Espinosa

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 10. vs. Dan's Aversa (Forseti) attacks Quint's Flavia (Yewfelle)! 33 dmg 75% hit 0% crit (63) Vengeance (78 48 54) Flavia receives 33 dmg! 80 -> 47 Flavia counterattacks! 17 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (4) Luna Aversa receives 37 dmg! 80 -> 43 Flavia attacks again! (71) Aversa receives 17 dmg! 43 -> 26 Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 26/80 Cordelia 0/80 Priam 0/80 Flavia 47/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 0/80 Aversa 61/80 Quint's turn. Will it be the last?

It most probably is, though I never got into FF5 as much as I theoretically should. The game has a class system, meaning I'd waste hundreds of hours of my life doing different playthroughs of it because of the sheer number of ways to play through the game.

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 9. vs. Quint's Gangrel (Brave Axe) attacks Dan's Cordelia (Ephraim's Lance+)! 26x2 dmg 80% hit 0% crit (62) Vengeance (43 25 52) Cordelia receives 26 dmg! 47 -> 21 (78) (52 42 74) Cordelia receives 26 dmg! 21 -> 0 Cordelia is KO'd! Gangrel activates Lifetaker! 80 -> 80 Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 80/80 Cordelia 0/80 Priam 0/80 Flavia 80/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 0/80 Aversa 61/80 Dan's turn.

Why are these two grouped together? I really can't detect a strong prog element in the album you mention though. Bands that play "Christian rock" always sound so simplistic. I guess if this genre ought to be defined by lyrical content, then Neal Morse would be its indisputed champion? Yeah, it does apply to virtually any band whose following has grown big enough to firmly believe the artist can do no wrong and where new music is automatically good because you've been waiting for it for too long. The core of BtBaM's sound is different on the new record with the extreme metal parts not playing the usual role, but it is a softening up of sorts, regardless. I guess since prog-metal is as relevant to prog as it is to metal, it's a little hard to complain about a band getting proggier, since that's in most cases the direction of change (can't think of very many cases of the opposite). Still, compare Opeth's Heritage with Still Life and you'll see that the amount of prog saturation doesn't correspond with better quality of the music. If you compare Deliverance with Ghost Reveries though, I'm not so sure anymore.

So, the new games that we can hold right now are: AB. zerosabers vs. AnonymousSpeed X. greenminid vs. Carmine Sword Y. Elieson vs. Espinosa We're now more than 2/3rds done with the tourney's games!

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 8. vs. Dan's Cordelia (Ephraim's Lance) attacks Quint's Aversa (Forseti)! 19 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (82) Vengeance Aversa receives 19 dmg! 80 -> 61 Aversa counterattacks! 24 dmg 91% hit 0% crit (33) Vengeance (83 11 41) Cordelia receives 33 dmg! 80 -> 47 Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 80/80 Cordelia 0/80 Priam 0/80 Flavia 80/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 47/80 Aversa 61/80 Quint's turn.

So does playing this with 0% growths (entailing that class growths are reduced to 0 as well) not also cause the enemy level-ups to be less potent?

Ah sorry, I misunderstood your train of thought then. Couldn't figure out why you'd risk attacking a 30 crit dude with Vantage/Vengeance otherwise, unless that was immediately necessary for longterm success.

k I'll cast Rally Speed so that this goes on swiftly without me.

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 7. vs. Quint's Flavia (Yewfelle) attacks Dan's Priam (Brave Sword)! 25 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (34) Luna Priam receives 41 dmg! 34 -> 0 Priam is KO'd! Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 80/80 Cordelia 0/80 Priam 0/80 Flavia 80/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 80/80 Aversa 80/80 Dan acts next.

[spoiler=see teams here] ANON'S TEAM DARRMAN'S TEAM Turn 8. vs. Sumia's Bond: Stahl 8 -> 18 Anon's Stahl (Brave Bow) attacks Darrman's Charismabot (Gae Bolg)! 9x2 dmg 85% hit 0% crit (60) (58 36 94) Charismabot receives 9 dmg! 80 -> 71 (60) (20 43 7) Charismabot receives 9 dmg! 71 -> 62 Stahl attacks again! (82) (15 47 20) Charismabot receives 9 dmg! 62 -> 53 (28) Luna (32 64 16) Charismabot receives 34 dmg! 53 -> 19 Name Class HP/HP ------------------------------------- Anonette Grandmaster 80/80 Stahl Assassin 18/80 Sumia Bride 80/80 Gregor Hero 80/80 Aversa Dark Knight 00/80 ------------------------------------- Charismabot Bride 19/80 Chrom Great Lord 00/80 Miriel Sage 00/80 Cordelia Bride 80/80 Gregor Berserker 00/80 Darrman's turn.

Brave Sword, Balmung - same result anyway with the Luna proc. Corrected. Fix what? She has her 100 hit.

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 6. vs. Aversa's Bond: Priam 24 -> 34 Dan's Priam (Brave Sword) attacks Quint's Cordelia (Seliph's Blade+)! 20x2 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (41) Luna Cordelia receives 40 dmg! 36 -> 0 Cordelia is KO'd! Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 80/80 Cordelia 0/80 Priam 34/80 Flavia 80/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 80/80 Aversa 80/80 Quint's turn.

