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  1. 4 hours ago, Zeo said:

    Really not a fan of the Hall of Forms selection. Groom Marth is meh, Bride Caeda is one of the most underwhelming mages in existence at this point. Draug is massively outdated without a prf and Merric is just meh. I like the theme they went for. It's just... this mode is a good chance for people to try out units they'd otherwise never try and well... everyone has tried these units or simply doesn't need to.

    I agree, I'm not a hugeeee fan of these units. I really like the Hall of Forma thing though, so it might still be fun, especially since we have to build them from absolute scratch, but I have limited care about these characters. I've tried 0 of these units and I have 0 desire too. Lol.

  2. For me it was Robin. I spent forever trying to +10 him, and did I ever get a Robin? No. He was stuck at +6-7 for ages. And then at +9 for a while. Now I get him with enough consistency to +10 a second one. Lol.

    On Green, I somehow can't seem to run across Ross again, and yet I have like 50 Camilla's and Barte's. And Shigure took a while to get to +10 because I kept getting Est and L'Archael instead. Seriously I had 20 L'archael's, 3 of which were 5*. -_-

  3. 1 hour ago, Flere210 said:

    Someone below a 5 won't be accepted in the Officer Academy whitout some bribery involved so i don't understand why many students are rated so low. To avert the four point scale we need a different scale where your average mook is way below a 1, because even the worst student is far better than a mook(2 and 3 are explicitly noted to not be better than an average soldier) simply because the OA training as to amount to something.

    That's not true at all. The Officer's Academy is through entrance exams (which we know nothing about-except that there's clearly some theoretical part) and a heavy fee that pretty much only nobles can pay.  

    But basic enemy soldiers could have also gone to an academy or even Garreg Mach. We don't know what other things there are throughout the nations. We also don't know the requirements to entrance, except it being incredibly expensive. Clearly nobles get (sorta) a free pass to go. And Annette is implied to get in because of killer scores and having been at the Mage's Academy, whereas Dorothea said she just enrolled and used her money.

    We don't know how many academies there are, or even where other enemy soldiers stand. And Garreg Mach also trains 'officers' and strategies or people that might not BE in the front lines, if battalions are anything to go off of.

    I'm doing most of my comparing to other students, but it's hard to believe Ignatz (a painter only sent to the officer's academy to become a knight because of family) is really that much better than a villager. It's clear Garreg Mach produces some GREAT warriors, but to suggest everyone who enters is inherently great is a reach. 

  4. Linhardt: 3/10

    He's never noted as a fighter. He hates the sight of blood, which means he literally can't be a good fighter if he's squirming every time he's casting harmful magic. I think his magic prowess is noted, but realistically his speciality is research and his laziness probably keeps him from actually developing his combat potential. I only rate him higher than Ignatz because I think he has slightly more natural talent.

    Annette: 4/10

    I love her, but all discussions of her made her seem good theoretically, but not on the actual field. She's shown to be hesitant and make mistakes with her company, specially in her supports with Caspar. And she's a klutz, so I find it hard to believe she'd be specifically good on the field of battle. She's smart, but never struck me as a fighter. But just on the idea that she can swing an axe at least make me thinks she's stronger than Linhardt.

    Lysithea: 7.5/10

    I think with the right defending company around her, Lysithea could be an absolute powerhouse. She doesn't need defenses if one spell can absolutely obliterate an opposing company. I mean just canonically, dual crests is shown to be incredible. And just because she's not a physical monster, I think her prodigal magical talents are enough to shoot her up. I think she'll always rely on others to make her truly great (the only reason I wouldn't put her at 8), but I think her actual magic capabilities might be that of 9.

    Cyril: 7/10

    I think pre-skip Cyril is probably a 5. But post-skip he's supposed to be shown as both skilled and on par with many of the other students. He was trained by Shamir, who doesn't really seem the type to train anyone she didn't consider worthy, so I'm gonna use that in my analysis of him. I also don't think he's prodigal by any means, but I think he just works INCREDIBLY hard, and I think hard work is what makes him skilled, but his lack of a crest is what probably keeps him from being a true powerhouse. 

  5. 22 hours ago, Silver-Haired Maiden said:

    Oh that's not impossible. It's not impossible until you put Rhea up there too and then you get super dogpiled! xD

    But yeah, all super good choices!

    Bahaha. So true. Well lucky(?) me, I hate Rhea (But only personally. I love her as a character BECAUSE she was able to make me hate her), so I'm safe. Haha. 

