alright, I'll move you two together, whenever you're moved.

Crash is off.

I'll consider that. Also people, don't just waltz in here and say "X for Y tier" or something of the sort. Please give proper reasoning or your post will be ignored!

Removed RP. @Colonel M: How far down do you want Crash to go? Any reason for that? I'll move Interceptor above you.

@RP: Dream on.

Individual placements are not set in stone, so you can debate them around. Done Get out.

Denied. @Speedwagon: Hmm...despite that, he was a very good troll. Managed to even troll me. I'll think about it, though. Maybe he'll go to mid. Is that good enough?

Added rules. Forgot about them.

It's finally here! I rushed it terribly, so the placements are not 100% accurate. The individual placements are not at all accurate, since I just shoved everyone around, so you'll have to debate those a lot. Here we go: Vincent Tier: VincentASM Top Tier: Wist Hikarusa Nestling Meast King Tier: Ein Silver Rose High Tier: Red Fox of Fire Fireman Esau of Isaac SeverIan Bianchi ZXValaRevan Kiryn Narga_Rocks Musashi Dio Shuuda Rei of Nanto Balcerzak Emerald Der Kommissar Ninji Vykan dondon151 Mekkah Hero Le Communard Nightmare Mid High Tier: Tino Soluna Interceptor Colonel M Mage Knight 404 Ike-Mike Tangerine -Cynthia- Integrity Life Admiral bb_blader Fia Marthur Jyosua Harudoku Bizz Seph Bananas Enjolras Joey Dark Legend Vampire NoNameAtAll Mid Tier: Destiny Hero Death The End Citrus Man Adam/Metal Rabbit Core leopoldstotch711 General Spoon mousefire messy mike Spike Snike Xeld Piemanmj frat_tastic Pahn FE3 Player DeSu Fox NinjaMonkey Soul Amelia Karina Martel GrandJackal Low Mid Tier: Black Knight Furetchen Desdemona Cymbeline Kirsche Chalis Camtech TLS Matt O'Connell MaSu Fruitloop Multipuck NomadicTrooperGirl Kintenbo Pride Roxas Lux Aeterna Generic Officer DAGRON Bad Lobotomy Ether 6669 Hatari Gio Low Tier: Florina shadowofchaos Teh Great Auk Malfunctions Slayer Masamune_Wielder Blasied Rhaan Black Soldier Knight of Zero Kinata BK201 Light Brand Rhythm JB25 Oujay SasK Ar-Wing Pilot Etel Edna Thys SlaveBlade Kiba Reinfleche Kai-sama Richter Renard Phoenix I Like My Cake Iced Ayanami Skyman Derestun luigi bros Bryan RavingPanda CrazyGallian Hatchet Namie Amuro Bottom Tier: Smash_Fanatic Jarly Inui Lyle Dayek Doom Tremaine**** OliverxRenning master of aura Siegfried Glorie XxWolfxX Robert Luxord Tatsumaki Luminothe Below Luminothe Tier: AstraLunaSol Lower than...frog piss!! Tier: Speedwagon --------------- And there you have it! If the list is missing someone, blame Soul. Someone also needs to tell me my own position so this list can be more complete. I hope everyone will (seriously) debate this with me to the bitter end. How the placements on this list are judged: * Judge people by who they are, not by post count or anything superficial like that. * Post quality is a window into what kind of person a member is, so that is acceptable as a measure of judgement. Intentionally bad posts shouldn't count towards actually bad posts, and may even count towards good posts, depending on how they were used and their effects. * How much contribution a member makes to the community is also accounted for. Rules: * No debating yourself. * If you want someone's placement changed, please give us valid reasoning for your request. Otherwise the change will not take place. * If a person has requested to be removed, they cannot comment or argue/debate on the tier list any more. Maybe we'll come up with more later. For now, debate!

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I've been nocturnal for most of my life. I bet I would be 500m if I slept normally.