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2 hours ago, Arcphoenix said:
I do agree and hope she would get her own moveset if she is implemented. Still, with Ganondorf’s existence- as a Captain Falcon semiclone- it’s still a possibility, thus my mentioning it.
Seraphim has about the same trajectory as thoron, elwind is equivalent to excalibur, and arcfire fire/ragnarok by the way. Nosferatu is also in SoV.
Ganondorf/Captain Falcon is probably the biggest oddity out of the smash clones since every other clone is either an expy (Pikachu/Pichu) or are similar enough in body size/proportion (Fox/Falco). Ganondorf is the way he is because I believe he was literally the last character added to Melee and Sakurai decided to add Ganondorf due to his popularity and Captain Falcon was just the closest in body build to him. I could be wrong but I don't think Celica's body build is similar to Robin's.
But yeah, I guess I could see how Celica's spells could emulate Robin's though I still think Celica should be more unique. Though I do remember Erica Lindbeck's tweet claiming she hasn't done any voicework (unless she is lying under contract) for Smash Ultimate so I believe Celica's chances are low regardless.
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2 hours ago, Arcphoenix said:
Well, the whole point of an Echo fighter is that they're similar but different - in the same way Marth and Lucina are or Pit and Dark Pit. Marth is precise and more powerful while Lucina is balanced yet weaker as a result. Dark Pit is slower and more powerful than Pit, and some of his attacks hit at different angles. Celica could freely use magic at the cost of damage percentage (reflective of Gaiden/Echoes) or have slower start up or weaker damage on attacks. Tomes, in terms of gameplay, are just cosmetic- apart from the bit where Robin tosses them after they run out.
The way I have always saw it was the reason Lucina is a Marth clone in smash is because part of her shtick in Awakening was that she was trying to (in her mind) impersonate Marth so they made her moveset exactly the same as Marth to translate that into Smash with slightly different properties in her attacks and while I have never played KI: Uprising I believe Dark Pit's backstory was that he was created from a evil mirror based on Pit's reflection right but otherwise he can use the same weapons Pit uses correct? Even Daisy makes since as Peach clone since almost every Mario spin-off has Daisy as Peach's counterpart who can presumedly do every Peach can do and Daisy was literally a Peach clone back in Super Mario Land.
With Celica however I feel people just come a quick conclusion of 'oh, she fights with a sword and magic like Robin so clearly she can be clone of them' and just leave it at. Yes, I could see Celica gimmick being using magic at the cost of damage to herself but at that point is Celica still an echo fighter of Robin. Is self-inflicting damage the same as weapon durability? I don't see how that means she should be using all of Robin's attack animations especially since she doesn't even canonically know spells like Thoron, Arcfire, Elwind
even though Marth/Roy/Ike are using counter. Plus I see her spell list being based around fire and light element spells like Ragnarok, Seraphim, and Aura instead of using spells from Awakening.Even their walking, running and jumping animations would presumedly have to be different because I see Robin as a slow, sturdy and more focused on using magic while Celica is more agile, frail and would be more balanced between swinging her sword and flashing out spells. Basically, if Sakurai wanted Celica in Smash I feel like he would spend the usual time and resources to give Celica her own unique moveset to represent Gaiden/Echoes and not give her the Fire Emblem Warriors treatment of being a clone two times in a row decided at the last minute. Lucina can get away with being a clone of Marth/Chrom/Eirika/whoever because IS will cram her into just about anything FE related but I believe Celica has plenty of unique things about her to be different than any other mage knight from FE. And wow I wrote more about this then I thought I was going to but hopefully it all made sense.
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I keep hearing people on sereneforest and other forums say this but do people actually think Celica could be an echo character for Robin? I mean yes, she fights with a sword and magic like Robin but her fighting style is still very different from the Robins since Celica is basically 'Marth with magic'. Especially since Robin's moveset in smash is suppose to represent weapon durability and Gaiden is the only game besides Fates to not have that mechanic so I feel Robin's moveset wouldn't fit her. Not only that but Celica doesn't even use tomes (besides in Heroes) nor is her sword known for using electricity. As much as I would love to see her playable in Smash I feel like they are going to pass on her and Celica will only show up as a regular trophy.
