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1 hour ago, Shadow Mir said:
If all those points are being spent on faculty training, you're not gaining professor level, and vice versa. Which begs the question, what would you prioritize?
Professor level is very easy to raise though? Most activities that raise Professor EXP substantial aren’t even affected by time management. For example, planting 5 star seeds is worth 2.5x the amount of Professor Exp that dining provides.
Likewise, Fistful of Fish, Books, and monthly questions all raise Professor Exp substantial without having to spend activity points.
To reference Mekkah’s Solo run again, he was at C+ Professor ranking by the end of Chapter 5 and got to A+ by Chapter 11. Raising Professor Ranking is a non issue, even in a solo run.
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1 hour ago, Shadow Mir said:
Even then, I think that what you're asking is way too much. Or do you seriously think that B Authority, A+ Swords and A+ Flying by chapter 13 is not unrealistic when only one of those can be trained by being an adjutant???
Maybe in a regular run it would be a ask, but this is a solo. 1-2 activity point per week is really all that the solo unit requires, leaving the rest of the activity points to do whatever with. So it's very viable for Byleth to hit those ranks.
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2 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:
How would you get the Aegis Shield on Maddening?
Using Byleth as an adjutant would be off the table unless you frequently conducted auxiliary battles, which give next to nothing exp wise.
I don't see getting an Evasion Ring at that point happening unless you can steal it from Dimitri or Claude.
With the Shoes of the Wind and the March Ring, a Wyvern could gambit two thieves from attacking Rodrigue to prevent him from dying on turn 1 and reach the boss by turn two.
Byleth doesn’t need any EXP to pull this off, only Skill Exp. A level 1 Byleth should be able to do this off of Enlightened One Bases.A unit needs 23/24 Speed to be able steal the Evasion Ring off of Claude and Dimitri. Thief provides a base of 13 Speed, so with 4 cooked Bullheads and Spd +2, any unit is only 4/5 Speed off. Lowering that by 1 from recruiting Ashe, it’s reasonable to get 3/4 Speed through levels. For reference, Byleth in Mekkah’s solo was level 21 by the time he did Grondor.
It’s not like Byleth needs the Evasion Ring to survive. They’re already getting 0% hit rates just from the other avoid boosters. It’s only really necessary if you can’t stand low % hit chance. The reason to get it is because solo's really benefit from dodgetank setups.
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A base Enlightened One Byleth could tank Chapter 13 enemies on AM at least.
Enlightened One has a class base of 14 Defense. With Duscar Heavy Soldiers, Aegis Shield, Def +2 from acting as a Adjutant, that’s 32 protection right there.
Add on another +2 from the thicket in the beginning, that’ll result in most enemies dealing less than 5 damage to them at pretty bad hit rates. So long as the Snipers can’t get near them, they’d be fine for the most part.On other routes this really wouldn’t work since you’d lack the Duscar battalion, but you could instead go for the more intensive route of dodgetanking.
Enlightened One has a class base of 15 Spd. With Gautier Knight, Sword Prowess 5, Evasion Ring, and Alert Stance +, that’d would result in 95 Avoid, or 125 Avoid with the Thicket. That’s enough avoid to have 0 hit rate on the Snipers, so gambits would have to be the only thing they’d need to worry about.
So while it may not seem like it, a base Byleth is capable of surviving HBD, though they’ll need a substantial amount of setup beforehand to do it.
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8 minutes ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:
Alois joins as a Warrior, with Fighter and Brigand unlocked. Ergo, no Brawler.
Hm, thought he would’ve certified Brawler by default. Oh well.
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Surprised you didn't make use of more units useable by making them master Brawler via Adjutant. Something like Alois would’ve been pretty useful I imagine, as he’d have 26 base Strength, 28 as a Warmaster.
I’m also surprised by the lack of Excalibur users. Without bows or Brave weapons arts, that’d be the go to option for killing Fliers, which are pretty problematic enemies. Annette in particular would’ve been good since she could provide utility through her rallies.
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Having another Sniper really helps for that map due to all the fliers for that map. Even a Base Sniper Cyril would be enough to one round some fliers with Death Blow and Hunter's Volley.
But what you really got to worry about is the boss. They're a monster that halves all damage on top of being able to spam a 8 range savage blow that deals 49 damage that's not affected by Defense at all, and they get to spam it every turn.
