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Well CR and Baldrick's claimed actions support each other for N1 and N3 and this explains Helios' scan too. Baldrick could you elaborate on your action N2? I get N3 since you were all over Mancer yesterday and N1 wasn't you playing, but any reason why you chose Obviam and Prims? Also did you doubt CR's claim since she even said out loud that she would target Helios?

I'm one of the people who've been finding SB scummy from the start, though Prims never had much against a SB lynch either and I was beginning to think he might be too easy of a suspect. Thought I'd track him to see if I could get some clarification. It's a bit weird though, in a game with 10 town 5 anti-town, where we went from potential mylo to potentil lylo after lynching scum, I'm not seeing how town most of town shouldn't have active roles unless it's self-protective abilities like bulletproof.

Though I have results that both JB and SB have nights where they did nothing I still want them to post actual content

CR what happened with martyr targeting Helios anyway tracked SB who visited no one

Everyone agreed to vote Prims but to hold off to keep discussion going Look at their reasons before you call them scum, my post after you was to bring up Prim's earlier reads and start a discussion on how legit they were. Does simply not wanting to vote Prims yet make me scummy? Helios said he targeted Obviam but got Prims. You think two scum got redirected? It could happen and a not!scum redirector got lucky, but a scum redirector had no reason to do that. You were the one who needed more convincing since you asked Helios about his role, actually.

At the time it was four votes and we needed one more and then Prims could easily selfhammer and look it happened without anyone getting rushed

And why do you insist people who claim like me and Helios to be scummy Like the first thing you asked Helios was if he was scum!cop of course he is that's why he claimed and Prims confessed

Dude Prims self-hammered already how do you put so many self-contradictions in three lines

No I still take credit for getting Helios over to me

I lost because I also was shit though, I can admit that. I gave you far too much passes when it should have been obvious and my use of actions were completely idiotic.

I was also unhappy with Helios' attitude which I never stopped mentioning D4 But he played shitty and has apologized and didn't want to hurt anyone etc etc it's no big deal

Epitome of manipulation is me

Helios went for me because I didn't stop bugging him I take credit for that

Helios and Boron were both playing off emotion, but Helios was genuinely not trying to play seriously, proven by the fact he was town who went lololol at us. He also said he didn't want to argue seriously because he was afraid of upsetting Boron which I frankly think is a stupid reason because if Helios can argue seriously and reasonable it'd be Boron's problem if she got upset. Sure, he shouldn't have gone lololol at us instead, it certainly affected my play too because it made me sure he was scum, but Boron's earlier ragequit post was terrible and intended or not, she ended up emotionally manipulating us anyway.

Wait CR why didn't you mention that you idled N2 earlier like when you said what your N1 action was Also if what you claim is true you got redirected from me too Elie N1 and scorri said something about redirect that night too. Not sure what the purpose behind redirecting from Obviam to Prims is, he could be a nexus but it sounds like a real mess in addition to redirector/bus driver and CR's martyr.

There's no rush at all, but it's true discussion has stagnated. What do people think about the reads Prims had before he was revealed as scum? Pretty much everyone has found SB, Baldrick and CR scummy at one point, and I don't think any of them would be very hard lynches to push, Went through his ISO and the people he's mentioned only briefly or not at all are Elieson, JB and scorri. I don't think he even mentions Elieson who hasn't been around much, though he called out both scorri and Iris on inactivity. scorri is dead and JB's done little but I have a tracker report on him saying he did nothing N1. Iris/Strawman/Lucina need to say something more, could Lucina voice her opinions on players? Elieson also voted BBM and SB, and mentioned this post that he found Helios and Marth scummy by the argument they had, which I disagree on. He later changed his mind on Marth here saying the Marth wagon was bad. I find his later posts to be quite good, and I don't have any problems with him this phase. He's been pretty much ignored by everyone (except Obviam I think) the whole game, but he's hasn't drawn attention to himself. TL;DR Elieson's playing pretty protown though his reads are nothing original or say much new. Leaning town to me. I'm most iffy about Baldrick, Mancer and SB at the moment, but they do have a lot of people finding them suspicious. SB, the about you is that almost all your posts have been really short in this game. Can't you give any reads? Mancer, one more vote and Prims can easily hammer himself. Why are you rushing so much for a lynch? Why were you dead set on Marth being scum? Red font to underline your votes? Really? If we're talking Pokemon mafia you behaved the excact way regarding JB's lynch and you were scum. Even disregarding meta pushing a lynch this hard is horrible and does make you look scummy.

Read the rules, no deadline lynch after D1 only hammer or universal loss

Votals: Prims - Helios, MancerNecro, Aleph Mancer or Helios - Prims We're 11 people alive so we need 6 to hammer

I know and I hate to admit this but I basically expect Mancer to be bad and Helios better And Boron to be mad This proves how shit I am I wasn't even lying with my retarded night actions but I just have to learn from this

Aw should've gone with Mancer first Helios if you hadn't kept blowing me off or considered Mancer were lying I might've listened to you but you played so crap I really thought you were worse Oh well I was wrong too so w/e

*why didnt you mention phone is hard

You and Mancer convinced me early on that Boron could not be scum if any of you were, and had your arguments been better, or you'd answer her defenses convincingly, I might've considered it. But I found your arguments poor, found wrong statements and suspected and voted you. You've mainly been brushing me off saying I'm her scumbuddy. How have I been more scummy than you? I've been playing off logic, reasoning and inconsistencies the whole phase while you've been playing off emotion saying "lol ur scum". Now you're acting annoyed because you've "more important stuff to do than a silly internet game". I admit reading people is not my strong point but I've confidence in my ability to reason logically. When you've been this bad this phase, your earlier phases mean a lot less since it mainly means you've managed stay alive. It is exactly the gap in playing ability that bothers me. And didn't you mention that you gained roles when er were fullclaiming?

I wouldn't mind lynching Boron so bad if I hadn't been convinced you only one of you could be scum and that it's you. I only want to lynch Mancer and you but I mention others because ignoring all possibilities in mylo is bad and definitely not protown. I would actually argue that Elieson has benefitted from being silenced since he can't join this argument which isn't making any of us look more obvtown. Still, I think you and Mancer is the team, the rest to be town. You're not cleared in anyones eyes as long as Mancer isn't cleared either, which he's not. The only way you don't benefit from arguing with us is if your arguments are weaker than ours, making you look bad.

Prims I'd gladly let you live for the entertainment value you bring to this game but alas my desire to win is slightly stronger

askdjaslfkj why does everyone want to modkill themselves so badly if this proves Elieson is scum then dammit Helios I've already said that I didn't find you scummy until this phase If you'd just try to meet my points with reasonable logic earlier I might've still believed you were but you've never even considered Elieson or SB could have been in league with someone I've already said neither me or Boron is obvtown in any way it's just you and Mancer are playing a lot worse than we are by completely disregarding us, and if you're scum I really really don't think Boron is too