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If there is any echoes character I want to see in Smash Ultimate it would be Chrom if only to see the silly memes about him and Smash come full circle.
Also, I would see it as a chance for him to get back at the KI crew for mocking him in Palutena's Guidance. -
11 hours ago, Lau said:
I think the only options for FE in Smash Ultimate is either Echo characters, possibly Chrom as I don't think they've shown off Robin's FS yet, so we don't know if they've changed it, or new stages. Maybe Castle Krakenberg? Or a Mila shrine, idk? I haven't a clue for items, though I'd love Einherjars or Breidablik to summon characters to assist you.
I don't think Einherjars/Breidablik is happening since Lyn is still an Assist Trophy character but I would still like seeing other characters like Azura, Black Knight, and Tiki being summoned as Assist Trophies.
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I'll be maining Pokémon Trainer, Mario and Captain Falcon. Other characters I like playing as are Lucario, Mewtwo, Corrin, Young Link and Sonic. I'm also thinking of trying out Marth now and I'm interested in seeing if Zelda gets buffed in any way.
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Like Altrosa said above me I don't think we will see anything from Three Houses referenced in Smash outside of potential DLC. I believe most of the new FE content for Smash such as trophies/stages/songs/etc. will be pulled from Fates and Echoes/Shadow of Valentia.
Though if we do get DLC and a choice for a Three House character rep for Smash I would like it to be either Edelgard or Dimitri for an axe or lance moveset.
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Just watched the E3 trailer for smash and..wow, everyone is coming back huh. I'm most happy to see Pokémon Trainer come back since he was my favorite to use in Brawl and they remembered that Leaf exists as well! Also glad to Young Link as well since I'm not a fan of Toon Link and glad to see Marth is voiced in English by Yuri Lowenthal as well. Can't wait to see more of it.
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Argh, this must be the worst luck I have ever had on a banner before. Spent 400 of my FTP orbs trying to get Linde on the weapon refine banner and I end up getting pitybroken three times by Olwen, Ninian and Shiro. And of course they all have bad natures. The only good things that came from my pulls were three A!Tikis which will put her up to +8 merges once I get around to that. I also got a +Spd/-Def Tailtiu which I think is her best nature so now I want to +10 her next once Tiki is all lined out. I already got six Tailtius sitting in the barracks at the moment. I also got more Hinatas and Selenas when I was forced to pull red so at least I'm stocked up on fodder for now.
But still Linde continues to evade me it seems and I don't know if I want to spend anymore orbs especially since my barrack is full now trying to get her. I suppose I'll go back to Warriors if I want to see Linde.
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7 hours ago, Jotari said:
If that's the case then we probably won't see many new Fire Emblem characters at all.
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't get a fire emblem newcomer on the base roster unless they make cuts to the FE reps which I kind of don't see Sakurai and the rest of the devs doing. I could see a FE newcomer coming in as DLC though which will probably be FE16 Lord/Avatar or a popular character from one of the other FE games.
7 hours ago, Water Mage said:Late 2016? That means the possible new Pokemon rep might be like Greninja, which was picked before X and Y was released and because Sakurai thought he looked interesting. He guessed right as Greninja became insanely popular, even before it’s Smash Bros reveal. If Sakurai’s guessing powers work again, our new Pokemon rep might be Mimikyu, which would be a really cool addition.
Yeah, the new Pokémon rep will probably be someone from Gen 7 though I don't know who Sakurai would go for. I have been hearing people saying Decidueye, Lycanroc, Mimikyu or one of the Ultra Beasts but who knows.
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19 hours ago, Water Mage said:
Speaking of FE newcomers, I think we can sadly assume that Celica was deconfirmed thanks to this tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericalindbeck/status/1004108241977073665
There is always the possibility that they would only make Celica speak Japanese if she was playable in Smash just like Marth.But yeah, her chances does seem slim now and she is someone I would like to have as a FE newcomer for Smash.18 hours ago, Jotari said:Well that just means she's not in Smash, not Celica. I hope with the release of Shadows of Valentina Celica gets in in some form. As far as moveset potential goes, she's probably the most promising lord in the series. And she scored really high in the second Choose Your Legends poll.