  6. Hmm. 

    Edelgard and Dimitri (yes, these two are literally my favorites even though it's apparently impossible to love both), followed by Dorothea, Sylvain and Bernadetta. Those are my top 5, in that order.

    Honorable mentions go to Hilda, Mercedes, Lysithea, and Petra.

    Though to be honest, I pretty much liked almost every character. I think almost everyone had something endearing and even characters I didn't particularly love (Lorenz/Ferdinand) ended up having some supports that endeared me to their characters at some point or another. 

  7. 36 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said:

    Those are two different people. I suppose its easy to mix them up since they both never appear and Caspar's brother is only very, very rarely mentioned. 

    Caspar's father probably remains a whole lot stronger than him. So far its the only opponent Caspar seems to fear. Edelgard notes Caspar is stronger than his older brother who she says is kinda worthless. 

    Ah yes, you are correct it's the father who's the noted powerhouse. Though rereading Edeldgard/Caspar's support, I took their conversation more to mean that his brother fights to hold onto his inheritance (as evidenced by Caspar, since the inheritance isn't certain), but that Edelgard still views him as greedy and worthless more in character than strength.

    So I guess I sorta assumed that meant Caspar's brother to be strong (but lacking in character) and Edelgard viewing Caspar as both stronger and better in character, and therefore should have the inheritance based on those factors, but you're right it's not stated really how strong his brother is.

  8. Caspar: 7.5/10 (with potential to be an 8 )

    Edelgard specifically notes that Caspar is stronger than his brother(father?), who is known to be a powerhouse, but is overlooked. I think he has both natural strength and the ability to get significantly stronger as evidenced by the hard work he puts in. Which is why I place him high canonically because he's supposed to be incredibly strong PLUS with good potential. Also Edelgard always seems impressed by his strength, which I think says a lot.

    Sylvain: 6.5/10

    As much as I love him, his battle strengths aren't very noted. It's shown he has a natural aptitude to Reason, and he's quicker/smarter than most people give him credit for due to his womanizer attitude. But in terms of sheer canon strength, all we know is that he has a crest, which at least puts him above average. I don't think someone's weapon really counts in terms of canon strength. He can wield the Lance, sure, but that doesn't necessarily make HIM strong.

    Ignatz: 2.5/10

    No note of battle talent. His entire arc is focused on wanting to be a painter, and I think a few supports focus on him being weak. I have a feeling he's the same strength as an enemy soldier if even that. 

    Rhea: 10/10

    I mean she's literally the child of a Goddess, so definitely 10/10. It took Edelgard and Byleth to bring her down, sooo she's strong. 

  9. if we're talking canon strong, I'd say:

    Edelgard: 8/10

    She's known to be exceptionally skilled and powerful, specifically by Ferdinand, but she's considered a viable threat by all others on the other routes. With her dual crests, she's downright legendary. However able to turn a battlefield SOLELY on her own? I think that keeps her from a 9 from me, because I think Byleth is canonically supposed to be that warrior. And without Byleth, I don't know if she singlehandedly is that strong.

    Dimitri: 9/10

    He breaks things by accident because he's so strong. I think he's by far the strongest canonically. Does he know how to USE his strength? Debatable. But I think he could take down a battefield alone if angry enough.

    Claude: 6.5/10

    He's definitely skilled, but I never got the impression he was necessarily strong. He was brains over brawn. I considered him the 'average' one of the lords in terms of actual strength. I think he could turn a battlefield from the sidelines, but on the actual field? Not so much.

    Seteth: 7.5/10

    I think he used to be a 9, but in terms of where he sits currently, I always got the impression he was older, and without his dragon form he was merely an experienced fighter, not necessarily a particularly STRONG one. 

  10. 4 hours ago, omegaxis1 said:

    Already mentioned how Edelgard got the throne. Solely because she had the backing of the slithers, led by Arundel. As Linhardt stated, it should not have been that easy to ascend to the throne. 

    Also, for Dimitri to talk to Edelgard to plot out, he had to be willing to approach her. Which he himself admitted that he won't do that, due to how they have both changed and are too different now. That's also if Dimitri is even willing to believe that Edelgard would believe him that her uncle is the one behind the Tragedy.

    There are two problems here. Both the bandit thing and the Tragedy of Duscur are things that were done in a strategic manner and through help from using other parties, where Edelgard used  petty bandits (whether it was to even kill Dimitri or Claude, or to actually just scare the teacher away, not sure), and the slithers use the corrupt nobles of Faerghus that disliked Lambert's "radical" policies. Dimitri is a one man revenge party that is straightforward to a fault. Which pretty much defeats any form of subtlety in regards to assassinations. 

