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FUCK Lyn. That's what's bringing sexy back.

Call it insulting the Americans when they pull a FE9.

I liked Mystic Quest. That makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

If you could actually train Meg and Fiona, but c'mon...

Because IS likes to troll.

Alts will get you banned, Drew.

Ah, smart of you to do a quick run through of the game first. The other patch didn't do that and the game was unplayable (freeze at C12) as a result. I'm very much looking forward to this as a time-waster until FE3DS. Good luck!

Why would you even do the transfer in the first place, then, just to make well over half the cast non existant (and at times youll prolly need them) There are times (and they're quite frequent) when applying realism to a video game for the sole purpose of doing so is a terrible idea.

Its not like blazing through PoR on easy is hard.

What you keep not getting is that it's worse if i field Lyre for one chapter to shove bot, because shoving is never useful whereas healing is. Seriously, why the holy hell would I kick Kyza out of the army who's better overall just so Lyre can act retarded?

Yeah, if you're insane enough to think Healing is on the same level of useless of sucking at everything. Christ, will you stop acting like we don't know this?

You're starting to irritate me. When did I say Oliver>Any healer? Protip: I didn't. I simply said other healers don't >>>>>>>> Oliver the way some mid tier dude like Boyd >>>>>>>>>>>>combat fails. Furthermore, how is survival an issue for Oliver when he's 10 spaces away from the rest of the army? Hell, even further than that with Fortify? Wow, why didn't anybody ever think of this excuse before?! Now her fail is completely justified! Except Oliver is much better at what he does than Lyre is at what she does. Why? Because Oliver is less outclassed. Why? Because being outclassed at healing sucks less than being outclassed at fighting. MUCH less. I FUCKING KNOW, OKAY! I never ONCE said that Oliver>Any other healer!

much less? Do a run on NM, abooze everyone to 20/20, and use statups, and then tell me you're not going to see a lot of green. I know, it's stupid to actually prove anything, but people do it in PoR for transfers, so...

No, I just didn't read that portion of it. Or I just read it and forgot about it. Is me missing one thing really an automatic U DIDNT READ DA POST!!!!oneone?! It's not like I accused you of not reading mine just because I thought you were talking to me.

wtf? the only thing I said was Lyre doesn't stay transformed as long as Kyza.

An untrained unit who's probably actually capable of damage, or taking a hit, or SOMETHING resembling use...

All items and menus are done, if I'm reading the first post correctly? Because that's all I need to play this. Is the patch fully playable? Can I have it as-is, if so?

Again. Who. Cares? Being 30th on the deployment list every chapter for 40 chapters is still awful. Availability is no justification for Lyre's fail. Because they DON'T do it much better. Other healers don't blow at combat like Oliver does. That's the only reason he's lower. If you have a high magic stat, and access to higher level staves, you can heal just fine. If your stats blow and you're a fighter, all you can do is dumbass shoving. Untrained Elincia>Oliver? Well, untrained Rolf>Lyre. I WISH I was joking about that. Yeah? And untrained Boyd can shove, actually DAMAGE things, actually take hits, never untransform, has 1-2 range, has slayers, etc....You're not telling anybody anything they don't already know by saying Elincia>Oliver. Because "failing" at healing just works a fuck of a lot better than failing at combat.

The issue here isn't is Oliver better than a Mid tier, it's is Oliver better than Lyre? And the answer is yes. It's a fair enough tibreaker. Who gives a fuck? I can have Kyza, who doesn't fail at life and isn't a shovebot, so why would I field Lyre who is for all intents and purposes inferior to Kyza? Only because blocking ledges>Lyre, which really says something about her. Lyre became a net negative the second she got deployed over Kyza, under your mindset. One space isn't really far enough to provide protection, when the enemy is going to think "MMM PAPER" if she's just inside their attack range.

Not the issue, for the trillionth time. If I have to use Oliver or Lyre, I'm going to use Oliver, because healing is a lot more useful than shoving. she doesn't hit as well as kyza can she doesn't take hits as well as kyza does she doesn't stay transformed as well as kyza does Shoving does not define a character. I don't think shoving's worth it. At all. Lyre does not have some magical item that allows her to stay transformed all the time. Yeah, and you conveniently missed the part of my post where I said it wasn't much.

Of course there wasn't a password, I've beaten the game like 5 times... Maybe it pulls a DoS and detects a save file on your DS? Iono.

Yeah, and I can use Oliver a LOT more efficiently than I can Lyre. Here's the thing, being outclassed at healing is twenty times better than being outclassed at fighting. Especially when you can't do much better than 1 damage to something. Oliver can use Fortify and Physic just as well as Elincia can. Are you implying Oliver does nothing? Because healing beats the holy hell out of dumbass shoving. Lyre has 7 def and 11 AS untransformed and it's not easy to kill her? UMMMM okay? Btw, there is again the issue of the sacrifice not producing much. If Roshe criticaled a cav and got it to 2 HP before dying, great. If Lyre just put a dent in something, then it really didn't do all that much for me.

No, it doesn't still stand. Oliver's a lot more pratical in Part 4 than Lyre is in part 3. Both units kick out somebody better, but at least Oliver gives you something for doing so. What do I get when I kick out Boyd for Lyre? I get a shovebot. Yeah, now we know why they're several tiers apart? because shoving is so useful And Kyza does that anyway, only he's got a greater chance of not getting killed for it