I'm pretty sure the roster for Smash Switch was decided late 2016, which would be long before either CYL poll.
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Ouch, looks like Anna lost. Oh well, GG Team Alfonse it was definitely a close one. I guess I'll move over to Gunnthra's team now since I just pulled two copies of her from the Legendary banner.
@Johann I sent you a friend request. I'm leading with Camus for now but can change if needed.
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Awakening: Owain, Vaike, Sumia and Cynthia. Maybe Severa and Inigo as well although they will end up powercreeping their Fates selves.
Fates: Just need Silas from this game now since Kaze is in. I wouldn't mind Ophelia as well.
Echoes: Kliff, Tatiana, Valbar and Deen. Personally would like to see a new Tobin as an Archer or Bow Knight just to add him into the summoning pool. Maybe even an alt of Delthea as well wielding Ragnarok or Ladyblade since she was the only other character in Echoes that could use the spell plus I think she could be powerful with it in Echoes and all female sword users in Echoes were those in the Priestess class.
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Oh wow, did not expect Anna getting the win over Fjorm although I suppose that is multiplier shenanigans for you. That's fine with me though since that means I still get to support one of my favorite FE characters. I would just like to imagine it as Anna paying Fjorm off for the win. It would be funny if we ended up with an Anna vs Gunnthra final match though just for the irony.
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3 hours ago, Kaden said:
Huh, apparently Awakening Anna and Fates Anna share a birthday in June. June 10 for Awakening Anna and June 11 for Fates Anna. I was thinking about Anna getting an alt or her sisters, the other Annas, being introduced and sort of remembered that two Annas' birthdays were coming up soon. Welp, it turns out the Awakening Anna's is 2 days before the next new units banner that has a suspicious special map event going with it. Some people are figuring it might be the CYL2 banner, but wouldn't it be hilarious and crazy if it turned out to be an Anna banner? Maybe the appearance of it is explained as Heroes Anna's birthday and her sisters throwing a surprise party for her. Her sisters are different characters, so them being regular units would make sense. Maybe Apotheosis boss Anna should be a legendary hero, though. The only problem is that there's only two playable Annas from the main series and Warriors Anna they're all infantry units. The only other Annas shown fighting, but aren't playable are tutorial Anna from Tellius and already mentioned, Apotheosis boss Anna from Awakening.
Awakening Anna would be a dagger, sword, or possibly even a healer infantry since Tricksters in Awakening used swords and staves, but they might pull a Gaius on her and have her use a dagger. Moving on, Fates and Warriors Anna would be archers, Apotheosis boss Anna would be a lance infantry or possibly a lance armor with her backpack being an excuse for that, and tutorial Anna would be a pegasus knight which would be fine even though she'd be another lance-wielding one. I guess they could give her a sword if they wanted too or even an axe because why not. Or maybe a staff.
I just want an Anna bonanza. :p
I'm in favor of this though I always imagined Awakening Anna wielding Levin Sword since I think one of her official arts shows her wielding it. Since three characters on a banner seems to be the norm these days it could easily just be Anna from Awakening wielding swords, Fates Anna with blue bow colored Shining Bow, and then either Pegasus Knight Anna from Tellius or if they really want to maybe do something like Archanea Anna as a Ballistician to reference Jake and give her armor movement, and then finally have Apotheosis Anna as GHB or a Legendary Alt. Surely they had both Tellius and Archanea Annas on the CYL ballot for some reason right?
Though I honestly don't think the next banner will be all Annas since I have been hearing that the June 8th banner might be Archanea themed due to Marth getting an alt recently, refines for Archanea characters coming up soon, people thinking Kris might be added in soon since both genders of Kana and Morgan came this year. I definitely wouldn't mind an Archanea banner though.
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This is interesting. I always like reading and seeing the history and development of older games like Pokémon Red/Blue and Gold/Silver.