    I mean, Dimitri literally snapped and tried to just straight up kill Edelgard in the most unsubtle way possible in Chapter 12. And this is despite how he heard how the one responsible for Duscur was Thales, having listened in on the Flame Emperor state that, but Dimitri still insists that it was Edelgard's fault.

    Dimitri really isn't someone that shows to be able to think in a roundabout way to avoid bloodshed. That is actually more Claude's shtick. 

    Yeah and knowing Edelgard and Hubert, I'm pretty sure she could have come up with other avenues, so that's really diminishing her character to suggest it was the only path for her.

    I agree, Dimitri ALONE wouldn't have had the foresight or knowledge to do this, but we're already talking in hypotheticals of what could happen, so it's not exactly unbelievable to think Dimitri would be willing to speak to her. He also admitted he should have talked to her long ago, and not waited for the war to gain so much traction and take so many lives before speaking to her. I'm pretty sure with Byleth helping him through, he could have approached Edelgard with his knowledge.

    And you say those are problems, but that's exactly my point? They were done in a highly strategic manner which Dimitri alone could not achieve. That's why I said this hypothetical hinges on Dimitri speaking to someone else about it, who could then plan it. I agree Dimitri turns into a one-man revenge party, and isn't quite subtle on his own. But it's shown Byleth specifically brings out his softer side and that he does truly care about avoiding bloodshed at the end of the day. Even post-timeskip, post crazy Dimitri makes it a point to avoid bloodshed because he IS so straightforward.

    To suggest he wouldn't chose the straightforward route of approaching Edelgard had he found out about Arundel first seems odd. If Edelgard spurned his advanced to talk to her/help then YES he would definitely start a war because he would just single-mindedly take down Arundel because that would be the next most straightforward path.

    But because Dimitri is so straightforward, I just think he's the least likely of the 3 to have started a full-scale war. I'm not saying the chance isn't there. And there are definitely many avenues which could have led to him being the one to start a war. But I also think knowing Dimitri there's a lot of avenues he would have realistically attempted to take first to avoid such a thing. 

  11. 24 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:

    Edelgard would have needed to be the Emperor to even try to let it slide, which would be the point that she would start the war either way. Had it happened before that, then Dimitri just murdered the regent, which absolutely would not be taken lightly. If you kill, or even attack, a major political figure, it's very much instigating a war. Even if Dimitri wanted to insist that it was only him, his nation would have gotten dragged into it. Being the crown prince bears a hefty burden as his actions very much reflects on the nation itself. 

    Or if Dimitri was able to realize that he cannot touch Arundel under normal circumstances, Dimitri may very well have started the war to exact revenge/justice, as he had done in Crimson Flower once he became King. 

    Arundel wouldn't even need to die. If Dimitri attacks him, it's a declaration of war for an attempted assassination. 

    Considering the ease of which she took the throne, I have 0 doubt she could have had that power as heir apparent. Yes, I agree, but my point is that Dimitri had found out Arundel was the culprit, he probably would have spoken to to Edelgard and the two of them would have hatched a plot to kill Arundel WITHOUT sparking war, and without it being a reflection on his nation. 

    I understand the political nuance, but at the same time, how hard would it be to hide a murder? Clearly they've done it many times before. I mean hell, Edelgard tried to make it look like bandits attacked them in the beginning. And clearly the tragedy of Duscur was completely shrouded in mystery. I'm positive they could have found a way to have Dimitri gain revenge without anyone knowing it WAS Dimitri.

    I agree if Dimitri just blindly attacked/and or people knew that it was Dimitri who did it, that a war would have been almost inevitable. I'm just saying based on his characterization and even with his dark side, I think he would have managed to find a solution that satiated his revenge without causing unnecessary bloodshed which he (generally) hates. 

  12. I agree with most of this. I'd argue that Dimitri would probably, realistically find a way to murder Arundel himself without causing a war. And knowing what we know about Arundel being head of the Slitherers, Edelgard would have completely let this slide. Also knowing what we know about Dimitri, he would have gone to Edelgard (since he clearly still had feelings for her) and talked to her.

