TheEnd Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 You say personal experiance doesn't matter, but you say Lugh is great.Lugh is called so great and over rated probably because someone had a great experiance with him and called him amazing. "Someone?" More like "everyone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 You say personal experiance doesn't matter, but you say Lugh is great.Lugh is called so great and over rated probably because someone had a great experiance with him and called him amazing. Sigh, man. Sigh. Lugh is called good because he comes early and he has decent stats, compared to Lilina. Look here, since you care so much about stats. http://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=lilina&game=6 Now look here. http://fea.fewiki.net/fea.php?character=lugh&game=6 Do you get it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 I see your point but Lillina will always be in my team and will always be my favorite mage in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Ostrich Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 You say personal experiance doesn't matter, but you say Lugh is great.Lugh is called so great and over rated probably because someone had a great experiance with him and called him amazing. No. Have you read all of the replies? Have you looked at the numbers used? People are saying Lugh is good because of those numbers. Claiming PE for Lugh with all of the evidence in front of your face is willfull ignorance. I've had bad Lughs, really good Oujays and (semi) fast Garrets, but you woudln't see me defending the overall worth of a character based on that, because on average Oujay is still going to be viciously outclassed by others and Garret's still never going to double anything ever. I see your point but Lillina will always be in my team and will always be my favorite mage in the game. Then do so. I use bad people all of the time too. There are also several good people I never use (Percival, Fir) simply because I do not like them. This thread isn't about who you should use. It's about who is the superior choice on a team. Lugh isn't perfect but he is a better choice than Lilina. In fact, he's a much better choice than Lilina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'm gonna scroll abuse Marty in the next arena I get to (FE5). When I'm done, he should turn out good (or at least passable). I plan on using him. The thing is, Marty is a horrible unit, and I won't deny it. I'll prop him up the best I can to make him as good as I can, but I won't call him good with all the abuse I'll have to put into him to get him there. I think this has some relevance to this conversation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 This thread isn't about who you should use. It's about who is the superior choice on a team. Lillina, What do you think of her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) However, opinions without a solid foundation aren't reliable while numbers are. Lilina, even though she may be good personality and looks wise, is a failure. Some people need to be convinced. Edited February 5, 2009 by Alvis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hector's greatness is not genetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hector's greatness is not genetic. Blame his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Blame Lilina's upbringing.Fixed.Or more to the point, the way Hector brought Lilina up. Edited February 5, 2009 by Little Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Ostrich Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'm gonna scroll abuse Marty in the next arena I get to (FE5). When I'm done, he should turn out good (or at least passable). I plan on using him.The thing is, Marty is a horrible unit, and I won't deny it. I'll prop him up the best I can to make him as good as I can, but I won't call him good with all the abuse I'll have to put into him to get him there. I think this has some relevance to this conversation... My Marty currently has 8 speed and 5 skill at level 13. I have him carry around the Baldo, Sety, Odo, Fala, and Hezul scroll every chapter he's fielded. I cannot wait for his promo gains. Lillina, What do you think of her? Bad wording on my part. It is what the discussion is currently about, rather than the thread's perceived intent. But this sorta debate always happens when Lilina is brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Bad wording on my part. It is what the discussion is currently about, rather than the thread's perceived intent. But this sorta debate always happens when Lilina is brought up. It's quite amusing how you were telling the thread's creator what this thread is about, though. Also, about the Lugh x Lilina thing: idort. I use both. Lilina is the poor cousin, though, especially due to her low skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 It's quite amusing how you were telling the thread's creator what this thread is about, though.Also, about the Lugh x Lilina thing: idort. I use both. Lilina is the poor cousin, though, especially due to her low skill. This is about your opinion on Lillina. I use both as well exept I say Lillina is the better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I'm just gonna bring this up now, since I'm not going to wade through the topic to see if it already has. Lillina, when she joins, basically requires you to shove a feeding tube down her throut to make her usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 This is about your opinion on Lillina.I use both as well exept I say Lillina is the better one. By your personal experience. I already said I've had a better Lilina than I did a Lugh. But even I know that that means jack squat. The numbers mean Lugh is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I'm just gonna bring this up now, since I'm not going to wade through the topic to see if it already has.Lillina, when she joins, basically requires you to shove a feeding tube down her throut to make her usable. Or you can use the arena <3. Although I know most people don't like using that, just for the "challenge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 In HM you have a pretty flexible tactics rank to use the Arena with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I had that somewhere in my mind, but it never appeared in there :J Anyways, in a non-ranked run, then Lillina would be good if the RNG likes you more than Lugh and Hugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reganis Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 every time ive used lilina shes turned out great, but u pretty much hav to spam her cos u get her at such a low level. hughs better on hard mode cos he gets hard mode bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hugh loses his HM bonuses the moment he joins. But even those wouldn't save him from being underpowered, since they're just that, "boosts to his stats". They don't save Zeis from being crappy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjackal Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I know Lou is better, but I just can't STAND using him. I have horrid luck with him, he never grows ANY magic for me. Even with supports and Elfire, he just tickles people and it pisses me off. Lillina however I'm lucky with because she grows plenty of speed. Gonzales and Cecilia give her defense she needs with a nice offense boost, given my lucky speed with her and her naturally amazing luck, and she annihilates. Lou might be more useful, but Lillina I find MUCH more satisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) I know Lou is better, but I just can't STAND using him. I have horrid luck with him, he never grows ANY magic for me. Even with supports and Elfire, he just tickles people and it pisses me off.Lillina however I'm lucky with because she grows plenty of speed. Gonzales and Cecilia give her defense she needs with a nice offense boost, given my lucky speed with her and her naturally amazing luck, and she annihilates. Lou might be more useful, but Lillina I find MUCH more satisfactory. Too bad Cecilia isn't really the best unit to be using. Gonzales, I agree with, but more so for Gonzales, becuase he NEEDS a Fire Support (Too bad he isn't Fire affinity, himself.) to get more criticals in. Also, you might just be un-lucky. In my Sacred Stones runthrough, Eirika maxxed out Strength. In my brother's, she got 17 at level 20 Edited February 6, 2009 by Nestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reganis Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Hugh loses his HM bonuses the moment he joins. But even those wouldn't save him from being underpowered, since they're just that, "boosts to his stats". They don't save Zeis from being crappy either. Zeiss? Crappy? bite your tongue heathen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Zeis starts with maxed str and not enough speed to double anything. I actually think he's average or maybe slightly better, but at his join time he's outclassed by a whole lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Swap Zeis's jointime with Miredy and Zeis would very possibly be #1 on the list. I suppose his rapid EXP gain rate benefits him somewhat, though. He's kinda like Catria in that respect. Only it's a lot harder to get him to gain EXP since the chapter design isn't totally biased in his favor >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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