Well, you did connect one of them.

[spoiler=see teams here] ANON'S TEAM DARRMAN'S TEAM Turn 7. vs. Darrman's Cordelia (Brave Bow) attacks Anon's stupid Stahl (Brave Sword)! 20x2 dmg 33% hit 0% crit (8) Vengeance (88 41 58) Cordelia misses! (67) Vengeance (9 23 36) Stahl receives 20 dmg! 28 -> 8 Name Class HP/HP ------------------------------------- Anonette Grandmaster 80/80 Stahl Assassin 08/80 Sumia Bride 80/80 Gregor Hero 80/80 Aversa Dark Knight 00/80 ------------------------------------- Charismabot Bride 80/80 Chrom Great Lord 00/80 Miriel Sage 00/80 Cordelia Bride 80/80 Gregor Berserker 00/80 Anon's turn.

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 5. vs. Quint's Flavia (Brave Bow) attacks Dan's Priam (Balmung)! 20x2 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (85) Priam receives 20 dmg! 80 -> 60 (35) Luna Priam receives 36 dmg! 60 -> 24 Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 80/80 Cordelia 36/80 Priam 24/80 Flavia 80/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 80/80 Aversa 80/80 Dandragon's turn.

I think at some point Refa wanted to lose as quickly as possible, though I can't quite pinpoint when.

[spoiler=see teams here] ANON'S TEAM DARRMAN'S TEAM Turn 6. vs. Sumia's Bond: Stahl 18 -> 28 Anon's Anonette (Brave Sword) attacks Darrman's Miriel (Celica's Gale)! 28x2 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (84) Miriel receives 28 dmg! 50 -> 22 (26) Ignis Miriel receives 48 dmg! 22 -> 0 Miriel is KO'd! Name Class HP/HP ------------------------------------- Anonette Grandmaster 80/80 Stahl Assassin 28/80 Sumia Bride 80/80 Gregor Hero 80/80 Aversa Dark Knight 00/80 ------------------------------------- Charismabot Bride 80/80 Chrom Great Lord 00/80 Miriel Sage 00/80 Cordelia Bride 80/80 Gregor Berserker 00/80 Darrman's turn.

[spoiler=see team(-s) here] Dan's team vs. Quint's team! Turn 4. vs. Dan's Priam (Balmung) attacks Quint's Cordelia (Seliph's Blade+)! 24 dmg 100% hit 0% crit (27) Luna Cordelia receives 44 dmg! 80 -> 36 Cordelia counterattacks! 30 dmg 68% hit 4% crit (60) Vengeance (85 69 65) Cordelia misses! Dandragon Quintessence Gangrel 0/80 RobinF 0/80 Aversa 80/80 Cordelia 36/80 Priam 80/80 Flavia 80/80 Hood 0/80 Gangrel 80/80 Cordelia 80/80 Aversa 80/80 Quint's turn.

I did 1 turn when you were gone, and another one (didn't notice you logged back on and, sadly, Darrman's edit). Would you like to take over after the next turn? lol edit: Oh you're online again, you can take it from the current turn!

[spoiler=see teams here] ANON'S TEAM DARRMAN'S TEAM Turn 5. vs. Darrman's Miriel (Celica's Gale) attacks Anon's Stahl (Brave Sword)! 31x2 dmg 93% hit 4% crit (90) (67 58 89) Stahl receives 31 dmg! 80 -> 49 (86) Vengeance (89 75 83) Stahl receives 31 dmg! 49 -> 18 Stahl counterattacks! 30x2 dmg 88% hit 0% crit (70) (98 96 41) Stahl misses! (93) (70 2 85) Miriel receives 30 dmg! 80 -> 50 Name Class HP/HP ------------------------------------- Anonette Grandmaster 80/80 Stahl Assassin 18/80 Sumia Bride 80/80 Gregor Hero 80/80 Aversa Dark Knight 00/80 ------------------------------------- Charismabot Bride 80/80 Chrom Great Lord 00/80 Miriel Sage 50/80 Cordelia Bride 80/80 Gregor Berserker 00/80

[spoiler=see teams here] ANON'S TEAM DARRMAN'S TEAM Turn 4. vs. Anon's Stahl (Brave Sword) attacks Darrman's Chrom (Noble Rapier+)! 20x2 dmg 79% hit 0% crit (63) (28 95 48) Chrom receives 20 dmg! 35 -> 15 (86) (84 19 35) Chrom receives 20 dmg! 15 -> 0 Chrom is KO'd! Name Class HP/HP ------------------------------------- Anonette Grandmaster 80/80 Stahl Assassin 80/80 Sumia Bride 80/80 Gregor Hero 80/80 Aversa Dark Knight 00/80 ------------------------------------- Charismabot Bride 80/80 Chrom Great Lord 00/80 Miriel Sage 80/80 Cordelia Bride 80/80 Gregor Berserker 00/80 Darrman's turn.

There's plenty of hax to go around even without crit forges/builds.

Posting to say my team against Elieson is complete.

Probably should've forged +25 hit, +9 crit/+3 mt instead of +3 mt, +15 crit. Or hit Sumia or something. idk it's easy to say these things when you're not the one playing.