    In most cases, I don't think Dimitri's end goal of figuring out the Tragedy of Duscur was going to lead to full scale war. But in my personal opinion that's what's both wrong with Dimitri and what makes him so compelling and amazing to me. He's such a noble, good spirit. Aside from his severe PTSD/depression/violent personality, which he does overcome, he's super idealistic and almost entirely naive by comparison of Edelgard and Claude. Even in the way he talks with Edelgard in their parlay, he chooses the 'noble' path, of keeping a broken system and trying to slowly change it over time, because he cares so much about everyone.

    It's honestly his biggest fault, and also something I entirely admire about his character because he's the typical FE lord in that sense. But I don't think Dimitri would have started a war inevitably. But I think that's actually sorta a bad thing, because it means the broken system would have stayed in place and nothing would have changed. It's why I find Edelgard/Claude's stories more compelling because they were going to actually change something.

     

    On the other hand, I completely agree that Claude would have definitely started the war. And you can say that Treehouse messed up the localization, but as an English player, I got 100% of the things you said from Claude just fine. I think it's less a localization issue and more a people don't get subtly or implication or truly follow his characterization throughout the supports. There is absolutely nothing to suggest he's 'just a jokester', as at almost every turn they're showing small, dark parts of his nature.

    Honestly I believe Claude would have easily killed Rhea and turned against the church himself. I honestly think Claude & Edelgard not joining forces was the silliest move they made, as their goals are so closely aligned in a lot of regards. But I think if you notice the power-hungry aspect of Claude, it caused him to want to fight versus give in. But I think for who he is, he should have joined with Edelgard, who would have totally supported his goal of no racism (I know it's deeper than this, but I'm just doing an overarching view), and just consented to not being top dog. Which he essentially does with Byleth, but I think that's the biggest miss of the games.

    Everyone talks about Edelgard and Dimitri not talking, but I don't think they would have ever seen eye-to-eye and I think that conflict was inevitable. However I think Claude and Edelgard could have been really good allies together in the end. Not necessarily friends, but allies. But I could also see them coming to understand each other. Claude for instance would have also totally lied to his comrades about the attack on Arionhood the same way Edelgard did because he also sees the bigger picture and past stupid societal things like, 'lying is bad'. Whereas Dimitri doesn't.

     

    But yes. Overall I agree. The war was inevitable. The system was broken and bound to break. It just took one person, truly hurt by the system and the secret war between Rhea/underground creeps, to rise up. I started on Dimitri's path, and I remember hearing all the supports and just thinking, "this world is so fucked, there's no way this is gonna last. Someone is gonna change this stuff up, because it needs to change".

  13. I personally got Death Blow for almost every physical character on my run through's. And any girl I could, I got Darting Blow. It definitely made the game easier, cause a lot of my damage was literally *just* enough to kill enemies on player phase.

    But I also planned it out from the beginning. If you're only on C5, you should have time, but Dimitri doesn't necessarily need it. His Str growths are already great, but in Maddening it might help. My Byleth needed it, and Ingrid definitely does for her poor damage output. 

     

  14. 50 minutes ago, SockPuppet said:

    I have a lot to look forward to; I hope I’m not tempted by the next new heroes banner cuz I really need to save up for Lucina’s rerun which takes place on the first week of December, I believe. After that, I must avoid too much temptation from the new Winter and NY banners—I plan on going for Winter Robin and NY Hrid (again lol) respectively.

    You are a man of great taste, because I need to save up for Lucina's rerun as well, cause she's sitting at +4. And I need merges for my NY!Hrid. 

    Also, I got Gerik as my 3rd free summon from the ticket. Unfortunately that means no Ross as I only pulled like 4 greens. Might use my last summon ticket for blue to see if I can get Ephraim/Lyon, but I don't really wanna waste orbs on trying to get them, as there are plenty of other weekly revivals that will murder my orb stash (which is just barely at 200). 

  15. Oh god I'm excited. Sacred Stones is still #3 on my top FE's, and Cormag was one of my favorites. He's a little bit more 'sketch' style than I would have liked, but nothing too out of place that I won't merge him up. Also those abs in his damaged art. Excuse my drool.

    Ross also looks adorable, and that STR stat, yes. I love that they went in lore with his crazy strong stats like in game. He was my favorite little Berserker that always hit. Haha.

    I was hoping Ewan's face would look better, but I hate the sorta lack of a pupil/bug eye look they gave him. Something about it is weird, so I'm gonna have to pass even though he was one of my favs. My colorful Shaman. Haha.

    Gerik looks amazing, so hi, hello. Welcome to my team. I hope I pull Ross while going for Gerik. I've always been lacking green users, but with H!L'Archael and now Ross and Gerik, I'm catching up. 

