General Spoon Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 So, of course, piracy is not theft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Changed by VASM :( Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Truth Spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Wrong. Stealing is taking anything without permisson, copying has little to do with it. *goes and looks for roms* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Wrong.Stealing is taking anything without permisson, copying has little to do with it. *goes and looks for roms* But it's not "taking". :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Would you go into a music store with a special laptop and rip data from CDs when the clerk's too busy looking at nudey mags and THEN put it back and leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnell Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Piracy is stealing, because you are taking something from someone and depriving the owner of some goods (money in this case). If you take it, you're not going to buy it. And don't make lame excuses about how you were not going to buy it anyway, it IS stealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Would you go into a music store with a special laptop and rip data from CDs when the clerk's too busy looking at nudey mags and THEN put it back and leave? Firstly, that's depriving the STORE, and secondly, as long as they lose nothing, of course I would! Piracy is stealing, because you are taking something from someone and depriving the owner of some goods (money in this case). If you take it, you're not going to buy it. And don't make lame excuses about how you were not going to buy it anyway, it IS stealing. Right... Now, first, a couple things; First of all, is the "I wasn't going to buy it anyway". There are seriously things I pirate that I would NEVER think of buying. They lose nothing from that. Now, how about the things I pirate and buy? I've given them money for that! Or how about the things I'm unsure on? What if there's an album that could be total crap? If I pirate it, I can see if its good or not. Not to mention the fact that artists themselves make next to no money from the sale of CDs, so Piracy is in most of their best interests. I can make more arguments for other things too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) I can still afford to pay for school and rent AND go out with friends because of piracy : D Not having to pay for video games (cept 360 <_< ) or music comes in handy. [typical pirate] besides im just one person, im not hurting anything! [typical pirate] Cue:"But do you know how many people think the same thing!?" Edited February 7, 2009 by Nanaya Shiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Awesome, it's still illegal. And it is theft when a third party gets its hands on the copy for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemund Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 This topic was initially a joke... don't know why you all went serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 This topic was initially a joke... don't know why you all went serious. Possibly because joke topics don't fucking belong in general discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemund Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Possibly because joke topics don't fucking belong in general discussion. LOL, guess that's right. I just looked to see there is no other joke thread in this sub-forum. I didn't even realize that before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Awesome, it's still illegal.And it is theft when a third party gets its hands on the copy for free. :D BUT I WANNA WANNA WANNA HAVE FREE STUFF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deity Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Piracy is illegal, period. ((nOw where is Capn Sean Storm?)) Edited February 7, 2009 by Löki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Piracy is illegal, period. ((nOw where is Capn Sean Storm?)) That's clear. I think the question is over whether or not it SHOULD be. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deity Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 That's clear. I think the question is over whether or not it SHOULD be. :D It shouldn't, inmyopinion. There are too many poor people in this world who only dream of getting their hands on something original that they cannot afford. Thus they resort to buying pirated stuff. XD I did that long time ago, buy something that was not original, that is. It was cheap. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemund Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) It shouldn't, inmyopinion. There are too many poor people in this world who only dream of getting their hands on something original that they cannot afford. Thus they resort to buying pirated stuff. XD I did that long time ago, buy something that was not original, that is. It was cheap. ^^ Things cost money to cover developement costs. If it isn't sold/developed any more though, I think it ought to be fair game. But as always, THIEVERY IS WRONG. Don't do it, ever. Edited February 7, 2009 by Bohemund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I consider Piracy like Plagiarism. And yes, Plagiarism is stealing in a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) I consider Piracy like Plagiarism. And yes, Plagiarism is stealing in a way. Except you never claim the thing as your own with Piracy... Edited February 7, 2009 by Taylor Swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 You guys realize, that no matter what reasoning, logic, or analogies you guys make, it's still going to be illegal, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnell Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Piracy is illegal because if you pirate it, you're much less likely to buy it. Imagine how many not-so-great games or songs you would have bought if you hadn't pirated them first. The company loses a little money on all of them. Now multiply that by several million people who pirate. But like Bohemund said, I don't think that developers should have as much power to punish you if that game/CD isn't made any more. Then the only person you're cheating money out of then is Ebay. :D But it still should be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Rei Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 It's stealing in another form. You see, one fo the reasons SNK went barnkrupt was becase of piracy. You copy the product, but you sell it for less money than the official product, andthe company doesn't profit with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Awesome, it's still illegal. If you really want to express your opinion, at least try and reword it or expound a little. There's little point in simply using another member's post for your own post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Like it's been said, piracy=money deprivation. Sure, it's not that bad if you do it to something that's been around for a pretty long time, and isn't still being sold in common stores. It's still illegal, although the "unless you go up to a policeman and tell him about it, you're not likely to get caught" type of illegal. Sure, I did this to Fire Emblems 4 and 5, but I wouldn't think even a policeman would care about a game that's not being still sold (I think) in it's own country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
California Mountain Snake Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) In a moral argument, justifying something as wrong simply because it is illegal holds quite thin. There are laws in certain states in the US which prohibit same-sex marriages, sodomy, and in some counties even the right to live there if you are gay. Does that mean that people from these areas should accept homosexuality as immoral and wrong, just because it is illegal? Public protest to a law through its willing abandonment is one form of social change, and one which has been used many times successfully within the United States. There are arguments out there for why piracy is wrong, but saying "because it's illegal" isn't one. Edited February 7, 2009 by Black Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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