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Oh wow, so the rumored names for the games turned out to be true after all. Didn't really want to say much about it until Gamefreak came out and revealed it themselves but I'm sort of interested in maybe picking up one of these versions especially since Sun/Moon was a very dull experience for me. Though I still have several questions about it like is this really a sort of remake of Yellow, are we still doing the gym leader/pokemon league challenge or is this just Professor Oak sending us out to catch Pokémon and battling random trainers along the way, is Blue going to be our rival or are we having a rival at all, what is our method for grinding in this game if wild battles aren't a thing, and this last thought of mine is just a random idea but are they maybe thinking about adding the other regions and Pokémon through future updates or possibly DLC since I have been hearing only the original 151 mons are in the game.
I will just remain optimistly curious about the game for now since Gamefreak will most likely reveal more details at one of Nintendo Treehouse's segment at E3 in two weeks.
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I know it won't happen any time soon but now that refines for Aura/Excalibur exist I'm starting to wonder when/if refines for Dark Aura/Dark Excalibur will happen only to see small buffs for the Valentian Mages. Delthea is still pretty good with just regular Dark Aura but Sonya could use a boost to her tome.
Celica's Ragnarok could also use a boost since she's kind of outclassed by Winter Tharja, Mage Eirika and Forblaze Lilina at this point. IDK, maybe add Renewal 2/3 or Sol as Ragnarok's refine effect.
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I seemed to have missed all the exciting news last night with Legendary Ryoma, Tiki's new prf weapon, VG details, accessories, and most importantly Linde most likely coming back on a focus banner.
Anyways, Legendary Ryoma looks nice. I don't remember Kinshi Knights wielding swords but whatever. I would definitely like to pull for him and Y!Tiki on the legendary banner but since I swore never to pull on legendary banners again it's a pass for me which disappoints me since I have been looking for an excuse to pull red orbs for some time now.
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I don't really understand the theme of this VG other than Heroes OCs vs Legendary Heroes but I am going to side with best girl Anna and will most likely stay on the left bracket for this VG's duration since I have none of the Legendary Heroes besides Fjorm. Kind of glad it isn't a Bridal VG since I would of had to spend orbs to get a bride if Groom Marth was in it and lost.
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HP: L'Arachel (30)
Atk: Ninian (38)
Spd: Arden (11)
Def: Delthea (10) -Def nature
Res: Cherche (15) 4-star+10 -Res nature
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Pokémon: If Rayquaza isn't chosen as a boss again I could see another popular legendary like Lugia or Necrozma being used.
Xenoblade: Metal Face. All the other face units pale in popularity compared to him beside Egil/Yaldabaoth.
Sonic: I could see Death Egg Robot being a boss since it is fairly iconic nowadays and it would give us a chance to fight Eggman in smash. Although any machine Eggman fights in could be used too.
Metroid: Ridley and Kraid seems to be obvious choices for Metroid boss reps.
Mario: King Bob-omb
Fire Emblem: Probably a giant dragon like Grima or Duma would be used.
Zelda: Pig man Ganon with a trident like the classic games could make an interesting boss.
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Hoshido: Takumi- The only royal not to trust Corrin right off the bat plus he was an enjoyable antagonist in Conquest.
Nohr: Voted Leo but I also like Elise as well since they are both some of my favorite mages in the series.
Valla: Azura- Actually didn't like her at first but after playing the game and seeing some of her supports I warmed up to her. Plus I am a fan of her dark Nohrian costume.
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2 hours ago, Tenzen12 said:
BTW: What element is legendary hero supposed be this time?
I believe it is going to be a fire or water hero this time since we have two earth and wind heroes but only 1 fire and water. Personally I think it is going to be a red fire hero this time.
Edit: Crap, beated to the punchline.
General Warriors & FE Warriors Questions Thread
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Only swords, lances and axes can build up the Awakening gauge from weapon triangle advantage. The best way for tomes and bow users to build the awakening gauge is to have galeforce equipped in their skill slot. With Serenity Crest III and Galeforce I believe 1/6 of the awakening gauge gets filled with each captain defeated. There is also the quick wit skill and the awaken gift weapon attribute but they are not as effective as galeforce. Hopes this helps.