noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I really couldn't care less about people being gay or not, but I am a Christian and i just want to point this out about for the people saying the bible says nothing about loving/hating gay people. But obviously this has no effect on non Christians. Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Deuteronomy 23:17, "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel." *by lie it means have sex* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I have to say PLEASE do your research. Its has been very recent Scientist have bothered to investigate why some people prefer the same sex. What your claiming is a THEORY! The evidence is correct BUT put that evidence into the context of the hypothesis your stating, it does not have SIGNIFICANT difference to officaly say that Homosexuality is caused by genetics. Wait, if it was through genetics, how would it get passed, unless a girl raped a dude. (how would that even work?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) I've heard of scenarios where a straight guy was hanging around with homosexual friends. The homosexual guys influenced him into "experimenting" and he liked it. Then he too turned gay. This happened to someone I personally know. lol EDIT: Okay, just to add a little sustenence to this post, to quote a friend: "Spoilers, he was already gay." Edited January 18, 2009 by Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Wait, if it was through genetics, how would it get passed, unless a girl raped a dude. (how would that even work?) I never said it was based on genetics. Some members keep on saying that genetic determines your sexuality. I disgaree with this. I don't believe homosexuality is determined through genetics. It hasn't been proven. Edited January 18, 2009 by Judge Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Wait, if it was through genetics, how would it get passed, unless a girl raped a dude. (how would that even work?) exactly, this is what confuses me in this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 lolEDIT: Okay, just to add a little sustenence to this post, to quote a friend: "Spoilers, he was already gay." Well the real question is: are preferences in general determined through genetics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Well the real question is: are preferences in general determined through genetics? That I can answer with almost an assured "no." It most likely comes down to internal chemistry. The idea of a "gay gene" is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I've heard of scenarios where a straight guy was hanging around with homosexual friends. The homosexual guys influenced him into "experimenting" and he liked it. Then he too turned gay. This happened to someone I personally know. Even if that's true, you're assuming that ALL gays are like that. Which is exactly how things like racism start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I find it funny that someone is still saying homosexuality is a choice here after multiple homosexuals said they did not choose it. In this very topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I dont care about it. Im friends with 3 homosexuals. Im hetero and im not like "UR GAY GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY SIGHT" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I really couldn't care less about people being gay or not, but I am a Christian and i just want to point this out about for the people saying the bible says nothing about loving/hating gay people. But obviously this has no effect on non Christians. Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Deuteronomy 23:17, "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel." *by lie it means have sex* The Bible also accepts rape and incest. Feel free to go rape people now. Also, have sex with your sister. It's ok, God doesn't have a problem with it. What's stopping you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The Bible also accepts rape and incest. Feel free to go rape people now. Also, have sex with your sister. It's ok, God doesn't have a problem with it. What's stopping you? O_O I don't think the bible allows that. Probably misinterpreted the bible text. BACK TO THE TOPIC! I don't think it should concern people what cause of their sexuality too much...if they like someone of the same gender then its fine and I don't think they should try to worry too much why they are like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) The Bible also accepts rape and incest. Feel free to go rape people now. Also, have sex with your sister. It's ok, God doesn't have a problem with it. What's stopping you? hmmm, i don't quite remember that part. as my math teacher says, Prove it. Edit; Also the bible is not a rule book, yes God's laws are rules, but the rest of the book is stories and such, just because it has it in it does not mean it supports this. Christian or not, Jesus and others are historical figures, not made up. Edited January 18, 2009 by Noremac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The Bible also accepts rape and incest. Feel free to go rape people now. Also, have sex with your sister. It's ok, God doesn't have a problem with it. What's stopping you? FUCK YES! But the bible/=/ the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Even if that's true, you're assuming that ALL gays are like that. Which is exactly how things like racism start. Sorrry about that. I find it funny that someone is still saying homosexuality is a choice here after multiple homosexuals said they did not choose it.In this very topic. I think reading 4 pages of a topic is a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 O_OI don't think the bible allows that. Probably misinterpreted the bible text. Ha. Ha, ha, ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Ha. Ha, ha, ha. You have something to say? If not, don't post anything at all. Edited January 18, 2009 by Judge Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Old Testament 22:28-29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Old Testament 22:28-29 ummm yeah, old testament is what a group of chapters is called, not a chapter itself. GENESIS EXODUS LEVITICUS NUMBERS DEUTERONOMY JOSHUA JUDGES RUTH 1 SAMUEL 2 SAMUEL 1 KINGS 2 KINGS 1 CHRONICLES 2 CHRONICLES EZRA NEHEMIAH ESTHER JOB PSALMS PROVERBS ECCLESIASTES SONG OF SOLOMON ISAIAH JEREMIAH LAMENTATIONS EZEKIEL DANIEL HOSEA JOEL AMOS OBADIAH JONAH MICAH NAHUM HABAKKUK ZEPHANIAH HAGGAI ZECHARIAH MALACHI pick one :D Old Testament 22:28-29 I think you mean Deuteronomy 22:28-29 which is If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NIV This is not at all supporting rape, it is saying if the deed is done you must accept keep her as your wife. edited in my response as to not double post Edited January 18, 2009 by Noremac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus The Dark Knight Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I don't like it, but I honestly don't have a problem if someone is, it's their life not mine, and if it makes them happy, yet doesn't effect me, I see no reason to complain or dislike them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I don't know anything of substance about science as it relates to homosexuality so I'll just admit gay people are mostly another minority group to me, even with a gay brother. I would more or less be lying if I said I think I view them without any prejudice whatsoever, so I won't, but I hold no hate towards them and support affording them the same rights as any heterosexual. Maybe my little prejudices will disappear as I mature but for now I reserve the privilege to say "That's gay" when I get my ass beat in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm going to restate some things, since apparently some people aren't quite registering what I'm saying: Homosexuality is not a choice, nor is it simply a personal preference. It is an orientation in the same manner heterosexuality is an orientation, and it is almost assuredly something people are born into. People cannot be influenced into becoming gay. Gay people are not automatically prone to acting feminine or butch, respectively, based off their orientation. And just to emphasize: Being gay has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with personal preference, and it is provably biological. The misconceptions that are ocurring here are staggering. Staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm going to restate some things, since apparently some people aren't quite registering what I'm saying:Homosexuality is not a choice, nor is it simply a personal preference. It is an orientation in the same manner heterosexuality is an orientation, and it is almost assuredly something people are born into. People cannot be influenced into becoming gay. Gay people are not automatically prone to acting feminine or butch, respectively, based off their orientation. And just to emphasize: Being gay has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with personal preference, and it is provably biological. The misconceptions that are ocurring here are staggering. Staggering. no fags are sinners because they chose to be fags and ur a retard too because ur cienfic fakt iz mad bi fags and wut god sez iz tru In all seriousness now, I can't believe that someone would say that science is wrong and ask for ACTUAL proof, when they believe that a thousand something year old book is true stories about God or whatever and use that as proof for their case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wist Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 This thread is intended to involve discussion regarding individuals' perspective on homosexuality. While religion clearly plays a role in many peoples positions, try to ensure posts don't debate religious points at the cost of relations to the matter at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSu Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hika has a valid point :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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