Best way to counter them is gambits and crits, which seems really counter intuitive intially since they have 50+ Charm and Luck.
Thing about Gambits is that you can get consistent Hit Rates on Gambits without the Charm as they are boosted by Hit Bonuses. So with Hit +20, an Accuracy Ring, A Rank Support Adjutant, and A Rank Meteor Link Attack from Dorothea, you can hit a 100% Hit Rate on any gambit regardless of Charm.
The best way to get through her Luck for consistent Crits is by utilizing Defiant Crit, the Wyvern Lord Class Mastery. It gives +50 Crit for being under 25% HP. Apply the Blessing gambit before they engage the boss and that can really pay off with brave weapons.
Make sure you also stack stats as well. The boss has 34 AS, so it may be intimidating to double with a Brave Axe at first. But add 4 Speed from Special Dance, 4 from cooking Bullheads, 4 from Rallies, and 6 from Darting Blow, 2 from Spd +2, and 2 from the Speed Ring, that's 46 Speed off of Wyvern Lord's Base Speed alone. And you're units are going to have better stats than that.
All in all, the map isn't too bad if you have good units for it. But it can be a nightmare if you're not properly prepared for it.
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Just fly up Byleth, Petra, and Seteth to where Caspar and Dorothea show up.
Most of the enemies barring the two thieves at the start are tied to two groups that move to attack your units when they're triggered even if they're not in range. They're dived by the North and South, and are triggered by either putting one of your units in the range of an enemy with battalion or if enemy from a different group moves into range of one of them.
So if you pick a fight with the Southren Group, you'll easily be overwhelmed since a Brawler will always step into range of the northern Sniper and cause the entire first half of the map to aggro. If you instead only pick a fight with the Northern group, you can largely ignore the Southren Group as they won't aggro since none of the northern group will wander into their range and instead focus on your units. -
2 hours ago, Shadow Mir said:
Aside from the fact that it only gives 5 hit, which isn't great considering the inaccuracy of her weapons, I would also say it means making some hard choices if you intend to have any Dark Fliers.
Considering Annette can reach 90+ Hit Rates on most Enemies in Hunting by Daybreak, I don't think accuracy is a particularly big concern.
Even if it was, Hit +20 or Uncanny Blow would be enough to solve any Hit issues.
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1 hour ago, Barren said:
Did they not consider the possibility that a player can be soft locked?
They did, but they just decided not to do anything about it.
To quote:
"Interviewer: The beginning of the story’s second part could vary pretty intensely difficulty-wise, depending on their playstyle and the route they chose.
Yokota: Right. There was some discussion about that, and we concluded that some people would probably get stuck on a certain part, but since it’s Maddening mode there’s not much we could do about it. That’s how we came to how the game is currently balanced."
Which, no matter how you slice it, is complete and utter BS. Especially considering how a small change like giving a Prep Screen for only Byleth and Dimtiri would fix a lot of those cases.
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Really, there's not much you can do. A lot of the strategies that make that map tolerable require preparations to be done in Chapter 12 and may even require entire of chapters of preparations before hand to work.
That being said, there are a couple things you should know. First thing to know is that the enemy AI in the starting area attacks in two groups, split between the north and south. Specifically, if any enemy with a battalion is in range, every single enemy in that group will come after you. Additionally, if a enemy steps into the range of another enemy in a different group, it will also cause everyone in that different group to come after you.
With that in mind, if you give Dimitri the +1 Movement Ring, he can reach the thicket next to southren Thief which will delay the northern group moving for a turn. That might ease the rate if the enemies you can take if you can defeat them fast enough.
If you have a flying Byleth with Reposition, you can actually use it to shove Dimitri through the northern wall in the starting area and fight the northern group. Nice thing about this is that it only aggro's the northern group, as none of them walk into southren groups.
As for actually surviving the waves of enemies, there's nothing that can be done except to pray that Dimtri dodges the hits coming his way. You can equip shields to try to lessen the damage that way, but that'll most likely backfire since it'll allow the Snipers to most likely double him.
Other than that, that's pretty much all the advice I can provide. Don't feel bad about being unprepared for this map, it's quite infamous for a reason. Even the Devs themselves admitted it was poorly designed.
