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Not gonna lie, I saw the premise and it screamed "cash cow for KH1". After seeing the gameplay... wtf? Maybe I'll try it sometime, but meh.

I'm nominating best/worst sales. O W8 LOLOLOL

Why did anyone get Coded? It looked awful to me.

Best: FE7 Worst: FE8

Too bad she's not killing anything that someone else couldn't kill just as easy, if not easier. I mean, at level 11, she's only doubling for 13-15 damage between the Iron Sword and Rapier respectively, not even factoring in enemy defense. We could give her the Steel Sword for more attack, but then she's losing AS and hit as well, making her even worse. By level 20, she's sitting at 11.6 Strength. That's 3-4 more MT in 9 levels (can't remember if SS rounds up). All the while, enemy defenses are increasing at a faster rate and it's becoming increasingly harder to field Eirika and keep her being a net positive. She's not doing anything well and she's being frail at the same time. She's not mediocre, that makes mediocre units like Dozla that are at least contributing something look worse than they are. She's just plain bad until promotion, and I'd argue that she's not terribly fantastic after either unless you spam her weapon.

Well the thing is that you literally can't get Kenneth if you're using Raven, Dorcas, and Bartre. It just won't be done unless you either arena grind Canas or screw over the three.

Illiteracy kills.

You didn't have to "Seth-skip" to deal with the laughable durability and poor offense that she has. Until she gets that one broken as fuck weapon, she's only being a ball and chain to the team.

Fuck it, I feel like being nice and giving you Priscilla. This only works if I'm allowed to go twice, though.

I'm not positive on ballista stats, but considering the fact that he has 20 Defense at base, I'm thinking that you forgot that the Full Guard negates the bow advantage.

I think I'mma try using Nephenee and Lethe over Marcia and Rolf next time I play the game. I'm burnt out on using them.

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I see Micaiah getting a lot of hate in here, but it's not necessarily her fault. I mean, yeah, she's a functionally retarded moron that is willing to compromise her principles and morals for some royal cock, but it's more a matter of the fact that she's presented as the antagonist to Ike, the character we've grown to love and root for. Because of the little emphasis on characterization the Dawn Brigade gets, it's almost wholly unfair to even try to compare the DB to the Greil Mercenaries. Micaiah's a shitty character but most of it is the fact that she's the victim of bad pacing and (to me) a bad plot. As for my vote, irrelevant and late as it may be, I'll go for: Best: Jill Reasoning: Jill is a very intriguing character from the minute she joins the GM. I laughed fuckin' hard at her recruitment dialogue, but all of it is taken seriously by the characters in-game. She genuinely shows pure hatred for the laguz and wants nothing more than to help cleanse the world of the filth. In her mind, she loses all alliances just by committing this act of charity, if you will. I think that this has to be one of the most fascinating ways to have an enemy unit be recruited, since 99% of the time the unit goes "WELL SHIT YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME LET ME JOIN", but in this case, she has no intention of joining the Crimea forces, just the desire to be renown for her determination and skill to pursue an enemy and to kill laguz. As time goes on, you slowly but surely get the opening into her mentality. When the GM get into Begnion, she opens up to Ike with the reality that she was just following a mantra taught to everyone in Daein. She truly believed that laguz were the filth of the world because of the fact that she was never given a chance not to. Her father even endorsed this idea, for fuck's sake. With this in mind, you'd expect someone who'd been taught to hate all laguz to only react to the conflicting feelings with anger and frustration. But, instead, Jill actually starts to consider the other side. She casts away her hatred that existed only in her home country to see the world right in front of her and make the judgement for herself. She opens her mind because she wants to know the truth, rather than just conveniently tagging onto her hatred. At her heart, Jill's not a hateful person, she's just a misled one. In her support with Mist, you can see how emotionally damaged she is from the inner conflict she's facing. She isolates herself out of nationalistic pride to not associate with the Crimean forces, but she still needs a friend. She initially rejects Mist, but by A support, she's initiating the conversations and confiding her deepest and darkest issue with her. By doing this, she makes a very stark contrast from the isolated and hate-filled person she originally was. With Lethe, Jill shows a humble side of herself. She's willing to swallow her pride and accept the retorts that Lethe throws at her just to get the deeper understanding. It's noticeably difficult at times for her, but she still follows through with it. For someone with as much pride as her to be able to disregard for something says miles about how much she cares about that something. This all culminates with the death of her father, as she has to deal with the reality of the fact that Talrega will forever brand her side as the treacherous bastards that caused death and poverty. None of them outright say it but in the info conversation that happens in the chapter after, the villagers essentially tell her that anyone who fought against Shiharam is to blame for their suffering. Jill has to juggle the fact that the villagers she grew up with will forever blame her for their misery and that she had to fight her home country and father (and likely witness his death if she was deployed). The game never outright says it, but Jill is tormented by the conflict between being a soldier and being a human, and it finally comes to a breaking point in this conversation. What I like about all this is that Jill is a character that not only exemplifies followthrough in characterization, but some of the most important aspects of her character are subtle and low-key. The game won't stop to tell you her story if you're not willing to read it, and when you do begin to ravel yourself into her story and life, it proves to be one of nationality vs. morality and where she stands in it. Jill holds a burden to be both a soldier and a human, but she also is symbolic of what happens when the two worlds collide. Jill exists as a character to show the world that these characters live in isn't black-white or us vs. them. She creates a perspective worth seeing on the Tellius world, and I think more than anything, she deserves the vote for that alone. Honorable mentions: Hector (for reasons already stated earlier in the thread), Priscilla (for being a criticism of romanticism (which is neither here nor there for the time being)), Eliwood (fuck your shit I love him), Soren (obv.), and Ike (obv.) Worst: Eirika Reasoning: Jesus Christ, what the hell? She's an awful combat unit, an awful character, and her path is shitty compared to Ephraim's. More importantly, I can't ever imagine her emoting anything beyond her vacant, blank expression that her sprite shows, whereas with other units, my imagination can go wild. She's just a blank piece of wood with a face on it. FFFFFFuck that. Honorable mentions: Roy (zzz he's incredibly boring and has nothing defining about him), Canas (but DAT MONOCLE), Naesala (why in fuck's name do they treat him selling Reyson like it's just some Dennis the Menace shit?) and Micaiah (obv. but I wouldn't call her the worst).

