6734 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214428 A tier list is an ordered list of the characters based on their competitive value in the current metagame. It basically shows which characters are currently doing well in tournaments. Note that player skill is more important than character choice and match ups can overcome tier differences, but at an equal player level a bottom tier character will usually have a very tough time against a top tier character. This list will probably change over time, as Brawl is still relatively young and the Melee tiers were debated until the very end. So don’t give up on your character just yet, maybe you’re the one to make a difference! The list was created by the SBR-B after much heated discussion. For the votes, we had members place the characters in groups from 1 to 15 (15 being the highest) and took the average score for each character. The split was decided by looking at the gaps. As the person supervising it, I’d like to thank all SBR-B members who contributed. SS Tier Meta Knight 15.00 S Tier Snake 13.91 A Tier Falco 13.03 King Dedede 12.94 Mr. Game & Watch 12.50 Marth 12.09 Diddy Kong 11.94 B Tier Wario 11.47 R.O.B. 11.38 Lucario 10.94 Olimar 10.94 C Tier Pikachu 10.34 Kirby 10.16 Donkey Kong 10.06 Ice Climbers 9.59 D Tier Zero Suit Samus 8.88 Toon Link 8.47 Pit 8.44 Peach 8.16 Wolf 7.91 E Tier Luigi 7.41 Zelda 7.03 Bowser 6.91 Fox 6.66 Sheik 6.44 Ike 5.91 F Tier Mario 4.56 Lucas 4.50 Ness 4.50 Samus 4.41 Sonic 4.16 Pokémon Trainer 3.94 Yoshi 3.66 G Tier Link 2.28 Jigglypuff 2.03 Ganondorf 1.88 Captain Falcon 1.63 So yeah....Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I use 5 characters from D rank and lower. I use 2 from C to A. Needless to say, I never cared for tierlists. I'm not gonna go pro, so I get good with the characters I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Fox 6.66 1. You didn't have to tell us all about tier lists. We already know what they are. 2. Good luck finding someone here who doesn't already go to smash boards that cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 R.O.B. and Wario are lower than Diddy Kong and Marth? I'm surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 1. You didn't have to tell us all about tier lists. We already know what they are.This forum thread is a copy paste of the Smash Boards thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214428 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 WTF I got flamed for posting an early version of this!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 WTF I got flamed for posting an early version of this!!!! That was when many people cringed at the thought of tiers here. It was a bit saddening, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 This forum thread is a copy paste of the Smash Boards thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214428 And they know what tiers are too. WTF I got flamed for posting an early version of this!!!! That was when many people cringed at the thought of tiers here. It was a bit saddening, really. Nah, I'm pretty sure it's because it was Doom who posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 "Official" and "tier list" generally shouldn't be put together in the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) And they know what tiers are too.Smash Boards is full of newbs and scrubs. No, they do not know what tiers are, and in the event somebody comes across this for the first time, they'll be able to learn what a tier list is.An intro like that is necessary anyway, to prevent flame wars over the most stupid things from happening. So stop whining about people putting that in their posts. It's not directed at you, so you have no reason to care at all. "Official" and "tier list" generally shouldn't be put together in the same sentence.Smash Backroom is the only place where official tier lists are made. Edited January 6, 2009 by FE3 Player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Smash Backroom is the only place where official tier lists are made. But technically, the only way they could be official is if the game's creator made the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Which the creator doesn't make. SBR is as official as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonez Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Metaknight and Snake have their own tiers... Hmm... gg Barwl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 This thing is undoubtedly going to change. Just, y'know, as a reminder to anybody who cares (lolnobody). Jigglypuff for above Link tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Which the creator doesn't make. SBR is as official as it gets. Just because the official one doesn't exist doesn't make fan-made tier lists, independent of who or how many people made it, any more official than they were in the first place. Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 This thing is undoubtedly going to change. Just, y'know, as a reminder to anybody who cares (lolnobody).Obviously, but not without a bunch of debate first, of course.Just because the official one doesn't exist doesn't make fan-made tier lists, independent of who or how many people made it, any more official than they were in the first place.Alright, but there needs to be a single tier list to be debated on, not a bunch of individual made ones that lack consistency. This is official as far as the tournament scene is concerned, not as far as people who want to nitpick are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hika it's the official one, elected people make it up and they know what their talking about Honestly I do think Ike should be bumped down, he is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Neat, all the people I usually use are up there! (unfortunately, I'm probably very rusty at the game by now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hika it's the official one, elected people make it up and they know what their talking aboutHonestly I do think Ike should be bumped down, he is terrible. Alright. I was gonna shut up because of what FE3 player said. But you clearly don't know the definition of official Doom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krevin Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) If you merge SS tier with S tier, then I have a main and an alt for each tier, just like in Melee and 64 SS Tier/S TierMain: MetaKnight Alt: Snake A Tier Main: Falco Alt: Marth B Tier Main: ROB Alt: Lucario C Tier Main: Ice Climbers Alt: DK D Tier Main: Toon Link Alt: Peach E Tier Main: WEEEEGEEEEE Alt: Fox F Tier Main: Yoshi Alt: Lucas G Tier Main: Jiggs Alt: Craptian Falcon :D EDIT: As for the tier list its self, I disagree with Lucas being so low, Yoshi being so high, and Pokemon Trainer still being considered one character. Charizard would be G Tier, Ivysaur and Squirtle would each probably be in D and E tier, respectively. Edited January 6, 2009 by Krevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Lucas and Ness are actually really good. they shouldn't be that low, the only reason theyt might be all the way down there it's because his recovery is hard to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 SS TierMeta Knight 15.00 S Tier Snake 13.91 A Tier Falco 13.03 King Dedede 12.94 Mr. Game & Watch 12.50 Marth 12.09 Diddy Kong 11.94 B Tier Wario 11.47 R.O.B. 11.38 Lucario 10.94 Olimar 10.94 C Tier Pikachu 10.34 Kirby 10.16 Donkey Kong 10.06 Ice Climbers 9.59 D Tier Zero Suit Samus 8.88 Toon Link 8.47 Pit 8.44 Peach 8.16 Wolf 7.91 E Tier Luigi 7.41 Zelda 7.03 Bowser 6.91 Fox 6.66 Sheik 6.44 Ike 5.91 F Tier Mario 4.56 Lucas 4.50 Ness 4.50 Samus 4.41 Sonic 4.16 Pokémon Trainer 3.94 Yoshi 3.66 G Tier Link 2.28 Jigglypuff 2.03 Ganondorf 1.88 Captain Falcon 1.63 So yeah....Comments? Kirby in C tier under Pikachu... Doesn't sound right at all. Though the first 10 characters definitely do belong there as the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Lucas and Ness are actually really good. they shouldn't be that low, the only reason theyt might be all the way down there it's because his recovery is hard to use. Noooooo there just not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay for underpowered wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Noooooo there just not good They have pretty good killing moves (Ness b and Lucas Up smash for example) They are fairly quick Their throws can kill at about 120% if I'm not mistaken And they can rack up damage really quick The only problem thir recovery is hard to control (specially if you're in the litte circle ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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