[Voting Gauntlet: Swimsuit Dispute!]

Dorothea supporter all the way!

[Who is the Best Fire Emblem Waifu?]

Cordelia and Jill best girls

[Minor Bosses you'd like to see]

1 minute ago, Jotari said:

Solution there, make him a red breath unit instead who summons the fire dragon!

 

Validar is more attractive. I'm not even joking, that's probably it.

I mean Validar still looks pretty fucking stupid, you gotta admit

[Minor Bosses you'd like to see]

27 minutes ago, SirErrant said:

Don't understand why he's not in the game yet. He's literally the only unit in FE6/7 that is immune to dying. That should make him top tier automatically, right?

Started playing FEH sometime last year and was genuinely puzzled why Kent and Sain weren't in the game already. Besides Cain and Abel, they're one of the most iconic cavalier duos, and since FE7 was the first western game, I thought they'd be relevant (and popular) enough to be in a gacha game. Guess not? On the bright side, Sain got a sizable amount of votes in CYL4, so hopes are high he'll get in soon.

Umm... The thing is, I was going to write an explanation as to why this was the case (Validar was main antagonist of Awakening besides Grima, one of the most relevant and newest games in the franchise). But I forgot that Jedah was SoV's main antagonist. Which is newer. And arguably just as relevant. I guess Validar's just more memorable and has more screen time?

honestly Berkut takes all of the spotlight though

True. Not that I have anything against Berkut taking spotlight tho 😛 Jedah's still better than Validar though. Not saying much yeah, but still

[Minor Bosses you'd like to see]

21 minutes ago, Othin said:

That's interesting, but given how nonsensical it would be for them to go off those results for current hero selections when they have so many more recent polls, I do not think it's relevant.

There's plenty to criticize about Nergal's methods, but I don't think flaws with a character are relevant either, they can't cancel out a character's importance to their fans. He's a memorable antagonist with a large amount of presence, and specifically, one from the first game to bring Fire Emblem outside of Japan. FE has plenty of cackling evil old men who use dark magic, but Nergal, with his 1,718 total CYL votes, is no Veld (129 votes) or Manfroy (341 votes), or even Jedah (706 votes) or Validar (1,238 votes).

That said, while I think FE7's role in the series is a good reason to add key characters from it, IS doesn't seem to agree, considering how we still haven't gotten characters like Kent or Sain or Athos. Or Marcus, for that matter, who isn't particularly popular but would have been a fine candidate for a common launch character.

I am honestly shocked Validar has more votes than Jedah.

Honestly, I feel like Kent, Sain, and Marcus (FE6 or FE7, either's good) should've been in the game at launch. I think the reason why we still don't have those mentioned characters is because we have other Cain and Abel duos and classic Jagens in the game, so including them at this point would probably be redundant.

[Minor Bosses you'd like to see]

17 minutes ago, Jotari said:

But we really need Nergal first. Now that Ashnard in it Nergal stands as one of the most inconspicuous absences.

 

By the by, another one I'd like is Grigas. As I kind of want ballistas to fill the niche of armoured bow users

Huh. And apparently trying to embed a link in text brings you to the main page now.

Yeah I'm honestly surprised we still don't have Nergal considering he's the first main villain for the western FE community. If anyone between the two of Nergal and Validar should get in first, it damn well should be Nergal.

[Minor Bosses you'd like to see]

1 minute ago, Othin said:

Interesting way of looking at it.

Looking at CYL3 (since CYL4 was after Kempf was added and less than six months before Mustafa was added), Mustafa was rank 364 with 437 votes while Kempf was rank 424 with 280 votes. Given that Awakening is a way more popular game than Thracia, Kempf's popularity within his game seems to have already been a lot more than Mustafa's.

The enemy-only characters with CYL3 vote counts between those two (who hadn't been added as of CYL3) are Nuibaba (385), Arion (381), Eremiya (366), Validar and Cervantes (both 360), Marla (348), Jedah (303), and Galle (301). While some of those are more major, the group does make for an interesting comparison, especially now that we've gotten Eremiya in the game as well. Speaking personally, Arion, Validar, and Jedah are all characters I hope will join eventually, and I can see appeal in Cervantes and Galle as well.

Arion and Jedah I'd be down for. Validar though, eww

[Minor Bosses you'd like to see]

The only minor boss I really want is Shiharim as a GHB for a banner that adds Jill, though considering he's not even an option on CYL, it's extremely unlikely.