  16. Didn't bother me at all. In fact I really loved it because they suggested this ancient civilization became powerful and advanced enough to challenge "Gods" (aka: Sothis), so I think I would have been disappointed if it looked like this super primitive civilization that was hiding underground.

    If their technology had the power to ravage the world, forcing Sothis to sleep, then it makes sense for them to be crazy advanced, so I loved that they stuck with the lore and truly made it feel out of place, because it was supposed to be. 

  17. Just now, DefyingFates said:

    This is true, but at least Divine Pulse factored into the plot (and was properly explained), whereas Alm and Celica somehow had the power to rewind time yet never thought to discuss or exploit it.

    100% agree. I thought they integrated in Divine Pulse in a much more believable and succinct way. And they even used it outside the story when Jeralt's time had come, which I felt was a nice touch.

    I do wonder though what did get scrapped. I mean we know about Felix/Annette as enemies possibly being scrapped. With how poorly the Death Knight was handled overall, and now DLC, I'm assuming that was definitely scrapped (but I'm super curious how they're gonna bring him back).

  18. Honestly on the other hand, I always felt those things were added to make the Divine Pulse seem more normal. The "flow of time" that Rhea says and Sothis says just seem to suggest Sothis has always been a "time" God in a sense, so I always felt it was an allusion to the fact that Rhea actually knew the true power of Sothis (which it turned out she did for many reasons).

    The Divine Pulse was simply there because of Milla's Turntable it felt like, and so it didn't necessarily feel like they were trying to make it mean anything more than it was—a mechanic. Because there's no other mentions of it and it was a HUGE storytelling adventure, it always felt like throwaway lines to justify the mechanic returning in a different form.

  19. Wow, this is a lot. I LOVE Ewan, but his art is so blah, so I think I'll pass. I just hate the eyes, and he seems lackluster anyways. 

    But GERIK. Wow. Okay. I clearly have a thing for hot axe men. Not a huge fan of Firesweep weapons, so that will probably have to go.

    And yay! Ross! Love him. And if I'm going for Gerik there's a chance I'll get a Ross too!! =D He's so cute too!! Love his art.

    And oh...my...god. Cormag! Finally. Finally!

    And last but not least Ephraim and Lyon? One, their art is adorable, and two, I don't NEED them at all, but I reallllly want them because I love both those characters so much and it makes me so happy to see a happy Lyon. 

    But I also need to save for FarFetched (Nils-barring they give him those stupid big bug eyes they gave Ewan), so I guess I'll focus on Gerik first, and then depending on my orb count, see if I should dive back in for Ephraim. 

  20. 40 minutes ago, MrPerson0 said:

    Because Edelgard is a pivotal point of this game no matter what?

    Because she was pretty emotional, seeing her reborn mother siding with the villain who was (in their view) behind a good amount of the attacks in Garreg Mach, especially the death of your own father? The fact that Edelgard being the Flame Emperor is never brought up again shows how silly this decision was.

     

    You seem to be great at not actually addressing the issue. Edelgard is a pivotal point, but she's not relevant to this discussion about Rhea? 

    Okay, but the fact of the matter is, when we're emotional we tend to speak about how we truly feel. So her calling Byleth a failed experiment is indicative of her actual true emotions, rather than the false, peaceful one she usually puts on. The Flame Emperor/Edelgard wasn't behind the death of Byleth's father. That was TWISTD. She certainly played a hand, but if you want to go down that route so did Rhea for knowing about TWISTD the entire time and not ONCE explaining who they were. So focused on her own goals she let them grow to the magnitude they did. The whole thing is a bit silly. And once again, you're bringing up Edelgard instead of focusing on Rhea.

    The point of the discussion is that Rhea has violently suppressed at some point in the past as evidenced by both Catherine and Shamir. We do not know the natures of said events, but we do know they happened.

  21. 1 hour ago, MrPerson0 said:

    Which is a pretty big problem with their mentality. Case in point is Edelgard, choosing to go to war to take over the continent instead of trying to work with other leaders.

    The actual quote is "It was supposed to be but a step away...What could I be missing?" not, "What went wrong". You are trying to argue that it's headcanon to think she would stop there, even though she willingly handed the church over to Byleth during the war. It's not farfetched to think that Rhea would have done the same instead of trying another experiment, because, once again, this was the farthest she has gotten.

    I'm not arguing it's a wrong mentality. You seem to want to keep bringing up Edelgard instead of focusing on Rhea, who is the topic of this conversation. But just as Edelgard had the wrong mentality, so did Rhea. So what's your point?

