Liz Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 The title says it all. even though they kinda did this with Mist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Me too... But Nanna really was horrible in FE4 and Ethlin wasn't that great, either. ;-; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 And Janne? Probably worse than Nanna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 The only reason they aren't that great combat wise is because the base strength is pretty awful. In a non-FE4 setting, they would likely be more viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Funny how Eithlin was good at neither combat nor using staffs. (Note: "staves" refers to the musical notational terms. "Staffs" refers to the plural of a the wooden stick-thing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) Female paladins are quite ugly. I prefer Valkyries (be it GBA-style or Mist). The only reason they aren't that great combat wise is because the base strength is pretty awful. In a non-FE4 setting, they would likely be more viable. Also, locked to C-rank - which means no recover, reblow, rest or status staves, except for Nanna if you do Lachesis x Claude (which means giving up on her and Delmud's offensive usefulness - I'm totally doing it sometime). And Janne? Probably worse than Nanna. Change "probably" to "certainly". (Note: "staves" refers to the musical notational terms. "Staffs" refers to the plural of a the wooden stick-thing.) Dictionary.com says that both work Edited February 11, 2009 by Anborn Arsar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Also, locked to C-rankTrue for FE4, definitely, though if they re-adopt Troubador -> Paladins, they will just have to work for their staff levels and won't be locked to E forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 True for FE4, definitely, though if they re-adopt Troubador -> Paladins, they will just have to work for their staff levels and won't be locked to E forever. Well, FE5/9/10 are like that (if you consider Mist). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 [Troub --> (sword-wielding) Valkyrie] > [Troub --> (staff-wielding) Paladin] Isadora with staves? No thanks. I mean, that would be awesome, but it's not fitting. (Note: "staves" refers to the musical notational terms. "Staffs" refers to the plural of a the wooden stick-thing.) Noun staff (countable and uncountable; plural staffs or staves) 1. (plural: staffs or staves) a long, straight stick, especially one used to assist in walking. 2. (plural: staves) (music) A series of horizontal lines on which musical notes are written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Wozzeck Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 As much as I love FE4, I kind of have to disagree with the whole female paladin thing; I personally prefer the GBA Valkries to the female Paladin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Female Paladins will still exist even if Valkyries are a separate class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I'm happy with Mist, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I'm happy with Mist, really.I felt that FE9 did a good job with classes overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I felt that FE9 did a good job with classes overall. Yeah, but the battle animation needs to be better. Pretty much the only bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf_UK Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 If we do that Male Paladins will insist of being able to use low-level white magic staves. You know equal opportunities and all that... It could really throw off the two wepaons things Paladins are going for these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 actually, i don't want female paladins to be like FE4 female paladins. i just want the whole FE4 troubadour--> paladin i guess you could call it valkyrie now class to remain, but separate from the cavalier--> paladin. as in using swords and staffs, then getting lances. kinda like Mist, only that she can use swords before promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 kinda like Mist, only that she can use swords before promotion. You'll like Radiant Dawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 You'll like Radiant Dawn. i love it, actually. and mist is always on my endgame! :P i just don't want my Valks to be given magic as their weapon again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Mist is indeed a great character. Not statistically, but in everything else. Light magic Mist could be hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 i just don't want my Valks to be given magic as their weapon again. Say what? You don't want them to be good again? Okay, not saying Mist was bad (I always use her) but she would have been better with tomes over Swords, in PoR at least, probably RD as well. And Ethlin was really good for me....Nanna was okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Say what? You don't want them to be good again?Okay, not saying Mist was bad (I always use her) but she would have been better with tomes over Swords, in PoR at least, probably RD as well. And Ethlin was really good for me....Nanna was okay. its more that i prefer to have a unit that uses BOTH the strength and magic stat, makes them more unique and stuff. with tomes, they're just mages who are mounted. and they could always make magic weapons available for people like her. that actually use the magic stat. at least, that's how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't see why female Paladins/Valkyries/Whatever are automatically inferior because of swords. Just give them higher strength growth so they can deal out decent damage with non-magic swords and low-ish magic growth so they heal less than unmounted staff-users. Seems fairly balanced to me. =\ Minor Nitpick: Troubadours should have their name changed to Shieldmaiden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) I don't see why female Paladins/Valkyries/Whatever are automatically inferior because of swords. Just give them higher strength growth so they can deal out decent damage with non-magic swords and low-ish magic growth so they heal less than unmounted staff-users. Seems fairly balanced to me. =\Minor Nitpick: Troubadours should have their name changed to Shieldmaiden. indeed. i feel as if the split strength/magic stats isn't being exploited to the fullest, actually. i mean, if there isn't going to be some way for units to use them both, why bother? that's why i support the Valkyries using swords instead of magic. gives the stat split a bit more of a reason to exist. and i also believe that magic weapons should be more easily available in the games, and that there should be some melee units that have higher magic over strength growth. just to give the magic stat more use for all those classes that normally don't rely on it. and yeah. i've always been bothered with the troubadour name, since the troubadour class is FAR from being one. Edited February 11, 2009 by Persephone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't see why female Paladins/Valkyries/Whatever are automatically inferior because of swords. In FE10, Mist can only cap strength at 25 during third tier, so you can guess why. that's why i support the Valkyries using swords instead of magic. gives the stat split a bit more of a reason to exist. Mist would be so awesome with a magic sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 In FE10, Mist can only cap strength at 25 during third tier, so you can guess why. That's not quite what I meant. What I was trying to say is the concept of having Troubadours, etc. using swords isn't necessarily a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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