Although I will say that I wouldn't be against Nuibaba if it meant Tatiana being added as well 😛

[Mark in the remake]

Just remove Mark. He's such a non entity in the story to begin with, to the point where you even have the option to play the game WITHOUT Mark

[New Heroes: Heroes, Light and Shadows]

I guess the next Archanea banner I would want would be Cecille, Ryan, Malice, and Dice, with Elrean as a GHB, that way we get both the remaining members of the 7th Platoon and some BSFE representation. Plus it would mean Dice would finally get some official art 😛

[New Event Calendar: July-August 2020]

2 hours ago, Etrurian emperor said:

I wounder if Lorenz won't be a better axe cavalry since house Gloucester has a legendary axe too.

Eh, sure, why not

 

6 hours ago, Liliesgrace said:

Just realized there’s kinda been a pattern with the dancing/performance banners. First one was Awakening/Fates, second was Fates/Tellius, and third was Tellius/Jugdral. If that pattern continues we’re looking at Jugdral/new game rep for this next one. 

Altea, Fodlan, Elibe, Valentina, and Magvel are the worlds without dancing banner representation so I wonder if one of them will be included or if the pattern will even hold? 

Valentia had dancing representation with Berkut and Rinea

[Fire Emblem Heroes General Discussion and Links]

14 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said:

Oh, I think an Embla Reinhardt is inevitable at this point. Maybe not right after this but soon enough. 

Oh you know they will totally do Embla Reinhardt at some point. It feels like an IS thing to do

[Fire Emblem Heroes General Discussion and Links]

Olwen looks pretty great

[Your favorite obscure FE character]

Patty from FE4. She is perfection in thief form. Praise her 😛

[New Event Calendar: July-August 2020]

I definitely agree that we desperately need more summonable axe cavaliers like Lex and Kieran. I also feel like Ferdinand should've been an axe cav instead of a lance cav (even if it meant him color sharing with Annette), cuz we all knew he wouldn't have the Spear of Assal anyway since Seteth would mostly likely have that

[Tellius Popularity Poll: Final Round (Final Week)]

Ike Gang

[What is your unpopular Fire Emblem opinion?]

5 minutes ago, Ottservia said:

You seem to misunderstand what I mean when I say that’s the point. There is no such thing as a bad idea in regards to story telling just simply bad execution. The reason the hyperbolic time chamber is dumb is because it doesn’t add anything nor does it make any sense. There’s no point being made with them other than the fact that they wanted child units again. 

 

Need I remind you that Xander was forced to accidentally kill his own younger sister and essentially commit suicide at the hands of his younger sibling thus dying a martyr. I don’t about you but I don’t think that’s the story’s way of saying he is correct on anything. He contradicts himself and so he dies and loses the ideological battle. That’s just how thematically relevant story telling works. Naruto didn’t lose to Sasuke in their first clash because he was weaker no he lost because he contradicted himself by forcing his will onto Sasuke without trying to understand him. 

I don’t see you presenting any better interpretation so I’ll hold by mine. Like how else would you explain his actions besides him being in denial? And don’t give me any of that “the writers just didn’t think of it” garbage that I so often hear.

I never said it was executed particularly well mind you but the fault is more on Garon than Xander. I completely agree that we should’ve been able to see glimpses of the real Garon to try and convince Xander and everyone else that he is indeed the real Garon. We should’ve had more of that. It would’ve done a lot more to help better sell the ideas already present in the narrative. Hell what would’ve made it better if Iago was a vallite and the one manipulating Garon on Anankos’s behalf. It would’ve made for a good twist honestly. 
 

however, as it stands I don’t think it’s as egregiously terrible as you seem to be making it out to be. The ideas are definitely there but the execution is definitely lacking. My point is that fixing Garon would take much less rewriting of fates’s narrative than it would to fix the agarthans in 3H

You know having Iago actually be a Vallite who's manipulating Garon on Ananko's behalf would actually somewhat salvage him. It would certainly explain why he also has an unexplained hate boner for Corrin as well, since he has the power to destroy Anankos. He'd still probably be a shitty villain mind you cuz Fates writing, but it would at least elevate him from the nothing character that he is in Fates proper.

I'm still not convinced that the Slitherers are worse than the Garon Squad though.

[What is your unpopular Fire Emblem opinion?]

15 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said:

Firstly I don't think something being the point is enough to make it good. With Garon it could have been the point to make him as boring as possible but that doesn't prevent it from being a mistake that made Fates less interesting then it could have been. The weird hyperbolic time chamber for the second gen being bizare could very well have been the point but its still terrible. Bad ideas can just be bad which means that implementing those ideas as intended would naturally lead to a bad result. 

I very much agree with this. Just because Garon being so cartoonishly evil possibly that he makes everyone look like an idiot being the point doesn't make it not bad. It's still fucking bad.