lol @ mine being the only Lyn vote In all honesty, Guy is the best sword unit in the game with only an arguable dispute between him and Raven. I chose Lyn purely out of favoritism and the fact that I don't recall ever having a Lyn that hasn't been able to contribute well in some way. By the by, I'm not sure if counting units that don't use swords primarily is necessarily fair. I mean, shit, the Paladins will have a fun time being in the axes and lances poles as well. And I don't think of sword unit when I see Hector and Heath. Just suggesting a better way to run this shin-dig would be to weed out some of the other options.

From what I vaguely recall about this, isn't it highly situational? It's not necessarily a "cure" iirc, just a way to start actually finding ways to cure it.

I hate it when people try to say that marriage is an exclusively religious idea when the fact that it provides governmental status advantages (such as tax benefits, or the ever classic "ability to rightfully sue someone on the basis of malpractice should your lover be killed as a result of it" as shown in Armijo v. Miles). No, you're wrong and you'll continue to be wrong if you think that homosexuals are trying to intrude upon religion with their sexuality. It's quite the opposite, except replace "sexuality" with "political and legal rights as citizens". If you completely ignore the moral issue that is obviously on a lower level here, there's no defeating a pragmatic argument that says all people should be recognized as equals in the face of a government if you want said government to function. Another thing I hate is when people are too fucking apathetic to care about this and act like it's just some big tiff about something small and insignificant and that homosexuals should just take their balls and play in someone else's jungle gym. Shit like this is majorly important if you don't want America to become a theocracy by definition or if you don't want the governmental rights of people to be waved on something that amounts to private preference. Not aimed at anyone specifically, but I'm juss sayin'.

I'll join, but I just have a few questions: - Will Lyn mode be counted? - What mode? - Is it intended to be ranked?

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Ike Boyd Oscar Rhys Soren Mia Mist Rolf Marcia Brom Kieran Jill Most of the time I don't play for efficiency, though.

Call it copping out if you want, I call it not starting a pissing contest amongst people like you. And try not to feel so targeted or defensive, I'm not blaming any of you. Calm your dick down, all you've done is be an aggressive douche to me.

Translation: You're an object to me and I'm going to compete over you. Your say has no importance to me because you're unimportant. Translation: This isn't about me loving you so much as it is me having something that Ephraim can't have. Translation: I want to own you so no one else can, not because I love you. The fact that Eirika fucking falls for this is proof enough of how shitty a character she is.

InnesxEirika is fucking creepy. What person walks up to someone they're in love with and and says "I'm going to have to beat your brother/sister because of how jealous I am that you give them a lot of your attention. Only then can I own you because I have fallen in love with you and he/she currently owns you.". Pants wetting shit amirite?

Christ that has to be the funniest thing in the series. "Maybe I should just tell Mist he's dead..."

It was on Fixed Growths.