    Exactly. "What could I be missing?" suggests she entirely intends to keep searching for that final missing piece. She even calls Byleth a failed experiment should you choose to not side with her, only further highlighting her TRUE thoughts about them. It's only by fighting by her side that she comes to think of you not as a failed experiment and as a person on your own right. So yes, that is a headcannon. Because we clearly see Rhea's views/thoughts/choices are entirely influenced by your choice. But at the moment of the throne, she is still scheming and still views you as a failed experiment. When has Rhea settled for anything under perfection? You're just reaching at this point.

  22. On 10/29/2019 at 5:49 AM, MrPerson0 said:

    Unless you have any actual cases of this happening, no, they are not the same.

    It makes sense because they were willing to kill Rhea and the students. At this point, they were no different from the bandits that we normally kill in the FE games.

    But you haven't pointed out what this exactly was. Catherine saying "she'll kill for Rhea" could easily mean defending her whenever she is in trouble.

    The reason I brought up Edelgard's words were because you were trying to make it seem "a simple dispute" = death (more or less), which were

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    the exact words that Edelgard used to describe the fight between Seiros and Nemesis.

     

    I'm suggesting that in the way we see the game, nobody simply talks. They all go straight to fighting. So yes, in the context of the game, 'speaking out' is the same as drawing swords in it that we see that everybody starts with action and not talking. 

    You act as if bandits don't deserve to be listened to either? So no. We all understand they were trying to kill Rhea/students, but that doesn't mean they deserve to be immediately executed. I'm not arguing they deserved to be executed, I'm just saying it was suppression because they clearly had knowledge she didn't want getting out. So it expedited a process that shouldn't have happened.

    Someone saying they'll kill for someone does in no way mean defending her when she's in trouble. Also when you ask Shamir if she's killed on orders before she says she has and that killing criminals is what she does. She doesn't question, she just does. It brings up an entire gray area because we don't know if they truly were criminals, but that Rhea deemed them so and if Rhea says it, people follow. And for Catherine, saying "she'll kill for Rhea" 100%  means she will kill upon Rhea's orders,

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    which she does when she sets the town on fire. So we all know what Catherine meant by her physical actions in the game. You can't suddenly twist her words after you yourself brought up what she did.

    5 hours ago, MrPerson0 said:

    Don't forget that Byleth was practically the farthest she has gotten, with them being able to unlock the full power of the SotC and whatnot. Pretty sure that once she saw that Byleth sitting on the chair didn't do anything, she would likely gave up any hope of bringing her back (in full) at that point. Just having Byleth at her side was likely enough.

    Unless you have any actual evidence that she actually gave up hope and would never experiment again, you can't say that. That is purely a headcanon that having Byleth at her side was enough upon seeing Byleth on that throne. She says that eventually having Byleth at her side was enough, but that's only if you S support her and go through the Church route meaning it's only after the 5 years that she see's Byleth for who they are. She even says something to the effect of "What went wrong, what am I missing" to suggest she's nowhere near done with the experimentation. 

  23. 5 hours ago, MrPerson0 said:

    "Turning their swords against the church" = attacking them. Not speaking out against them.

    Sure, they say that, but they quickly go back to saying Rhea is evil and that she should be killed, which is likely what they wanted to do anyway. They were really no different from killing bandits who are willing to hurt civilians/the main characters.

    And this only happens if someone tries to kill Rhea first. Once again, no evidence points to a simple dispute/disagreement = death in this game. It's pretty obvious to the point that

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    Catherine would struggle with being told to set a city full of innocents on fire since Rhea has clearly gone insane at that point.

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    even Edelgard's view of the confrontation between Nemesis and Seiros being "a simple dispute" was obviously wrong.

     

     In this world, Im pretty sure that speaking out against the church js the same as turning their swords against it. Talking doesn't seem to be anyone’s strong suit. Haha.

    I‘m not saying killing them was wrong. Im saying she also did it to suppress any truth they might have had. It makes no logical sense to execute that blindly. 

    And nobody said a simple dispute. You just said there was no evidence of violent suppression in the past and I'm pointing out there WAS. There’s no evidence of WHAT the suppression was about or what caused it. So you can't say it “only happens if someone tries to kill Rhea first” because there’s no evidence either way. Just that there's been violence in the past.

    Furthermore, Catherine still does it, so that would also suggest she‘s done things in the past as well.

    Also, what does Edelgard’s wrong view have to do with anything??

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