And also, stop fucking acting like themes are the only way to judge if a story is good or not. It's not.

[It's been 2 years since Warriors. Have you're opinions on the game changed since then?]

1 minute ago, Fabulously Olivier said:

Any excuse to not have Elise taking a roster slot would make me happy. Though I'd actually add Hinoka and Leo.

 

I think baseline, I'd have kept Corrin, Ryoma, Xander, Camilla, and Takumi, with the dlc pack being Azura, Hinoka, and Leo.

I'd keep Azura in the base roster cuz of how stupid it was for her to be the royal to get axed from the base game and not either Sakura or Elise, but other than that, yeah that seems like a fair lineup

[New Heroes: Heroes, Light and Shadows]

Eremiya's voiced by Lisa Ortiz? Now that's a name I haven't heard in a very long time

[What is your unpopular Fire Emblem opinion?]

3 minutes ago, Ottservia said:

I would disagree with this for multiple reasons. 
 

1. besides Garon we still have the royal siblings which act as pretty good antagonistic forces in their respective routes. Okay well the Nohr siblings are much better antagonists than the hoshidian ones anyway.

2. There’s nothing wrong with supposedly “good” characters siding with obviously evil characters. If you’re referring to Xander and the other Nohrian siblings here let me just correct you in saying that is the point. They are all fully aware that Garon is an evil piece of shit but they follow him anyway simply out of fear and obligation due to blood relation. It makes enough sense when you consider those factors. Frustrating as it may be it’s not inconsistent or poor writing. The whole point of CQ in general is get everyone to stop lying to themselves and accept and do something about Garon being an evil piece of shit which they do by the end of the story. CQ definitely has its problems(namely chapter 15) but the Nohrian siblings sticking to Garon like glue is not one of them.

Personally speaking(and I don’t speak for everyone on this) I would rather a a story try something with its villains and fail to execute on them than try nothing at all which is why I personally consider the agarthans worse in that regard but again that’s just me

You are never gonna convince me that there is a group of villains that is worse than the Garon squad, cuz Garon is one of the main reasons Fates has such an awful story, whereas Three Houses at least has Edelgard and Rhea to fall back on in spite of also having crappy villains like the Slitherers.

Also, having to rely on the royal siblings to make up for the garbage villains is a very flawed approach, and it's one that even Three Houses suffer from. It's used better in Three Houses than in Fates cuz I do find the conflict between the three houses more convincing than that of the feuding families, but it's still a very crappy way of handling villains.

[What is your unpopular Fire Emblem opinion?]

2 hours ago, Etrurian emperor said:

On their own the Slitherers are just as bad as team Garon. They are also characterized solely by being really evil, they are also incompetent and they are also really boring. But there's an important difference. 

Team Garon is the only antagonistic force Fates has and as such they drag the entire story down with them. But there is an alternative to the Slitherers in the form of Edelgard. Her having her own motives and ideals allows an actually interesting conflict to take place. And unlike Nohr the story never requires you to side with the Slitherers, it never has good people insisting the crazy mole people are actually noble and so no character is dragged down by association. The Slithers are terrible but they don't destroy the entire narrative like Garon does. 

THIS, EXACTLY THIS! Like, as terrible as the Slitherers are, Team Garon is just way worse considering they do way more damage to Fates' story than the Slitherers do to 3H's story

[Which route should I try next if I enjoyed Crimson Flower? (spoilers ahoy!)]

Anything but Silver Snow

But in all seriousness, it probably makes sense to do Azure Moon next, and then finish with Verdant Wind.

[It's been 2 years since Warriors. Have you're opinions on the game changed since then?]

3 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said:

That's true but you technically don't need all of them. Royals like Takumi, Xander and Camilla are very obvious additions that you can't ignore but the states of other royals is much more questionable. Hinoka is a pretty unimportant character in the grand scheme of things and you could argue that Lissa already has the cheery blonde lil sis role covered so Elice wasn't really required either. That's already two royals that could have easily been cut. 

 

Yeah honestly if you were to ask me how I would handle the Fates representation, it would be Corrin, Azura, Ryoma, Xander, Takumi, and Camilla. That's it, no one else.

[It's been 2 years since Warriors. Have you're opinions on the game changed since then?]

1 minute ago, RomanFlour said:

While people say that Fates has the majority of the representation, I'm pretty sure that's due to Fates having a lot of major characters to begin with - the vanilla representation is Corrin and all eight Royal Siblings. 

That's still a large majority of the representation though, cuz with the DLC, Fates has 12 fucking characters (13 if you include the non playable Iago)