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1 hour ago, SnowFire said:
This seems to have gotten a bit off-track, but I'll just say that Impregnable Wall is one of the absolute most game-breaking skills in 3H. So even if we accept that a flying dodgetank is "worse" than Wall for a moment-
I wouldn't consider Quick Riposte to really be in the discussion too much due to availability
Weight -3 is not entirely a meme for Ingrid.
Finally, I think people before were mentioning Ashe is stuck in Sniper or Dancer - I'll just add that he does make a good Wyvern Lord too. He makes an okay discount Claude flying bow skirmisher a la Cyril.
Whoa, back up there. I'm not claiming that dodgetanks are outclassed by Impregnable Wall, I'm just claiming that Impregnable Wall is a whole lot flexible and is worth bringing to every map.
I wouldn't normally consider Quick Riposte either as well, but a dodgetank can obtain a lot more class exp than most other units pretty easily. Like I once warped Felix into a thicket near Randolph in Chapter 14 with the Knowledge Gem and he was only 10 battles off from mastering War Master by the time I was done with the battle in 8 Turns.
I will admit that for the AS boost to the early and midgame from Weight -3 makes it worth picking up for Ingird, but equipping it for the avoid it provides lategame is totally a meme.
Thing is about Wyvern Ashe is that he still doesn't really have a niche. Anyone with a D in Bows could replicate alot of what he does with a bow while providing something else to the table. Even the other archer would be better, as a Wyvern Ignatz could provide Rallies on top of being extremely accurate with Axes, while someone like Cyril can use Point Blank Volley and Break Shot. Str -5 on a monster is also not that great considering you can just use the free Blessed Bow in Chapter 13 to simply break a barrier and avoid it's counter entirely.
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3 hours ago, ruruo said:
I don't see how any potential flying dodgetank need "massive amounts of investment".
And that's why we check what weapon an enemy is holding, if they have a breaker skill equipped or not, and carry multiple weapons. Can't speak for everyone, but in most cases we're not going to throw her (or any other dodgetank) into a room like that, but bait out groups.
I don't want to choose if I want my War Master to delete something or to bait something. For me it's just more convenient to have a character whose only role is to mainly to bait. Also if I remember right, the only grounded battalions that give great Avo bonuses don't give any crit.I was discussing Dodgetanks to Impregnable Wall in that comparison.The fact that any unit doesn't have to have Alert Stance or Brawl Avoid stacked with limited avoid boosters to be safety placed into multiple enemy ranges is a boon worth bringing to any map.
Do you really switch Ingird to using Swords over Lances as a Falcon Knight? She doesn't even gain any substantial Avoid from it until A+ Swords, never mind the drop in her already poor Strength.
You don't have to chose whether or not you want a Warmaster to bait or defeat an enemy. They can easily hit 100 Avoid just passively, which is more than enough for most enemies. Alertsance on Brawlers is only really ever necessary if you want to see a displayed 0 Hit on almost all enemies.
Equipping Gautier over something like Leicester and Gonreil is the difference of 15 Crit. While that is admittedly a good amount, Crits still aren't going to be consistent without either some form of Wrath, so I don't think of it as a huge loss.
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28 minutes ago, Dark Holy Elf said:
Ingrid could have Weight-3 or wield a lighter weapon if necessary. You could also primarily train swords if you really want to emphasie evade.
If you think those are better than +2 move and flight then we'll just have to agree to disagree, I think.
+3 Avoid is realistically not going to matter by that point and wouldn't be worth the Skill Slot.
Swords are terrible for Ingrid considering not only would she lack a faire skill and would contribute even more to her Strength Issues, she'd also lose 30 Avoid to Paladins and Falcon Knights thanks to Sword Breaker. Gaining +9 Avoid while losing as much -13 attack is simply not worth it.
Quick Riposte and Crit +20 by themselves wouldn't be enough to match 8 move and Flight, no. But when combined with the fact that Brawl Dodgetanks don't require a flying Battalion, are capable of dodging without waiting on Player Phase, aren't subject to weapon breakers, can use Guard Adjutants, and can have better avoid than flying units, that's enough to put them over flying dodgetanks yes.
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10 hours ago, Dark Holy Elf said:
Impregnable Wall requires (a) a unit to have that gambit, (b) them to use it on your tank every turn you want them to bait someone, (c) leaves your tank unable to deal more than 1 damage back (so you don't actually kill siege tome users, for starters, which is one of the main appeals of this build).
