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Vhaltz

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  1. This post is what I had in my observer QT up to #98. Coaching coaching coaching SB coaching SB coaching coaching This makes up for most of what I've seen being discussed this game, seriously. I'm hesitant to clear SB immediately because I generally can't read him worth crap but there's this huge wagon on him with almost everybody discussing the same thing about him and I don't like it one bit, it reeks of mislynch fodder. I'm specially wary of several people that have commented on SB so far (pretty certain there's at least one scum sitting on SB or throwing dirt on him atm). First is scorri, who has little to no content to their name other than an SB vote built entirely on parroting of earlier reasons for the wagon (writing up a big paragraph on it when just saying "I agree that this is scummy" after quoting the earlier arguments would've made no difference). His scumreads at that point amounted to all three popular targets (SB, Shinori and Venno) which is way too convenient. His only posts afterwards are two token comments that don't seem to go anywhere. Feels like scum coasting by under the radar and parking their vote on a convenient spot. Second is Refa, who was also quick to jump on the wagon and had little to add to the existing case. There's how he brought up an argument against SB defending Vennu and that argument was hypocritical in the sense that there's not much that SB could say about it either. I like him more than Scorri though because I could see that being accidental in itself and coming from town. His post had a few questions and pokes here and there, which looks like he is looking for more information to go on aside from his SB vote, which is cool but could be faked and isn't enough to compensate the convenient wagon hop in my eyes. Leaning slightly scum, I'll attempt to establish priorities at the end of the post. Third is Eury. His only post is a brief reads post, the kind of post that town tends to be happy with and that is useful for scum as appeasement, plus it includes some reads that feel forced and useless null reads that pad it up. Prims already commented on this in a way that implies that Eury probably does this often or something, and I'm completely void of meta on anybody on the site other than SB, BBM and Prims really so idk about that point. Either way, my biggest issue with this post isn't really just that it's a brief reads post with possible appeasement intent, but the way all of the reads are listed. Everything that isn't a null read is worded awkwardly, there's frequent use of the word "weird" in contexts that appear to imply scumminess, which reads like painting people as scummy without having to explain why X or Y they did is scummy. I was almost 100% sure this was scum when he voted Shinori, because he mentioned Shin among the "contentless" towards the end of the post, and voting that over the ones he thought were "weird" in a scummy way was really scummy. Then I noticed that these were two different people. Blegh. Either way I'm pretty sure that at the time Shinori was the second major wagon after SB*, so the vote is still very convenient. Specially considering that there's no sense of priority and added reasoning of why Shinori over the rest (his opinion on Objection amounted to pretty much the same, so why Shinori over him specifically?). *(correct me if I'm wrong, I'm used to having votecounts instead of having to manually track votes) Fourth is BBM. I liked Kay's vote on BBM early on in the day because I thought it was voting him for parking on Shinori. BBM never really commented anything on Shinori's response and how it affected his vote, and he continued to stick around making side mentions of stuff in the thread ED1 without moving his vote (I recall at least one ED1 post that was pretty fluffed up). His #77 made me feel a little better about him because the explanation of his train of thought felt genuine... except I looked back after reading #90 and noticed it could be genuine and still come from scum, really. His #90 irks me the most because it feels entirely pointless. Why does it matter which of the two of Venno/Kay SB voted as long as he thought there was scum to scum coaching going on? There's also how SB specified an additional reason to vote Venno over Kay (second post in the game by Venno with an empty unvote which coooould be seen as appeasement [i thought it was null but I could see an ED1 read coming from there]). This whole post feels like an intentional misrepresentation to make SB look worse than he already does. Priorities would go something like Scorri > Eury/BBM > Refa >> rest. Townie list includes SB for reeking of mislynch fodder and Kay. The reason why Kay is in here is because I also thought Poly's post where he voted Kay was pretty oddly/poorly worded for what he appeared to mean, and I could see a townie being misguided onto an OMGUS vote because of that, I feel like scum would be more likely to focus on arguing against Poly's points while their vote is off somewhere else. Continued in next post for readability
  2. Btw can somebody do a regular votecount with which players are voting for whom? I'd do it myself but I'm kind of pressed for time
  3. Just passing by to let you guys know that being in a shitty timezone in relation to Eclipse's means I messaged for sub in when I woke up this morning and didn't get to know whether I'd actually play until just now when it's almost dinner time. Have to finish catching up on the thread and write up stuff, expect a post within the next 5 hours or so, currently kind of tired since I just finished classes but hopefully I won't take that long.
  4. Don't think so, she has an exam on Wednesday, plus I already told her that hydras aren't a common thing here. I guess I can go on the sub list if signups are full in 15 hours, yeah.
  5. In +1GMT, so that's in around 15-ish hours. Considering how fast the signups have filled up I'm not sure if there'll be a slot left by then, but I don't really want to commit to a game if I'm not sure I'll have the time.
  6. Tempted to join, I'll confirm tomorrow if the signups aren't full by then.
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