Hm, what am I missing for 97 Avoid? Regardless, it's is a bit shaky for a dodgetank, as average enemy hit is over 120 in every lategame map I checked. I do agree that brawling evade builds are legit enough, mind, but Ingrid will always have more avo than, say, Brawl Avo Felix, both because her speed will be higher, and because Alert Stance+ is 10 more evade than Brawl Avo. And of course, more mobility is always very nice.
The appeal of Impreganable Wall is that allows any unit to act like a dodgetank and bait enemies without massive amounts of investment.That alone makes worth bringing to every battle. Even if you discount that, being able to make any unit effectively immune to gambits and have enemies ignore them in favor of your dodgetanks provides a great amount of flexibility you otherwise wouldn't have.
Adjuatant provide +10 Avoid at A Rank Support. That's what you're overlooking.
Ingird will actually not have much more avoid than Felix with this setup. An Average level 40 FK Ingird will have 39 Speed, which would result in 120 Avoid when wielding Luin. An Average level 40 War Master Felix would have 34 Speed, giving him 114 Avoid without needing to even wait. Keep also in mind that with Sauna it's entirely possible to slap on regular Alert Stance on Felix and actually get more avoid on him than Ingrid. And that's not even the discussing the benefits of Crit +20 and Quick Riposte.
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43 minutes ago, ruruo said:
Gauntlet users don't have the mobility of a flier, and it also requires the DLC for Brawl Avoid +20.
They might not, but they have their advantages such as not being forced to wait on Player Phase to be useful on Enemy Phase, able to use Guard Adjutants without using up Blessing, and not having to lose 30 Avoid to Weapon Breaker enemies. It's trade off to be sure though.
TC has the DLC so I think it's fair to include it.
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39 minutes ago, Shanty Pete's 1st Mate said:
Which of the other Blue Lions have a boon in Flight? Among that group, Ingrid is the best dodgetank, because she has the easiest road to the Alert Stance skills. I wouldn't consider her ability to damage the foe as relevant to how she does, strictly as a "dodgetank".
As for tea parties, I would actually say they're an argument in favor of mid-Charm units, like Ingrid. Enemies with offensive gambits can get seriously high Charm late in Maddening. So while a mid-Charm unit will only take a few tea parties to keep up, a lower-Charm unit will require a lot more - thus demanding more activity points. On top of this, sometimes your students just turn down your invitation, so it's not exactly a reliable boosting method.
Alert Stance isn't the only way to Dodgetank. Brawl Avoid +20 with other Avoid Boosters is enough to get 80 Avoid before even considering AS. Plus if you really wanted, you could just slap on regular Alert Stance for 95 Avoid since B Flying is easily obtainable with Sauna. That's as much Avoid as Ingrid is going to have without a single Speed Proc.
Very few enemies have over 40 Charm. With 2 Tea Parties over the course of 10 Chapters, that's +20 Charm. Combine that with +7 from a B Rank Battalion and even a unit with mediocre Charm like Felix who only averages 18 Charm at level 40, that's -25 Hit on an enemy with 40 Charm.
Charm is just a non issue by the time it becomes important.
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Even if you wanted to ignore the substantial amount of difference in combat and the fact that could just a unit with Impregnable Wall could fulfill your needs of a dodgetank, it still does not make Ingrid a great dodgetank. High Speed isn't even necessary for some dodgetanks as you can easily get a Brawling unit to 95 avoid off of Grappler's Base Speed alone without even needing to wait on Player Phase.
And can I just say having high Charm isn't much of a boon? Any unit can get +2 Charm a month just through tea parties. Considering you can easily have 7 Activity points by Chapter 6, Charm isn't a particularly demanding stat to have. Resistance also doesn't matter that much since you should be looking to avoid hits, not take them. Even then, she's also still regularly 2-3 hit KO'd by mages, which around what most physical units when you account for Blessing.
Claiming that Ingird can be a decent dodgetank is acceptable, but claiming she is the best one in AM because of her Speed and supports? That's just overlooking how ineffective her combat is as well not considering how much better the other options are.
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4 hours ago, Dark Holy Elf said:
That Dedue is in Paladin and running around with "dies to everything" HP. It's not an awful build, but IMO he'd be better with wings or a Brawling Class.
Petra has advantages over Ingrid, for sure, my point was that it's not a one-way street.
Being on the ground is pretty advantageous for Dedue. Not only does it give him access to Guard Adjutants so he can get to 1 HP pretty easily, losing Avoid from battalions also means enemies are more consistent in hitting him. You'd be surprised about how shaky enemy hit rates are for even some one as slow as Dedue. Plus, it frees up a flying battalion for other units to use, which are pretty lacking in AM.
I also think you're downplaying just how much of an advantage B. Wrath really is. Like compare a Lategame Ingrid's Performance to a Wyvern with Battalion Wrath. It's difference between one rounding 1-2 enemies on Enemy Phase and wiping out entire sections of enemies.
Ingrid may have her slight advantages such as a lead in Flight Exp and Resistance, but that difference in combat cannot be understated.
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1 hour ago, Dark Holy Elf said:
Sacred Shield has the problem of being attached to a mediocre battalion. Having a unit who can play that same role without needing that support is certainly a nice perk.
Petra's excellent but I wouldn't say she fully outclasses Ingrid on Azure Moon. Ingrid gets a head start on Flying rank and supports AM-native characters (while having higher charm/res.
Some units wouldn't mind using a Battalion like that though.Take Dedue for Instance.
Petra's real claim over Ingird over is the fact the she gets Battalion Wrath. That small detail alone makes a huge difference in their late game performance that any advantage Ingird may have before then doesn't really measure up.
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Ingrid is typically the best choice in Blue Lions due to giving +3 Atk with both Felix and Sylvain during Link Attacks at A a Rank, has a 3 range spell with Thoron to be range for them, as well as having a Riding Boon for acquiring +1 Mov faster. She's also generally mediocre as a unit due to easily be outclassed by potential recruits, particularly Petra.
I'd also recommend not investing in a Dancer for combat. They can deal some damage with the proper setups, but they're going to struggle to one round tougher enemies comparative to most units when properly invested in.
And while people may say that Ingrid has a good niche as mage killer, any unit can have a good performance against mages in this route with Sacred Shield. That's a Gambit that makes three units immune to all ranged attacks for a turn, so when combined with Retribution they can easily be taken by most units with no issue.
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You could just break the Titanus shields from something like a curved shot from a Blessed Bow and just follow up with other attacks like Monster Piecer, Sublime Heaven, or just attack with the weapon they're weak to.
Even if they look threatening at a glance, breaking a monster's shield is never a big issue with how easy they are to trivialize.
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I don't see what this build is supposed to excel at. Units being able to double enemies isn't very noteworthy if they aren't capable of one rounding. Like just look at how an average Manuela preforms against the regular enemies in Endgame like in your example . She doesn't even one round the Fortress Knights with the Levin Sword, let alone any of the other enemies or the elites. She also lacks the Crit Rate or Avoid to make up for her lack of offensive prowess and can't do anything with Vantage consistently. Alertstance wouldn't even really do anything for her since enemies would opt to just ignore her due to Stealth.
And I would claim that this isn't a low investment build. Mastering two Intermediary classes is already quite the good amount of investment, but doing so when she only has 5 levels left until she hits level 20? That's going to require either grinding or for her to miss out on swordfaire for quite a while. A good example of a low investment unit would be something like this instead. They were severely under leveled, yet only needed 1 Intermediary Class Mastery to be capable of clearing out an entire section of a map by themselves.
Manuela is just a unit who suffers from low bases without any easy recourse for fixing her stats and has no offensive niche even after investing in her. Getting her to double enemies won't change that.
Powerful "Solo" character
in Fire Emblem: Three Houses
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That only means it’s easier to get Professor EXP on non Byleth solos.
But yeah, non Byleth solos will have no chance of happening in Chapter 1 and 2 simply because no unit is really strong enough to solo those chapters. Only way they could handle it is with the DLC stat boosters.
Chapter 9 isn’t that bad if you’re soloing with a unit who has battalion wrath since they can just double crit with the killer bow to defeat monsters though their barrier, but it is pretty painful without that. Grinding out Wrath could also be a viable alternative.
HBD is also a run killer if you don’t have a unit who isn’t deployed in that chapter. But you can make Byleth strong enough to solo that map without fighting in any other as a Adjutant if you consider that legit.